I don't care if he's gay or straight

[+ azdr0710]

it seems like there's allot of mediocre/bad reports and overt rip-off's there. Is there something about Miami that's problematic?

 

 

have you ever read stuff by Carl Hiaasen?!!....it's a Florida thing!......

[+ sync]

For whatever reason, I have more issues with this than most other people do. If a male escort is seeking gay clients, why specify he is straight? He could just state that he has limits and what they are. By stating that he is straight suggests (in my mind) that he wants to clearly establish a separation and/or he is extending a special consideration for which I should be willing to pay. I suppose my mindset is that homosexual, heterosexual, and bi-sexual are absolutes, whereby, I regard male escorts seeking gay clients who identify themselves as gay or bi-sexual escorts as being more credible.

[+ Gar1eth]

For whatever reason, I have more issues with this than most other people do. If a male escort is seeking gay clients, why specify he is straight? He could just state that he has limits and what they are. By stating that he is straight suggests (in my mind) that he wants to clearly establish a separation and/or he is extending a special consideration for which I should be willing to pay. I suppose my mindset is that homosexual, heterosexual, and bi-sexual are absolutes, whereby, I regard male escorts seeking gay clients who identify themselves as gay or bi-sexual escorts as being more credible.

 

There could be many reasons to identify as straight. One might be that some gay men like the thought of having sex with an 'unobtainable' straight man. Some of us will say that gay men can be too effeminate. On the escort side-it does suggest there might be limits which may decrease the number of clients who want him to do things he doesn't want to do. Also it may be ego protective for the escort to identify as straight whether he actually is or not. For the ones who are truly straight -if they have any fears/problems with possibly being identified as gay-asserting their 'straightness' is a way to assure others that they are only escorting for the money. For the ones who are gay and deliberately lying about being straight-they know there are gay guys who prefer that fantasy. For the ones who are actually gay or bisexual but haven't come to terms with it yet, saying they are straight helps them not have to come to terms for something they aren't ready for yet.

 

I'm sure there are other reasons that I haven't thought of.

 

Gman

[+ SundayZip]

I understand why many guys prefer to not hire escorts who identify as straight and I respect their preferences. I also appreciate the sharing of the rationale for their preferences. The responses in this thread have all been that; thoughtful and respectful sharing. Thank-you. But I do have a request for forum members who personally have no interest in an escort who identifies as straight…

 

Don’t make judgmental comments when others post inquiries or request information about a straight escort. I’ve noticed that some forum members like to make unsolicited comments that simply state their disinterest of straight escorts or even their disdain. They have no firsthand knowledge of the escort nor do they provide useful information. They just want everyone to know that they would never (god forbid!) be interested in a straight escort. To me, these comments come across as unnecessarily judgmental toward the OP.

[+ sync]

My theory is that a man who is highly sexual (gay or straight) and is open, adventurous and willing, can provide a great experience for another man. There are plenty of "straight" men out there that are better qualified than a lot of "gay" men.

 

Do any others think this way, or is it oddball thinking here?

 

Your final question casts a rather wide net. Perhaps if you had followed with something like "Just concise yes or no answers, please, sans commentary" would have helped.

 

If "unnecessarily judgmental" comments are a severe sensitivity for you, I fear these forums are going to be rough seas for you.

 

If anything in my original reply to your thread, or this follow-up, has offended you or inferred a personal attack upon escorts, please know that it was not intentional.

[m4hotness]

I haven't hired that much only 8 encounters so far and 3 of which are with the same guy. I don't recall if any of them listed as being straight but if all were gay, or listed as gay, most did not give me a good time. I guess I have yet to hire a straight guy the only thing that might prevent this is that they are not going to reciprocate. I am not into body/cock worship so for me I want one where we are mutually giving each other oral.

