Gay Marriage!

[Decatur Guy]

I am thrilled. This whole week and month has been incredible.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

Very awesome news to wake up to in Australia - hopefully this will encourage our politicians to vote Yes for this much needed step forward for humanity. We owe a debt of deep gratitude to those who lobbied, protested etc on our behalf. Thank you

[+ purplekow]

This is a beautiful day in our country and I am glad I now have the option to get married in my own state if I ever decide to do so!

I met a man today who was divorce from a woman, divorced from a man. True marital equality. (As an aside, he was also widowed from a man and he was still quite a young man. ) Some people probably make the sane decision when they are once and forever single.

[uwsman2]

Kennedy's opinion echoes his earlier opinions striking down DOMA and the Texas sodomy law by avoiding mentioning the standard of review. He says the right to marry is a fundamental right, that it includes same-sex couples, but doesn't even take the next step of explicitly saying that this means strict scrutiny, so gays win because the states failed to present a compelling interest that requires excluding gays from marriage. Same deal with his equal protection discussion: he says that due process and equal protection are interdependent, and because the case involves a fundamental right, gays win. In other words, if his opinion were an answer to a law school Constitutional Law exam, he would probably get a C at the most for failing to mention key doctrinal terms, especially the standard of review, and explain how they apply. But I (a law school professor) assign him an A+ for effort and the correct result.

[+ WmClarke]

I must say, I did not expect to see Little Rock, Arkansas in this list.

 

http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2015/06/27/more-dozen-landmarks-you-wont-believe-were-turned-rainbow

[JDXXX]

We've finally made it to where we as proud gay people can now have the right to marry, and have equal rights as straight people do.

 

Maybe one day(if all goes well) I can get married to that special man in my life if we decide to do so as you never know what the future may hold. Only if it's meant to be as life works in mysterious ways.

 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/05/same-sex-marriage_2560538b.jpg

 

[AdamSmith]

Now that we have our rights, this (speaking from experience) is worth remembering too...

 

http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/rottenecard_65401735_ybnk9tkkgg.png

[+ SimplyAdam]

Being with friends in our ecstatic overwhelm outside of Stonewall Inn... listening to Edie Windsor and others lead the crowd in an overpowering experience of Pride and Love, of Expansiveness and Inclusiveness... What an epic epoch! The whole damn world feels as though it's gone gay!

[Rudynate]

Kennedy's opinion echoes his earlier opinions striking down DOMA and the Texas sodomy law by avoiding mentioning the standard of review. He says the right to marry is a fundamental right, that it includes same-sex couples, but doesn't even take the next step of explicitly saying that this means strict scrutiny, so gays win because the states failed to present a compelling interest that requires excluding gays from marriage. Same deal with his equal protection discussion: he says that due process and equal protection are interdependent, and because the case involves a fundamental right, gays win. In other words, if his opinion were an answer to a law school Constitutional Law exam, he would probably get a C at the most for failing to mention key doctrinal terms, especially the standard of review, and explain how they apply. But I (a law school professor) assign him an A+ for effort and the correct result.

 

And in Roemer v. Evans he said it wasn't even necessary to address the question of standard of review because the law was so obviously motivated by animus toward the target group that it didn't survive even under rational basis scrutiny.

[AdamSmith]

Nice insights into Kennedy.

 

The Kennedy Stamp

I’ve been watching the justice for 12 years. The gay marriage decision certainly bore his trademark.

By HELEN KNOWLES

June 27, 2015

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/anthony-kennedy-gay-marriage-119491.html#ixzz3eIisnk9m

[AdamSmith]

"It's hard to believe that gay Americans achieved full constitutional personhood just five years after corporations did." Stephen Colbert

[+ WilliamM]

We've finally made it to where we as proud gay people can now have the right to marry, and have equal rights as straight people do.

 

Maybe one day(if all goes well) I can get married to that special man in my life if we decide to do so as you never know what the future may hold. Only if it's meant to be as life works in mysterious ways.

