After a six-month abstinence, I got tested...

[jon1265]

...for HIV, and it came back negative. Not that I am shocked. I have been very sexually active for over 30 years and have engaged in some risky behaviors in that period (including bareback anal sex). I have been tested numerous times and was always negative. I have had too many to count anonymous sexual encounters, hired many escorts over the years, have had a few fuck buddies here and there, participated in orgies, and was even monogamous during a relationship of many years. I could not even put a number to the number of men I have been with (yes, I'm a whore, darling). I have had crabs and gonorrhea before so it's not as if I am immune to STD's, but never contracted the HIV virus.

 

In the present day I always use a condom when fucking (predominantly top), but NEVER with oral. I also love to swallow cum (my fetish).

 

I guess my discussion question is this: Do you believe that certain people are immune to HIV? I have always believed it, but have no proof. But I am starting to believe I am. That is not to say I am going to suddenly start fucking bareback to test fate. It is mostly due to the STD issue (no Prep for me). I am still going to swallow loads, but feel as if I have escaped the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

 

Whaddya think?

[doitb4ugo]

I think you have been a lot luckier than I have. I am not sure if I have this opinion because I am poz but bragging that you are negative after unsafe behavior seems a bit over the top. JMHO

[thickornotatall]

I think you have been a lot luckier than I have. I am not sure if I have this opinion because I am poz but bragging that you are negative after unsafe behavior seems a bit over the top. JMHO

he's happy!..let it be....

[MsGuy]

A small minority of people of northern European descent have a natural immunity to HIV due to a specific genetic defect that prevents the virus from entering white blood cells. If I remember right, the highest incidence of the mutation conferring the immunity occurs in Swedes (around 4%?) and peters out as you get further from its Scandinavian epicenter.

 

Again speaking from memory, the mutation was first discovered when a NY man, all of whose friends had died of AIDS, started pestering folks to test him out and find out why he had survived. I recall it as taking him several years to find someone who would take him seriously enough to actually test his blood and several rounds of tests before the physician doing the research could bring himself to believe his patient's blood cells were really resistant to the virus.

 

The theory is that this mutation also confers at least partial immunity to some other really nasty virus (which would account for it's presence in the gene pool since it reduces the overall effectiveness of your immune system). Small pox is the current suspect but no one really knows for sure.

 

So maybe you're immune and maybe you're just lucky. Me, I'd go with lucky if I were you.

 

I suppose you could arrange for a genetic test if you wanted to know for sure.

[Rudynate]

It isn't an unusual experience. Someone who has every reason to believe that he is poz finally gets tested, and wonder of wonders, he's HIV free. Unfortunately, the opposite is also commonplace -- someone gets a nasty surprise when he gets his HIV test result. I had the first experience. All of my friends were poz. Most of my friends from that time are long dead. I had every reason to think I would be too, because I had just as much sex as they did. I turned out neg. I have never thought it was anything but luck. I'm grateful for it every day.

[rvwnsd]

Having bareback sex and/or taking cum in your mouth raises the risk of HIV transmission, but it does not guarantee that you will acquire the virus. I see three reasons you did not acquire the virus:

1. The people you had unprotected sex with were HIV negative
   
2. They were HIV positive but had a very low viral load
   
3. They were HIV positive with a detectable viral load but an insufficient quantity of bodily fluid was exchanged to transmit the virus.
   

I won't say it is impossible that you are immune to HIV, but I will say it is improbable.

[+ VeryHappyCustomer]

I started young, and enjoyed a period of carefree condomless fucking before people started getting sick. I only topped. But I gobbled cum in London, Toronto, New York, and San Francisco -- a different guy almost every day. Remember how easy it was? Considering the length of this forum's membership list, I suppose I may have met a few of you... I had a friend who was only oral and about as active as me. He's pos now.

 

When I found out about the genetic test, I asked my doctor. He lectured me about the danger of having a false sense of invulnerability. The mechanism of that genetic variant isn't well understood. It may only confer immunity to some strains of HIV. He ordered the test and I don't have the variant. I may have gotten lucky elsewhere in my genome, or in my choice of partners, or in what I did with them. There are outliers in every population.

 

I don't want to push my luck. I'm always careful now, rarely take a load in my mouth, never fuck without a condom (not even my amazingly loving and broad-minded wife), and get a full set of tests and metabolic panel every three months. We were all surprised by AIDS. There could be another surprise ahead. I worry about my friends who use PREP instead of condoms. I worry about every guy who offers me his ass raw -- recently a common occurrence in Southern California, less so in Phoenix.

 

You can't succeed without taking risks. In business. In relationships. In love. In hiring the angels of mercy who help me keep my life in balance. But I try to avoid known risks when the downside is bigger than the upside. I hate condoms! But, until there's a cure, I won't take that bet.

[Diverdan]

Very wise advice, VeryHappyCustomer... I have lost so many friends to AIDS, some of whom were married and had children and whose wives had no idea of their husband's interest in other men. I can still remember attending those funerals, and it was not much fun. It is never easy to lose a friend in the prime of life, but even more devastating to lose someone who has a family when some precautions could have saved them. I don't like condoms either, but had always used them and am sure that was a major factor in keeping me negative all of these years. We still don't know much about the virus, and know even less about those individuals who seem immune to the virus. Maybe some day there will be a vaccine available, but until then, there is no reason not to play safe.