[+ FreshFluff]

Here's the issue I have with hiring someone who advertises themselves as "straight" - or to a lesser-extent, "bi": No matter how good the sex is or how much fun I'm having, at some point I WILL think to myself "I wonder if he's repulsed by having sex with men, especially ones who are older than he is - the way I would be if I were having sex with a woman who was significantly older than I am?"

 

TGuy, I don't know if you're gay or bi. If you're bi, I understand your point. If you're gay, does the woman's age or appearance really make a difference in how much you want to have sex with her? No judgment implied, truly. I'm just curious.

 

As much as I enjoy an affectionate gay topman, I've found that I truly love being with an oversexed, overly proud sexual alpha straight man.

 

http://media.giphy.com/media/Lci55oMgHLJkY/giphy.gif

[+ azdr0710]

ok, I'll throw this idea out there!!.....just sayin'!

 

probably more than a few of us here suffer from internalized homophobia, so we prefer hanging out with straight (or, at least, "straight-acting") guys....discuss

 

http://www.revelandriot.com/resources/internalized-homophobia/

[Guest RexB]

I've done some reading recently on straight men who have sex with other men. I read in a couple of different articles that said that the primary difference between a gay man and a straight man who has sex with other men is that the straight guy is into the act, while the gay guy is into the other guy.

 

I don't know if this description of the difference is "true" or not, but it makes sense to me and is as good an explanation for why hiring a "straight" escort appeals to me. I'm only into this for the sex acts and perhaps that's why the straighter the guy is the hotter the sex has been for me regardless of what he lists his orientation as. I'm never looking to pay for some kind of pretend romance where my emotions get all involved and I wind up longing and pining for some "lover" who is never, ever going to be "mine" no matter how gay, straight or bi he might claim to be.

I personally don't take any of that label stuff seriously, not even my own.

And as far as judgment goes, the only one that judgment affects is the one who judges.

[+ Gar1eth]

I haven't hired that much only 8 encounters so far and 3 of which are with the same guy. I don't recall if any of them listed as being straight but if all were gay, or listed as gay, most did not give me a good time. I guess I have yet to hire a straight guy the only thing that might prevent this is that they are not going to reciprocate. I am not into body/cock worship so for me I want one where we are mutually giving each other oral.

 

I'm sorry you haven't had a good time with most of the guys you've selected. I hope the one you've been with three times has made things pleasant for you. Do you think it's just bad luck that 5 of the guys haven't been any good? Looking back were there any warning signs in their ads?

 

Gman

[+ Gar1eth]

ok, I'll throw this idea out there!!.....just sayin'!

 

probably more than a few of us here suffer from internalized homophobia, so we prefer hanging out with straight (or, at least, "straight-acting") guys....discuss

 

http://www.revelandriot.com/resources/internalized-homophobia/

 

I definitely understand your point. But in my case I just want someone whose nature is to act 'average'. I'm just as put off by a straight guy who is overly macho cussing with every third word out of his mouth as I might be by an extremely effeminate guy. I don't think I'd do well with the Jersey Shore guys.

 

Gman

[m4hotness]

I'm sorry you haven't had a good time with most of the guys you've selected. I hope the one you've been with three times has made things pleasant for you. Do you think it's just bad luck that 5 of the guys haven't been any good? Looking back were there any warning signs in their ads?

 

Gman

Hi Gman!

The very first guy that was hired was from the back pages of a local gay weekly publication. My friend whom I had been intimate before phoned him and thus I don't know exactly what was said. I just remember that I was doing the servicing.

The second time, it was a guy on m4rentnow.com. I don't even remember how I had discovered that site anyhow I called and said I wanted an hour of his time. He came over, I gave him some head and then he tried to stick it in. I jumped back from the pain that he caused me. Then I said let me sit on it instead.

Then I discovered daddy's reviews and I lurked here for almost two years before becoming a member.

I believe that since I didn't exactly say what I was into, it was the main reason I've had those bad experiences. Also when people don't live up on their end I didn't say anything.

