Jump to content

Supremes about to rule...

dutchmuch

By + dutchmuch
in The Lounge

This topic is 3275 days old and is no longer open for new replies.  Replies are automatically disabled after two years of inactivity.  Please create a new topic instead of posting here.  

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 26
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Kevin Slater Grand Master

Kevin Slater

Posted
Posted

All today's opinions are already released. And they did NOT say that tomorrow will be the last day of the term, which means that it won't be. We will have opinions on Monday. So it could come down tomorrow (Friday), but MUCH more likely on Monday (after Pride, alas).

 

Kevin Slater

Link to comment
Share on other sites
WilliamM Grand Master

+ WilliamM

Posted
Posted

John Roberts (W.) is not Earl Warren (Eisenhower), William O. Douglas (FDR), Thurgood Marshall (Johnson) or William Brennan (Eisenhower), but his vote today gives me great hope that Supreme Court will approve gay marriage in the next few days.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Charlie Grand Master

+ Charlie

Posted
Posted

I don't know that Roberts will go all the way to a Constitutional right, but I'll bet he will uphold some form of recognition, such as requiring states without same sex marriage to give full recognition to marriages performed in other states.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
poolboy48220 Grand Master

+ poolboy48220

Posted
Posted

I can't remember where I read this, but I did read that they rarely issue opinions on a Friday. That they ARE issuing opinions tomorrow (Friday, June 26) is said to be a hint that it'll be pro-gay-marriage, in that two other pro-gay decisions were also issued on June 26: United States vs Windsor, the invalidation of DOMA, on June 26 2013, and Lawrence vs Texas, striking down the Texas sodomy law, on June 26 2003.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Kevin Slater Grand Master

Kevin Slater

Posted
Posted
I can't remember where I read this, but I did read that they rarely issue opinions on a Friday. That they ARE issuing opinions tomorrow (Friday, June 26) is said to be a hint that it'll be pro-gay-marriage, in that two other pro-gay decisions were also issued on June 26: United States vs Windsor, the invalidation of DOMA, on June 26 2013, and Lawrence vs Texas, striking down the Texas sodomy law, on June 26 2003.

 

Scotusblog.com talked about this earlier today. They disputed the notion that the process concerns itself with anniversaries and the like. (Yes, a lot of big cases get announced on historically important dates, but that's merely a function of the term ending around the same time each year, and big cases being released at the ends of those terms.) As per Friday being added, it said "I'm guessing that the Justices would rather (add another day to release opinions) tomorrow than Tuesday so they can beat traffic leaving town for the 4th of July weekend."

 

The Court's process is far less deferential to anniversaries, symbolism and the like than sentimentalists would like to think. It's a bureaucracy with its own workings and timetables. Stonewall, Windsor and Lawrence simply don't impact the timing.

 

Kevin Slater

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gar1eth Grand Master

+ Gar1eth

Posted
Posted
I can't remember where I read this, but I did read that they rarely issue opinions on a Friday. That they ARE issuing opinions tomorrow (Friday, June 26) is said to be a hint that it'll be pro-gay-marriage, in that two other pro-gay decisions were also issued on June 26: United States vs Windsor, the invalidation of DOMA, on June 26 2013, and Lawrence vs Texas, striking down the Texas sodomy law, on June 26 2003.

 

I had just started hiring in 2002. I remember meeting Rocky-formerly of Dallas- for the first time in a parking lot in November of 2003 and him hugging and kissing me mentioning that because of the Lawrence decision we couldn't be arrested. Of course we couldn't have been arrested before Lawrence for hugging and kissing anyway. But we could have been for what happened afterwards when we left the parking lot and went to a hotel.

 

http://www.men4rentnow.com/fs/101435.CB7853FA.jpg

 

Gman

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gar1eth Grand Master

+ Gar1eth

Posted
Posted
I don't know that Roberts will go all the way to a Constitutional right, but I'll bet he will uphold some form of recognition, such as requiring states without same sex marriage to give full recognition to marriages performed in other states.

 

That's what I'm thinking might happen. But if not this, I have a major fear that a majority of Justices will view SSM as a bridge too far.

 

Gman

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gar1eth Grand Master

+ Gar1eth

Posted
Posted
I don't know that Roberts will go all the way to a Constitutional right, but I'll bet he will uphold some form of recognition, such as requiring states without same sex marriage to give full recognition to marriages performed in other states.

 

I wonder how much soul searching Roberts had to do deciding whether to join the majority and write the decision for-or do as he actually did, vote against it, and write the main dissenting opinion. He knows his vote and opinion will be remembered for years. And as he was on the losing side, history may not be very kind to him and his fellow cohorts.

 

And I still think Scalia is an intelligent, evil, pompous windbag.

 

As for the argument that what the majority did today was not Constitutional-where was that sentiment in Citizens United where they gave personhood to corporations?

 

Gman

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dutchmuch Experienced

+ dutchmuch

Posted
  • Author
Posted
I wonder how much soul searching Roberts had to do deciding whether to join the majority and write the decision for-or do as he actually did, vote against it, and write the main dissenting opinion. He knows his vote and opinion will be remembered for years. And as he was on the losing side, history may not be very kind to him and his fellow cohorts.

 

Gman

 

All the Supremes should be writing on how they'll be remembered by their grandchildren.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest

Guest

Posted
Posted
The decision will come out on the 30th, as their most controversial decisions always do....

 

I've never been proven wrong so quickly! But glad I was! :rolleyes: Now there is more cause for celebration at gay pride festivals which are going on this week-end.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

Contact Info:

The Company of Men
5834 C. North Kings Hwy #4343
Alexandria, VA 22303

Email: moderators@companyofmen.org

Help Support Our Site

Our site operates with the support of our members. Make a one-time donation using the buttons below.

$10 $25 $50 $100 $200

Make a recurring donation

Additional Resources

×
×
  • Create New...