Seriously, stop with the Atlanta hate.

[Xander]

Why do half of the reviews for Atlanta escorts seem to start, or end with something along the lines of: 'Atlanta has terrible escorts'? I find this comment negative, insulting, and degrading.

 

Some of us have worked hard to not have a reputation as a bare-backing, drug-addicted scum excuse for an escort.

 

So stop it. Please.

[Decatur Guy]

I can see why that bothers you, Xander. But the sad truth from my perspective as a client is that the city has this reputation for good reason.

 

That's not to say there aren't very notable exceptions. I have written glowing reviews for a couple of ATL-area escorts, and though I haven't connected with you, you seem like a class act, for sure. I believe you're in the minority, though.

 

I probably wouldn't even consider contacting 80% of the escorts in the ATL ads, whereas when I look at New York City or Miami or Chicago or Orlando, to name four places, I see a great percentage of ads that interest me.

 

i think the good news is a quality guy like yourself simply rises to the top that much more easily.

[Xander]

All I'm saying is, the more flak Atlanta gets for having a reputation of having low-quality escorts, the more likely its going to be that Atlanta will NEVER have great escorts, because good escorts will pass by Atlanta on their travel schedule. Its a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

Shoot, give me another year and you can bet your buttons I'll be high-tailing it out of this state. I might even be bringing a few of the other good ones with me.

 

Now, I'm not saying we need to start clapping for the escorts in Atlanta - I don't mean that at all. But if clients truly cared about the quality of escorts in a region, they'd keep their mouths shut. That, or they keep blabbing and start their own escort agency and start vetting escorts / bringing some through the area.

 

I'm directing an escort's photoshoot this weekend. Maybe you guys in Atlanta will see another young'n worth supporting in the coming weeks.

[jawjateck]

Sorry Xander that you feel the weight of the city's reputation.....it's not hate; it's just our experience. I began hiring providers in this city 13 years ago, and yes, there have been a few sporadic surprises, but the scene is sorely lacking, which is why I often have to import (escorts) or export (me) to have quality fun. Just be a good service provider, and you will distinquish yourself, and do just fine. I have actually known a few Atlanta escorts who made a good living or put themselves through school by escorting, but some of us clients feel a responsibility to the client brotherhood to report the good, even celebrate it, and to report the bad, and caution folks who don't know better. Hooboy launched this revolution, so that we would have a voice. So, we aint gonna "shut" it.

 

If you take a decade or so, hire dozens in this market, hire dozens in other markets, then tally the results. I would be interested to hear your conclusions on the entirety of the marketplace.

 

Rather than scolding clients for sharing what we have experienced, just focus on being the best Xander you can be. Clients will be drawn to you, hire you, and hire you again.

[Xander]

Rather than scolding clients for sharing what we have experienced, just focus on being the best Xander you can be. Clients will be drawn to you, hire you, and hire you again.

 

"Sharing" that 'Atlanta is a shitty city for escorts' is not beneficial to the escort/client community whatsoever. Reread: Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

This isn't about me - this is about fostering an international community.

[Frequentflier]

But if clients truly cared about the quality of escorts in a region, they'd keep their mouths shut. That, or they keep blabbing and start their own escort agency and start vetting escorts / bringing some through the area.

 

No, Xander, this isn't how things work in America. Clients have a right to express their views about an escort they've been with and YES an area as well. Keeping quiet about the overall quality of escorts in an area shouldn't discourage new escorts. If anything, it might encourage new escorts (particularly in an area as populated and likely a popular business destination) to start up there because they don't have much competition (might also mean good rates)?

 

I'm not one of those who expressed reservations about Atlanta, but I'm not keeping my mouth shut about any of my views. And you apparently haven't learned that people don't like to be told to keep their mouths shut.

 

If I go to Atlanta and have a bad experience I'll post about it. And it may or may not be expanded to include a general statement about the overall quality of escorts in that area. Members, I can specifically recall, have made comments that the pickings are slim in the Mid West and Rocky Mountain regions. Didn't hear anybody squeal.

[seeker630]

All I'm saying is, the more flak Atlanta gets for having a reputation of having low-quality escorts, the more likely its going to be that Atlanta will NEVER have great escorts, because good escorts will pass by Atlanta on their travel schedule. Its a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Shoot, give me another year and you can bet your buttons I'll be high-tailing it out of this state. I might even be bringing a few of the other good ones with me.

 

Now, I'm not saying we need to start clapping for the escorts in Atlanta - I don't mean that at all. But if clients truly cared about the quality of escorts in a region, they'd keep their mouths shut. That, or they keep blabbing and start their own escort agency and start vetting escorts / bringing some through the area.

 

I'm directing an escort's photoshoot this weekend. Maybe you guys in Atlanta will see another young'n worth supporting in the coming weeks.

 

First, I interpret the comments made thus far to mean that there aren't many quality escorts in Atlanta - i.e., it's a lousy place from clients' perspective. I would have thought that some traveling guys might see that as an opportunity.

 

Secondly, I don't see how keeping our mouth's shut about about a lack of quality will improve anything.