I should have hired Brandan Steel back when he advertised on m4rentnow.com. Thought he was too good to be true. And I was afraid he would be law enforcement since he showed no genetalia.

Sorry that was a bit long! If you or anyone can recommend a gay, straight or bi escort in the Fort Lauderdale area, that would be great!

[+ Gar1eth]

Hi Gman!

The very first guy that was hired was from the back pages of a local gay weekly publication. My friend whom I had been intimate before phoned him and thus I don't know exactly what was said. I just remember that I was doing the servicing.

The second time, it was a guy on m4rentnow.com. I don't even remember how I had discovered that site anyhow I called and said I wanted an hour of his time. He came over, I gave him some head and then he tried to stick it in. I jumped back from the pain that he caused me. Then I said let me sit on it instead.

Then I discovered daddy's reviews and I lurked here for almost two years before becoming a member.

I believe that since I didn't exactly say what I was into, it was the main reason I've had those bad experiences. Also when people don't live up on their end I didn't say anything.

I should have hired Brandan Steel back when he advertised on m4rentnow.com. Thought he was too good to be true. And I was afraid he would be law enforcement since he showed no genetalia.

Sorry that was a bit long! If you or anyone can recommend a gay, straight or bi escort in the Fort Lauderdale area, that would be great!

 

 

You know I probably hadn't looked at the Miami or Ft Lauderdale ads in close to a year as I have no plans for visiting. I just took a quick look at both Rentboy and M4RN and was surprised that escorts I saw advertising for years seemed to have dropped their ads. There were also a lot of new guys. I do have two suggestions for you.

 

#1. Matt Stevens. I've been with him three times I think. One overnight and two shorter visits. The last time was probably three years ago. If you like his look, he's a friendly muscular versatile guy.

 

http://m.men4rentnow.com/profile.cfm?CID=134362

 

2. Brandan Steele is reportedly still escorting although hard to schedule due to his non escort life. You can probably find his contact info under his reviews on Daddys.

 

 

On another topic-while looking at Ft Lauderdale ads for m4Hotness, I saw that Chris Duffy (aka Bull Stanton) had an ad. I've never met him but for a 54 years old (his age is in his ad) , he still has quite a physique. I mean he's not in his prime. But neither am I (I actually was never in my prime).

 

The coincidence was I was thinking of Chris the other day while reading the thread on porn stars. I can't reminder if a poster on that thread bemoaned the fact that some of these incredibly handsome guys have really over-inked themselves to their detriment or whether that was only what I was thinking as I perused people's favorite porn stars. In any case Chris came to my mind.

 

My personal feeling being if tattoos are to express your individuality-well so many people are getting them now-that it would be more individual to forego them. But this is coming from someone who doesnt like jewelry either earrings, watches piercings, etc. And what is a tattoo but jewelry you can't remove? I guess I'm lucky I'm not liable to get married. My hubby might get angry if I wasn't interested in matching 'his and his' Prince Alberts.

 

Gman

[bigvalboy]

I should have hired Brandan Steel back when he advertised on m4rentnow.com. Thought he was too good to be true.

If you or anyone can recommend a gay, straight or bi escort in the Fort Lauderdale area, that would be great!

 

Brandan Steele is still escorting. He was in Palm Springs recently at Daddy's annual get together.

http://rentmen.com/BrandanSteele

 

He was out and about in FTL a few months back with another forum member and we all had dinner. It was good to see him again, and he is looking absolutely amazing. I would try and contacting him through Rentmen first.... Failing that, I might have other contact info for him which is through my PM....good luck

[+ Keith30309]

 

My personal feeling being if tattoos are to express your individuality-well so many people are getting them now-that it would be more individual to forego them. But this is coming from someone who doesnt like jewelry either earrings, watches piercings, etc. And what is a tattoo but jewelry you can't remove? I guess I'm lucky I'm not liable to get married. My hubby might get angry if I wasn't interested in matching 'his and his' Prince Alberts.