 

I hope with all my heart that it happens for you and for all the members of this forum who want to marry!

[tyro]

I cannot fully express how grateful I am for this forum. It's so nice to be around others who feel the same way I do about marriage equality. A lapse in judgment took me to the online comments in the local newspaper. What primitive mindsets. I could not believe how many postings beat the "they're taking MY Christian rights away" drum. If I wanted to start a total flame war, I'd post, "Sweet deities. (There may be more than one, you know...) If you don't want to marry someone with the same type of plumbing as yours, then don't. Don't deny someone else's right to the same freedoms you have."

 

All right. Short girl is jumping down from the soapbox.

T

[bigvalboy]

I cannot fully express how grateful I am for this forum. It's so nice to be around others who feel the same way I do about marriage equality. A lapse in judgment took me to the online comments in the local newspaper. What primitive mindsets. I could not believe how many postings beat the "they're taking MY Christian rights away" drum. If I wanted to start a total flame war, I'd post, "Sweet deities. (There may be more than one, you know...) If you don't want to marry someone with the same type of plumbing as yours, then don't. Don't deny someone else's right to the same freedoms you have."

 

All right. Short girl is jumping down from the soapbox.

T

 

Double like Ms T......

[Guest]

Ironically enough "Antonin Scalia" anagrams to "I sanction anal."

 

Are any of you good at this? Someone please come up with good ones for Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito....

[Guest]

OK. Well, for Samuel Anthony Alito, we do get Hooey--anal stimulant. And for Judge Clarence Thomas, we can get Launch ejected orgasm...

[tyro]

OK. Well, for Samuel Anthony Alito, we do get Hooey--anal stimulant. And for Judge Clarence Thomas, we can get Launch ejected orgasm...

Brilliant. Thanks Uni!

How does that old expression go....oh yeah....."What you resist persists......."

T

[+ dutchmuch]

Republican candidates- "I wholeheartedly disagree with the ruling. I will do everything in my power to protect religious freedom."

 

Democratic candidates- "I am proud of our country and this is a anther example of growing equality."

 

(Why do Republican Christians and members of ISIL share the same mindset?)

[+ Gar1eth]

It's not anagrams. But here is a Scalia Insult Generator. You enter your name. And it posts it (for your private viewing pleasure) into some insult that Scalia used on someone.

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2015/06/justice_scalia_insult_generator_how_the_supreme_court_justice_would_mock.html

 

Gman

[bobchitown]

I read the news while sitting in meeting room with a very mixed group of people (yes, I was phone surfing instead of paying attention). My first reaction was to put the phone down for a second, read it again to be sure I hadn't misread, and then said, "apologies but you all need to hear this, the decision is in." Everyone sat in stunned silence for a few seconds, and then to a person, from the gay hipster to the elderly granny type, the entire room broke into applause. Once again I'm struck by how the tyranny of a minority ruled for far too long, and then the states fell one by one in quick succession. Just add one more thing to the growing list of things I never thought I'd see in my lifetime.

 

I understand the sentiment of those who say "we won" and while I do sort of feel that way, my reaction is more "at last sanity has overcome bigotry and emotion." I mostly feel like we - being the country - read the constitution, came to our senses, and one more barrier is gone. I see more people applauding or standing in silence tears streaming down their cheeks while hugging the person who can now truly be their recognized partner than I do people screaming "we won!!" Pride parades around the country tomorrow may show a different emotion, and I hope they turn into one huge country-wide block party.

 

The text of the decision is the most pointed and emotional I've seen. Imagine: when the founding fathers wrote "equality for all" they meant ALL. Essentially, there's nothing here to question, move on. And to then see the gay men's chorus singing the National Anthem on the steps of the Supreme Court. Unbelievable. A very emotional weekend.

 

Now, to that pastor who plans to set himself on fire - be my guest, at least he won't reproduce more little bigots.