 

But I do think we need to be careful about making blanket remarks that tar ALL the providers. Las Vegas is another place that often is remarked upon in a negative fashion, but we know that that there are and have been some very fine guys there.

[jimboivyo]

not worth the fight xander. walk away from this. bad idea

[EZEtoGRU]

Xander had me intrigued with his first post...but his subsequent two posts lost me. I agree he should let this thread die.

[Xander]

Secondly, I don't see how keeping our mouth's shut about about a lack of quality will improve anything.

 

Unfortunately, I believe some of you do not see my argument.

 

Marketing research has proven time and time again that perceived quality has a lot to do with expectations. Making blanket statements about an entire territory (IE: Atlanta is known for having shit escorts) has a negative influence on current & future escorts, as well as future clients coming into the area. If a client reads a few reviews and sees a circle-jerk of hatred for Atlanta's escorts (on a WHOLE), how do you think that will influence his future session with an Atlanta escort?

[seeker630]

Unfortunately, I believe some of you do not see my argument.

 

Marketing research has proven time and time again that perceived quality has a lot to do with expectations. Making blanket statements about an entire territory (IE: Atlanta is known for having shit escorts) has a negative influence on current & future escorts, as well as future clients coming into the area. If a client reads a few reviews and sees a circle-jerk of hatred for Atlanta's escorts (on a WHOLE), how do you think that will influence his future session with an Atlanta escort?

 

Thanks for explaining your reasoning - and no, I didn't get that from your previous statements. I'm aware of the principle you're talking about; I'm not as certain it applies here, but I'll concede that it could.

 

As i sadi earlier, I think we should be careful of making blanket statements about an entire city or area. But if someone has multiple bad experiences, they're entitled to report that.

[Xander]

As i sadi earlier, I think we should be careful of making blanket statements about an entire city or area. But if someone has multiple bad experiences, they're entitled to report that.

 

I agree.

 

Now that at least one person understands me, I can let the thread die

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

Clients - I see Xander's point of view here. Notice, he's not disagreeing with the town's reputation, just asking for it not to be reinforced during a positive escort review.

 

Although not many Columbus Forum members post here as frequently as Atlanta members do, let me start by saying I think from a reputation perspective, neither Columbus nor Atlanta have the quantity of quality escorts clients wish existed. And in the Forum, we can sure compare the good and the bad and long for a long list of choices in our backyards.

 

However, the reviews are supposed to be about the specific escort that has been hired. Bringing the baggage of the legacy of Atlanta (or Columbus) into the equation potentially causes two unintended scenarios: (a) The reader begins reading the review in a negative mind set - - partially wondering how will this end up, but in my case usually with a bias expecting a negative outcome. Many times, I find myself stopping there. (b) When the review is good, I begin to wonder, was it as good as it sounds, or was it just average and the writer simply glad that the guy showed up showered with minty-fresh breath?

 

As I read today's review of an Atlanta escort [which I read before seeing Xander's post] which included "I was not expecting much" had me discounting the comments of the writer a little. So he was better than expected, but how would he be on my scale?

[markpaul]

I travel to Atlanta once a year on business. For the past 4 years I have spent time with Adam Kent. http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=302374 He is very well reviewed on this site. Obviously, I love to spend time with him. I also have found Jaason Topp to be great escort. http://www.men4rentnow.com/ds/search.asp?cmd=view&id=271393&Login=JaasonTopp .

[rvwnsd]

Why do half of the reviews for Atlanta escorts seem to start, or end with something along the lines of: 'Atlanta has terrible escorts'? I find this comment negative, insulting, and degrading.

 

Some of us have worked hard to not have a reputation as a bare-backing, drug-addicted scum excuse for an escort.

 

So stop it. Please.

 

I see your point. The City of Atlanta's reputation as a haven of notso-great escorts, whether or not it is deserved, is irrelevant when reviewing a particular escort. If I was writing a review of Escort A, would it make any sense to begin the review with "Escort B has a bad reputation, but I had a great time with Escort A?"

[buckguy]

I lived in ATL for 7 years and get back 1-2x /year for work. My experience with ATL based guys has been overwhelmingly negative over time. ATL, in general, seems to attract people and businesses who don't deliver when it comes to providing service, which is ironic in a city that has a service-based economy and I know that I am hardly alone in this opinion. Instead, it seems to attract more than its share of people looking to make a fast buck.

 

Perhaps things are getting better and certainly there always have been guys whoin ATL who were well reviewed, some of whom have moved elsewhere or left the busines. Unfortunately, reputations have a long life. Moreover, ATL is not the only market where escorts have had a poor reputation-Boston, DC and Chicago (in the past) come to mind. DC's saving grace long has been the large and varied numbers of visitors. If you're going to stay in ATL, your stuck with its reputation and the very real experience base (see all the other posters!) on which it's based.

[operalover21]

Why do half of the reviews for Atlanta escorts seem to start, or end with something along the lines of: 'Atlanta has terrible escorts'? I find this comment negative, insulting, and degrading.

 

Some of us have worked hard to not have a reputation as a bare-backing, drug-addicted scum excuse for an escort.