 

Gman

 

His and his Prince Alberts! Image the consequences of an unintended 'interlocking' followed by a surprise sneeze - too ugly to contemplate.

[TruthBTold]

I've done some reading recently on straight men who have sex with other men. I read in a couple of different articles that said that the primary difference between a gay man and a straight man who has sex with other men is that the straight guy is into the act, while the gay guy is into the other guy. If that's true, it would mean that the straight guy can have some incredibly erotic experiences with other men, but he would be less likely to experience the connection and the intimacy and that whole wonderful panoply of emotion that gay men can experience with each other, even when they were complete strangers up until the time that they had sex.

 

I like this explanation, though I do not think it applies in all situations. If I hired a guy without me knowing whether he was straight, gay or bi and he came over and we had great sex, then we had great sex. Because I generally have to have some connection with the other guy for sex to be good, then even a straight guy would have to at least pretend that he was connected to me on that level (if he actually was not). But there have been times when I just wanted to fuck a guy and get him out the door as soon as possible because I did not care whether there was a connection. So as with all probably true generalities, there are usually exceptions.

[Rudynate]

Without a doubt.

So as with all probably true generalities, there are usually exceptions.

 

Without a doubt. It's a useful explanation for a curious phenomenon.

[ZhenXBear]

My second boyfriend identified as bisexual (most days) and it really wasn't something that ever bothered me. Some people have the ability to love and appreciate both genders; simple as that, really.

 

At the time I was 24 and he was 19 and we enjoyed each other's company emensely. He was decidedly "all boy" which added to the ease of our interactions; nothing quite like rolling over on a sunny Midwestern Saturday afternoon to gaze at a 6'2" Dark haired, smooth, green eyed, swimmer-built, Italian guy snoozing quietly on the neighboring pillow that you'd just beat in a street race on your Yamaha FZR1000 a few hours earlier.

 

Ultimately the relationship ended because he periodically backtracked to the "I think I'm straight" stance which made me question if he was really invested; he was devastated when I ended our relationship but later came to comfortable terms with his bisexuality and apologized for putting me through the roller coaster ride. He's my only ex boyfriend I'd ever really want to sit down to dinner with again.

 

I digress but I'm somewhat dubious about "straight" men who have sex with other men for pay. Aren't they to some degree bisexual? Would I hire a straight guy? Not likely; I'll stick to guys who identify as bisexual or gay.

[Zapped]

An interesting thread!

 

I just had a long talk with a friend who, with his girlfriend, had a threeway with a guy. He's straight, but very into new experiences, and was happy to fulfill his girlfriend's fantasy of watching a guy suck his dick. He's also open to her fantasy of seeing him get fucked. I've known him for years, and he's never said anything homophobic, always been supportive, and always been really into lots of sex with lots of women.

 

I used to identify totally as gay. I had one sex dream that included a woman when I was a sophomore in college, about a girl who was a very close friend, and that was it. Then at the end of my senior year a close friendship with a girl became physical and it was an interesting adventure. A few years later, I got into being dominant, including topping men for the first time. And then I found I could really enjoy being with a woman, but it was always some domination fantasy. What's the thing they say about rape? It's not about the sex, it's about the power. Well, it was that way for me.

 

I used to give oral sex to my girlfriend and later to my wife. It was a little icky at first, but then I got used to it, and enjoyed that I was giving her pleasure. It's certainly not anything that I ever jerked off thinking about!

 

I now identify as gay and haven't had any sexual contact with a woman for over ten years and very rarely miss it. I can certainly see how a gay-positive straight guy could enjoy having sexual activity with another guy, could learn to be effective at giving blow jobs, could enjoy getting blown, etc.

 

And I once hired a gay escort to role play being a disdainful straight jock, which he did well, and had one of my best orgasms ever.

[ZhenXBear]

An interesting thread!