 

I feel very different about stores denying service than I do about conservative churches with deeply held beliefs. For this all to work I need to respect their religious beliefs if I expect them to respect mine. You won't find me darkening their door regularly, but if my cousin decided to marry in one of them I'd be in the front row celebration as part of the family, and would hope she'd be in the same spot at my mine. If we lose religious freedom we've lost something very important in what makes this crazy country work.

[AdamSmith]

Megyn Kelly has to explain to Huckabee how it all works.

 

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/megyn-kelly-mike-huckabee-supreme-court-gay-marriage

[+ poolboy48220]

A lapse in judgment took me to the online comments in the local newspaper. What primitive mindsets. I could not believe how many postings beat the "they're taking MY Christian rights away" drum.

I'd reconnected on Facebook with a dozen or so of my former high school classmates, and quietly defriended them after a few months due to the endless stream of right-wing anti-Obama rants. I'm glad I did, my Facebook feed Friday was full of people rejoicing.

[+ poolboy48220]

OK, in the same urge that makes you sniff the milk you think has spoiled, I went and checked a few of the classmates I'd defriended. One had no comment, one had posted the picture of the White House lit up in rainbow lights with no comment (so I'm not sure if it was ironic or not), and one had four or five posts raging about how this decision was ruining the country. With bad spelling, to boot.

[+ Gar1eth]

I'd reconnected on Facebook with a dozen or so of my former high school classmates, and quietly defriended them after a few months due to the endless stream of right-wing anti-Obama rants. I'm glad I did, my Facebook feed Friday was full of people rejoicing.

 

 

I unfriended the wife of my high school best friend about 6 months to year ago because of her statements on 'marriage'. (They are LDS). I will admit that the statements weren't degrading to us, but I decided want to hear her views against it anymore. I unfriended a college acquaintance earlier today because she posted agreement to some evangelist saying that we should follow the Bible. And the way the statement read it was obviously against us marrying. I've kept some other friends who have stated things in gentler or more conciliatory ways. It's all going to depend how vitriolic I think their comments are.

 

Gman

[+ Gar1eth]

Sigh!! It's always the Jews. A cow dies. The village well dries up. The Black Plague spares the Jewish ghetto. Chernobyl....Greece defaults on her debts.

 

I keep telling people that we need better security at our clandestine World Domination Planning Sessions. But does anyone listen??:confused:

 

Gman

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Lutheran pastor says Jews to blame for destroying Christian values after US approves gay marriage

 

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=290987&h=530&w=758

 

White House lights up after gay marriage ruling. (photo credit:REUTERS)

 

Mark Dankof, a Lutheran pastor and political activist, declared the Jews to blame for the Supreme Court's ruling on Friday which declared any law to ban gay marriage unconstitutional.

 

Speaking to reporters from Iran's Press TV, Dankof insisted that Jewish influence and money were being used to destroy Christian culture and values globally.

 

"It should not be ignored that the victories for abortion on demand and LGBT rights are reflective of the disproportionate influence of Jewish power, money, and activism in the United States," he declared.

 

“The key Jewish role played in the mainstreaming of abortion, LGBT, and pornography in the United States may be documented in Google search, especially in looking at the Frankfurt School and its Institute for Social Research,” added Dankof.

 

Dankof declared that Russian President Vladamir Putin is one of few national leaders who recognize the threat of Jewish power.

 

“I believe Mr. Putin is a key ingredient in destroying this global threat, and restoring cultural integrity and national sovereignty to his country, and providing a model for defeating the Zionist agenda globally,” he concluded.

 

Prior to the Supreme Court decision there were 13 states with official gay marriage bans in place. These bans have now been declared unconstitutional and same-sex couples will be allowed to marry freely across the United States.

 

The ruling is the latest milestone in the gay rights movement. In 2010, Obama signed a law allowing gays to serve openly in the US military. In 2013, the high court ruled unconstitutional a 1996 US law that declared for the purposes of federal benefits marriage was defined as between one man and one woman.