[+ Charlie]

The likelihood that you are immune to HIV is very small. The likelihood that you have been extremely lucky is very high. Immunity is permanent. Luck can change overnight.

[Rudynate]

Very wise advice, VeryHappyCustomer... I have lost so many friends to AIDS, some of whom were married and had children and whose wives had no idea of their husband's interest in other men. I can still remember attending those funerals, and it was not much fun. It is never easy to lose a friend in the prime of life, but even more devastating to lose someone who has a family when some precautions could have saved them. I don't like condoms either, but had always used them and am sure that was a major factor in keeping me negative all of these years. We still don't know much about the virus, and know even less about those individuals who seem immune to the virus. Maybe some day there will be a vaccine available, but until then, there is no reason not to play safe.

 

I have never believed people who say that they don't know how they got HIV because they "never bottomed." I had a boyfriend who was poz and insisted that he never bottomed. But he bottomed with me. I suppose it's possible that he had never bottomed before he did it with me, but just about anybody who lived through that explosion of drugs, sex and rock and roll in the 70's put his legs in the air from time to time.

[jimboivyo]

You're negative. Good for you. Now learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them

[thickornotatall]

Out of a group of friends from the early to late 1970's I am the only man that has lived through the initial onslaught of AIDS....Very upsetting....My old red phone book had so many crossed out names that I retired it. Too sad to use...I kept it and from time to time remind myself how fortunate I am...Watching my friends deteriorate....and die was enough for me to always have safe sex...Fact is I have NEVER bottomed....I am somewhat old fashioned in thinking about sex at that time and believed every relationship was a forever one....Times have changed and the risky behavior is still here...Do whatever you want...just don't do it with me...I consider every partner to be +POZ...and treat each person as so...He can cum on me...not in me...

[AdamSmith]

Whaddya think?

 

I think you feel the temptation to indulge in magical thinking.

 

A natural urge, but recognize it for what it is.

[+ nycman]

Immunity is permanent.....

 

Until the virus mutates again....

 

Or, the next virus comes along......

 

And those who believe they are "immune"....

 

.....are sitting ducks.

[Rudynate]

Out of a group of friends from the early to late 1970's I am the only man that has lived through the initial onslaught of AIDS....Very upsetting....My old red phone book had so many crossed out names that I retired it. Too sad to use...I kept it and from time to time remind myself how fortunate I am...Watching my friends deteriorate....and die was enough for me to always have safe sex...Fact is I have NEVER bottomed....I am somewhat old fashioned in thinking about sex at that time and believed every relationship was a forever one....Times have changed and the risky behavior is still here...Do whatever you want...just don't do it with me...I consider every partner to be +POZ...and treat each person as so...He can cum on me...not in me...

 

 

I did that not long ago. I have had the same phonebook for 30 years. I leafed through and noticed all those who have "transitioned" as the new-agers like to say. It was a lot.

[Steven_Draker]

difficult to transmit:

HIV transmitted 1 in 900 times couple has unprotected sex

 

"A person infected with HIV will transmit the virus to their partner once in every 900 times they have unprotected sex, say scientists.

 

And the risk significantly increases if the person infected has a higher concentration of the virus in their bloodstream."

 

more: http://bit.ly/yxVhtA

[Todd99]

I'm a total bottom and have always said I would never let I dick in me without a condom. Until recently in a moment of lusty weakness I tried to get that dick without protection...fortunately, he said no and used a condom.

 

I'm also very oral and I like to swallow. I can't stop that behavior. I love it. But I now limit who i do it with. So I guess less likely to get a disease, but still any risk. Am I playing with fire?

[tyro]

I'm a total bottom and have always said I would never let I dick in me without a condom. Until recently in a moment of lusty weakness I tried to get that dick without protection...fortunately, he said no and used a condom.

 

I'm also very oral and I like to swallow. I can't stop that behavior. I love it. But I now limit who i do it with. So I guess less likely to get a disease, but still any risk. Am I playing with fire?

We all are. Welcome to life.

T

[Frequentflier]

...for HIV, and it came back negative. Not that I am shocked. I have been very sexually active for over 30 years and have engaged in some risky behaviors in that period (including bareback anal sex). I have been tested numerous times and was always negative. I have had too many to count anonymous sexual encounters, hired many escorts over the years, have had a few fuck buddies here and there, participated in orgies, and was even monogamous during a relationship of many years. I could not even put a number to the number of men I have been with (yes, I'm a whore, darling). I have had crabs and gonorrhea before so it's not as if I am immune to STD's, but never contracted the HIV virus.

 

In the present day I always use a condom when fucking (predominantly top), but NEVER with oral. I also love to swallow cum (my fetish).

 

I guess my discussion question is this: Do you believe that certain people are immune to HIV? I have always believed it, but have no proof. But I am starting to believe I am. That is not to say I am going to suddenly start fucking bareback to test fate. It is mostly due to the STD issue (no Prep for me). I am still going to swallow loads, but feel as if I have escaped the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

 

Whaddya think?

 

Happy for you that the results were good. Best not to push your luck in the future and might be nice to do something kind or charitable for a stranger as a way to show thanks for good test results after very risky behavior?

[+ WilliamM]

I am still going to swallow loads, but feel as if I have escaped the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

 

Whaddya think?

 

You have been extremely lucky. I think you should be very thankful and forget about being immune to HIV/AIDS.

And almost everyone who has responded has said more or less the same thing...even if in different ways.