 

I just had a long talk with a friend who, with his girlfriend, had a threeway with a guy. He's straight, but very into new experiences, and was happy to fulfill his girlfriend's fantasy of watching a guy suck his dick. He's also open to her fantasy of seeing him get fucked. I've known him for years, and he's never said anything homophobic, always been supportive, and always been really into lots of sex with lots of women.

 

I used to identify totally as gay. I had one sex dream that included a woman when I was a sophomore in college, about a girl who was a very close friend, and that was it. Then at the end of my senior year a close friendship with a girl became physical and it was an interesting adventure. A few years later, I got into being dominant, including topping men for the first time. And then I found I could really enjoy being with a woman, but it was always some domination fantasy. What's the thing they say about rape? It's not about the sex, it's about the power. Well, it was that way for me.

 

I used to give oral sex to my girlfriend and later to my wife. It was a little icky at first, but then I got used to it, and enjoyed that I was giving her pleasure. It's certainly not anything that I ever jerked off thinking about!

 

I now identify as gay and haven't had any sexual contact with a woman for over ten years and very rarely miss it. I can certainly see how a gay-positive straight guy could enjoy having sexual activity with another guy, could learn to be effective at giving blow jobs, could enjoy getting blown, etc.

 

And I once hired a gay escort to role play being a disdainful straight jock, which he did well, and had one of my best orgasms ever.

 

 

Interesting adventures! It seems like there are lots of guys who enjoy the allure of giving a guy his "first time" experience or two guys having their first time experience together. I happen to find that genre of film pretty exciting, actually. I've never dwelled much on the analysis of whether or not they're bisexual or gay in reality, or just really need money and are willing to put up with a lot of things they find unpleasant; the last scenario probably being the only one I'd reason that a guy could be straight, since he would never actively seek out male/male companionship otherwise?

[+ Gar1eth]

An interesting thread!

 

I just had a long talk with a friend who, with his girlfriend, had a threeway with a guy. He's straight, but very into new experiences, and was happy to fulfill his girlfriend's fantasy of watching a guy suck his dick. He's also open to her fantasy of seeing him get fucked. I've known him for years, and he's never said anything homophobic, always been supportive, and always been really into lots of sex with lots of women.

 

I used to identify totally as gay. I had one sex dream that included a woman when I was a sophomore in college, about a girl who was a very close friend, and that was it. Then at the end of my senior year a close friendship with a girl became physical and it was an interesting adventure. A few years later, I got into being dominant, including topping men for the first time. And then I found I could really enjoy being with a woman, but it was always some domination fantasy. What's the thing they say about rape? It's not about the sex, it's about the power. Well, it was that way for me.

 

I used to give oral sex to my girlfriend and later to my wife. It was a little icky at first, but then I got used to it, and enjoyed that I was giving her pleasure. It's certainly not anything that I ever jerked off thinking about!

 

I now identify as gay and haven't had any sexual contact with a woman for over ten years and very rarely miss it. I can certainly see how a gay-positive straight guy could enjoy having sexual activity with another guy, could learn to be effective at giving blow jobs, could enjoy getting blown, etc.

 

And I once hired a gay escort to role play being a disdainful straight jock, which he did well, and had one of my best orgasms ever.

 

I definitely believe some people are more flexible than others. The question is how flexible. I achieved a partial erection to a dream I had about a woman when I was 17 or so. Other than that nada. While scared and apprehensive of sex, female private parts scared me. But when I read a story about gay sex in my early 20's-I didn't want to be gay to begin with -but the thought of bottoming made me want to be gay even less. Even now 13 years into me having sex, I really don't want to bottom.

 

On the other hand I have an acquaintance who is more flexible . I don't know his entire history. But he told me he dated girls all through high school. I'm assuming he had sex with them. He was even married for a few years. But he had fantasies about guys. And he wanted to bottom. He said he investigated bottoming on the Internet. He found some guy by rough a chat room or something. They met. He bottomed the first time he had gay sex. He never told the guy he met it was his first time until sometime after they met. He's versatile now but prefers bottoming.

 

Gman