 

So stop it. Please.

 

Not sure why that would bother you. I don't know the Atlanta market. But I get to Chicago on business quite often and I think it's a terrible place for quality escorts given the size of that market. There are maybe 3 or 4 that interest me, if that. You would think there would be a lot more quality guys there. Maybe that's how people who frequent the Atlanta market feel.

[Decatur Guy]

I travel to Atlanta once a year on business. For the past 4 years I have spent time with Adam Kent. http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=302374 He is very well reviewed on this site. Obviously, I love to spend time with him. I also have found Jaason Topp to be great escort. http://www.men4rentnow.com/ds/search.asp?cmd=view&id=271393&Login=JaasonTopp .

 

I totally concur on Jaason Topp -- he KNOWS how to give a great fuck. I've also heard good things about Mr. Kent but haven't connected with him yet.

[Decatur Guy]

I've just never been one to believe turning a blind eye to any problem helps fix the problem. I do get the concept that one can get mired down in negativity, but I'm simply not buying that a few of us expressing a point of view on this forum about the general Atlanta hiring situation somehow is helping foster and solidify said situation.

 

The problem is the ads themselves. Look at them. Go through men4rentnow and rentboy and rentmen and get back to me. How many of those guys would you want coming to your hotel room or home?

 

I don't see where a campaign of general silence would somehow change the situation.

[Rick Munroe]

But if clients truly cared about the quality of escorts in a region, they'd keep their mouths shut. That, or they keep blabbing

 

Many people don't realize this, but before this website was called Daddy's Reviews (and Hooboy's Male 4 Male Escort Reviews), the original working title was: "Keep Your Mouths Shut or Keep Blabbing."

[JoeyBryant]

Why

 

...because Atlanta is the hood son. The Dirty South.

 

So we are only supposed to say positive things about the city (or keep our mouths shut) so that the escort situation will improve? If anything, a good escort would see the opportunity and clean house.

 

Not necessarily. Alot of times the local escorts (not to put down anyone) will tarnish a market so badly that even a good escort may tank after a visit. It's especially harder when people have a bad experience and hold preconceived notions about what certain escorts may be like. Places like Miami, Atlanta and Chicago come to mind. Clients get so used to bad (or lackluster) experiences that they just stop hiring locally. It's why I was surprised I didn't meet a single client in Chicago, because Chicago clients are one of the main areas where clients visit from. And it will remain that way cause I'll never waste $600 going back again. Never say never

 

ATL, in general, seems to attract people and businesses who don't deliver when it comes to providing service, which is ironic in a city that has a service-based economy and I know that I am hardly alone in this opinion. Instead, it seems to attract more than its share of people looking to make a fast buck.

 

I don't really see Atlanta as a real city. Based on it's location in the conservative backwoods, hip/hop artists made it popular but the people I've known from there just seem really cut-throat crab in bucket attitude. I have relatives there that are doing "okay" but portray this "I'm a star" impression on everyone yet let their family fall to the wayside which disgusts me.

[instudiocity]

...because Atlanta is the hood son. The Dirty South.

And Joey should know because he's a dirty hood, too? (Sarcasm)

 

Seriously, I can go to any city in the US and find something to praise and many things to trash. Areas in and around Atlanta beat the stuffing out of South LA (that's the new name for South Central LA) and when's the last time you were in the Tenderloin of San Francisco? Atlanta's Buckhead beats that hands down.

 

Seriously, stereotyping any city by what a few people want to say (negatively) about it is wrong. I'm constantly amazed as how folks who don't like to be bashed for their proclivities don't mind bashing others.

 

Has not one ever heard, "You get back what you put into things." Like if you praise someone, they'll have a positive opinion of you? Or if you trash something, you're just trashing yourself because you stooped so low as to trash it?

[ross06]

I've always had a great time with biboikevin, but he's removed his ad lately

[Nvr2Thick]

I've just never been one to believe turning a blind eye to any problem helps fix the problem. I do get the concept that one can get mired down in negativity, but I'm simply not buying that a few of us expressing a point of view on this forum about the general Atlanta hiring situation somehow is helping foster and solidify said situation.

 

The problem is the ads themselves. Look at them. Go through men4rentnow and rentboy and rentmen and get back to me. How many of those guys would you want coming to your hotel room or home?

 

I don't see where a campaign of general silence would somehow change the situation.

 

I don't think anyone's asking us to turn a blind eye or start a campaign of general silence. It's about reviewing the escort not the city itself. I don't know whether it will solve any problem, but it is tiresome and cliche to hear these general statements about cities such as Atlanta as part of an escort review. For me, they're just comments to skip over on my way to the (hopefully) good stuff.

 

Also IMO, I think that forum discussion topics about cities that have lousy reps for escorts will shake loose a few good recommendations. Generalized comments about the escort population within a review don't provide the same opportunity for discussion.

[kjun]

I understand your point and suggest that you develop a harder "shell". Some of the guys on here are rough in their comments but this is a review site and they have their opinions. You will just have to live with them. Sorry you were hurt by the comments about Atlanta. If you want to see some rougher comments, look at what is said about New Orleans.