RB ad says 'ask' under his rates...

[bomerrang]

And you know what one boi said when I 'asked' during a phone conversation? "Make me an offer."

 

Where do you take that one?

[+ Travis69]

For this situation I would have replied with the amount I usually pay and see what he says.

[+ Gar1eth]

I'd probably start out a little under what you'd normally pay. I'm not trying to under pay anyone. It just seems to me that a guy who won't give you a definite price, would very likely try to go higher than your 1st offer. And while many clients on here say they would never negotiate a fee, in this case the escort is the one who made a negotiation necessary by not having a fee stated to begin with.

 

Gman

[buckguy]

When the ad says "ask", it usually means they want more than the norm in that market. If you're not willing to play games to arrive at that, I wouldn't bother.

[Guest Starbuck]

Seems to me I'm seeing "ASK ME" more often--at least in the market I usually look at. It's a matter of personal preference, but since I have no interest in a negotiation, it's a disqualifier for me. I'm interested to read Buckguy's opinion that "ASK ME" usually means a guy wants MORE than the going rate for his market; I've been thinking it might mean the opposite ... that he's not able to generate enough business at the going rate and, so, is open to negotiation. I guess it could mean either of those things.

[AdamSmith]

When the ad says "ask", it usually means they want more than the norm in that market.

 

In 12 years of hiring from ads that say Ask, I've never had that happen.

 

Nor have I ever been invited to negotiate. They name a price, I take it or leave it.

[thickornotatall]

Let's Make A Deal? Not a bad idea....be prepared to negotiate...just like at the flea market...or bookstore...or corner....

[Decatur Guy]

All the "ask me" guys I've called lately quoted me a price of $300 an hour or more. I haven't hired any of them (though I've sorely tempted on one guy who will do $450 for two hours).

[+ azdr0710]

ha...all this reminds me of that great haggle scene from Monty Python's "Life Of Brian"

 

[Okliehomo]

Who negotiates at a bookstore?

 

I get "Ask me" when a guy lists it for an overnite or travel and I take it to mean that he either doesn't do it that much and therefore doesn't know what to charge or that he knows that one shoe doesn't fit all and needs to find out what the client's idea of an overnite/travel is, that he needs more information before he can quote a rate. Since here in Siberia, I can only do overnites, I always tell them in my initial contact what I expect and what I will pay.

 

Now, "Make an offer" hits me all wrong. I hear it as "What's it worth to you?" which means to me that they aren't professional escorts and that they are not approaching it as a business in which one would know what one's own time/service is worth. I have had that happen to me only once. Aiden Shaw and that was a total disaster, so that no doubt jades my opinion, but it just seems hustlery to me which is exactly what he turned out to be.

 

Not that I am bitter about it.

 

Okie

[MrMiniver]

And you know what one boi said when I 'asked' during a phone conversation? "Make me an offer."

 

Where do you take that one?

 

I have occasionally gotten "what did you have in mind?" I'm not a good negotiator (I'm an academic) which makes going to South American countries a trial (all that bargaining) ... but I've been very interested how I've occasionally had a guy say "$1000" for that amount of time" and I say "too much, how about $300" and he says yes. So I'm learning to negotiate

[JT Brooklyn]

In 12 years of hiring from ads that say Ask, I've never had that happen.

 

Nor have I ever been invited to negotiate. They name a price, I take it or leave it.

 

Totally Agree! As with other things in Life.."Asking Never Hurts"! Unless the Working Guy as a Top is very Big!

[+ Socalguy]

I have occasionally gotten "what did you have in mind?" I'm not a good negotiator (I'm an academic) which makes going to South American countries a trial (all that bargaining) ... but I've been very interested how I've occasionally had a guy say "$1000" for that amount of time" and I say "too much, how about $300" and he says yes. So I'm learning to negotiate

 

I hate haggling with a passion. I'll ask for a price and if theytell me to make them an offer, it's a deal breaker.

[JT Brooklyn]

P.S. IF it's the end of the month..make me an offer could also be covering the Rent!

 

Unfortunately with some Working Guys especially the Young'uns..the $$ goes as fast as it Cums.

[+ Funguy]

I have occasionally gotten "what did you have in mind?" I'm not a good negotiator (I'm an academic) which makes going to South American countries a trial (all that bargaining) ... but I've been very interested how I've occasionally had a guy say "$1000" for that amount of time" and I say "too much, how about $300" and he says yes. So I'm learning to negotiate

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Mr. M. - $300 is too much. Start off with $200 if your goal is $300.

 

Be adventurous and fun,

 

Funguy

[clive101]

Have seen a lot of travelling escort with the ask me. I usually do ask and go with the guy with the price. When I have asked they usually don't have a rate because they travel and use the same ad in each area therefore don't have a set price. Just like supply and demand not all countries can be charged the same amount.

[down_to_business]

And you know what one boi said when I 'asked' during a phone conversation? "Make me an offer."

 

Where do you take that one?

 

I "ask" them why they won't post their rate

 

Generally, I find that a big turn-off, and an uber time-waster for me and the escort.

[BaronArtz]

P.S. IF it's the end of the month..make me an offer could also be covering the Rent!

 

Unfortunately with some Working Guys especially the Young'uns..the $$ goes as fast as it Cums.

 

That is exactly what I was thinking. The boy can have his opinion of what the 'price' should be for his time, but then it's the end of the month, a sudden expense came up, ... things happen and he NEEDS that cash. Time to make a deal. I remember the way it was in NY at Stella's and Cats (hustler bars) way back when - prices became a whole lot more flexible around month end or ahead of holidays! I'm from Europe originally, I don't mind haggling at all. But I understand that it is different for Americans.

[+ newatthis]

I have occasionally gotten "what did you have in mind?" I'm not a good negotiator (I'm an academic) which makes going to South American countries a trial (all that bargaining) ... but I've been very interested how I've occasionally had a guy say "$1000" for that amount of time" and I say "too much, how about $300" and he says yes. So I'm learning to negotiate

My favorite along those lines was a drop-dead gorgeous dancer at Boardwalk (long since departed) -- so gorgeous, in every way, that I found it difficult even to approach him -- who asked for $500. Me: that's way above my price range. Him: how much are you willing to pay? Me: $150. And it was a done deal. (This was an extraordinary experience in many ways. On the way to my hotel, he revealed he was straight. I suggested it might be better to turn around and take him back, to which he responded "why are you so narrow-minded?" And he was as great in bed as he was gorgeous. Ah, memories....)

[Edward]

I am always afraid if I offer less than he wants the service will not be as good. I usually just hang up. Or say it is your body and if you don't know what it is worth I am not interested.

[jawjateck]

So far, 14 years of hiring, I have never "ask"ed, when no rate information is supplied. I "X" that ad, and move on to the next one.

[imrthr]

So far, 14 years of hiring, I have never "ask"ed, when no rate information is supplied. I "X" that ad, and move on to the next one.

 

 

I feel the same as you with regard to ads that say "ask me" or words to that effect.

 

I have to wonder why there are so many ads that say "ask me" rather than state a price. It would be quite simple to state the asking price. Doing so would save both the escort and client time. There would be no time wasted in calling the escort only to ask a question that should have been included in the ad. I think it is possible that escorts do not realize the "ask me" thing causes them to lose money/clients.

 

Another reason I wonder why ads have the "ask me" nonsense is because escorts must pay to advertise on rentboy and other sites. The minimum monthly advertising cost on rentboy.com is $70.00 and that is if the escort has a "gold account" which there are only a certain number allocated to escorts monthly. The next monthly ad price is in excess of $100.00. A fairly well known escort showed me the price structure at rentboy.com. Depending if the escort gets a "gold account" or a regular account, the annual advertising costs at rentboy.com range from $900 to $1,400.

 

Considering escorts pay to advertise, they would encourage business if they stated the price in the ad.

 

Even if the escort travels to areas where higher prices are not common, the escort simply accesses his account, on line, and changes the price depending on where he will be available or working.

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[+ poolboy48220]

I am always afraid if I offer less than he wants the service will not be as good.

+1 to that.

[jawjateck]

I have no interest in hiring hourlies, but at a minimum, I expect to see that rate posted, then if I'm interested in the gentleman, I will ask his evening, or overnight rate. I love longer appointments, and the hourly rate clues me into whether he'd be worth it or not. Generally, guys who charge over 300 for the first hour are not worth the overnight price they ask.

[bigvalboy]

I have a fairly good idea what an hourly, daily, overnight, weekend rate should be, and I certainly know what I am willing to pay. "Ask Me" does not really bothered me. So I simply "ask" and as some have mentioned, if it is too high I thank them and pass. I prefer not to negotiate in that situation.....However

 

At the strip clubs, often the dancers won't really know what a good going rate is so they will say, "What do you usually pay" or "Make me an offer"...I think for a second, assess the hire, and then give them a rate that I think is more than fair. The hires with these guys are often vastly different than hiring a traditional escort, because it will often incorporate far longer periods of time, and include activities that I don't normally do with a traditional escort. The highest rate I got quoted was from a bartender. I offered 250 an hour, he said 500, I laughed, and ordered a drink. He tried to come back with a lower rate....too late!