Drug Resistant Disease Spreads by Dancing

[+ Lucky]

Here is the profile of a San Francisco escort. Party and play? Decide for yourself!

 

 

Occupation : Student

Height : 6' 1" (185 cm)

Body Type : Defined

Ethnic Origins : Asian

Hair Color : Black

Eye Color : Brown

Scene : Casual

Out : Yes

Dick Size : Rather not say

Cut/Uncut : Cut

Body Hair : Rather not say

Orientation : Gay

Role : Versatile

Practise Safer Sex : Rather not Say

Smoke : No

Drink : No

Drugs : Rather not say

[phage]

I don’t get it. It says they party and play AND dance close. Wouldn’t it be more likely that it’s the PnP rather than the dancing that is spreading the infection?

 

BTW, what exactly is a staph infection?

[eastbayguy]

Hi,

 

>BTW, what exactly is a staph infection?

 

Staphylococcus aureus, a bacteria.

 

Staph infections are among the most common infections. Among other things, one of the more common types of food poisoning is staph based. S. aureus is commonly found in the lower colon of humans. Some version of S. aureus spreading by barebackers, PnPers and others is not awfully surprising.

 

So wash up after sex.

 

--EBG

[Barry]

>BTW, what exactly is a staph infection?

 

http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87%257E2425%257E1161882,00.html?search=filter

[phage]

Thanks to you both. I knew it sounded familiar and the article cleared it up. Breakouts at hospitals.

[Barry]

>Thanks to you both. I knew it sounded familiar and the

>article cleared it up. Breakouts at hospitals.

 

Yes, for years staph infections, specifically from MRSA have been limited to hospitals and prisons. The important point here is that MRSA has left the hospital and entered the community.

 

Small clusters have been reported not only in a few gay communities but also at several military bases and among the team athletes in a couple of schools. In the gay community concern seems to center around the baths and gyms. All places with close skin contact and a warm moist environment.

 

Barry

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>In the gay community

>concern seems to center around the baths and gyms. All places

>with close skin contact and a warm moist environment.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the cases coming from gyms turn out to be spread mostly in the steamrooms -- where there's not only close skin contact and a warm moist environment, but a limited ability to see sores/boils on whomever you're rubbing up against. I've never been a big fan of steamrooms anyway, and it doesn't look like that's going to be changing anytime soon... :o

[+ glutes]

>Hi,

>

>>BTW, what exactly is a staph infection?

>

>Staphylococcus aureus, a bacteria.

>

 

>

>So wash up after sex.

>

>--EBG

 

 

Call me Auntie Spetic, but you should wash up BEFORE and AFTER sex!!

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Disease Spreads by Dancing

 

PNP refers to want to use drugs while using sex, generally crystal meth ("tina") although sometimes other drugs.

 

"late night dance parties" presumably means events such as regular after hour dancing parties, where there is no alcohol but often drug use, including other "party" drugs. I assume it is also a reference to circuit parties.

 

Barebacking means anal sex without a condom but properly also includes anything considered high risk sex.

 

High risk sex is, as the name implies, a way to risk various consquences, from treatable STD's to untreatable ones.

 

Reports from more reputable sources that Dr. Katz have indicated that where this resistent strain is being passed along through contact that is not primarily sexual in origin, is where the participants have a compromised immune system.

 

We are all exposed to any number of bacterias in our day to day life, by simple acts we take for granted, such as shopping (the passing of bills and coins between individuals) or riding in an elevator or car with others (close although not skin to skin proximity). People with immune systems which are not functioning at their highest level are more prone to be victims of this bacterium.

 

The other thing I wish to suggest from this post is that not everyone who does drugs has unsafe sex, that not everyone who goes to late night dances or circuit parties has high risk sex, or uses recreational drugs and that guys bareback every day without using drugs or going to dance parties.

 

One plus two does not equal four. . . .

[IM_Moore]

>A drug resistant staph infection currently spreading rapidly

>among gay men in Los Angeles and San Francisco can be spread

>"by real close dancing" according to SF city Health Director

>Mitchell Katz. The doctor believes that gay men who party and

>play "and is(are) doing real close dancing" are at higher risk

>of being infected.

 

Isn't this what they use to say about AIDS/HIV near the onset of the epidemic (sans the dancing)? Pretty soon gay people will not be able to even touch themselves without fear of developing some life threatening disease.

 

This is a very sad situation. And I feel we are only at the begining.

[Guest fukamarine]

>Here is the profile of a San Francisco escort. Party and

>play? Decide for yourself!

 

>Body Hair : Rather not say

 

Why would anyone answer "Rather not say" to a question of body hair? What's the big deal about that?

 

fukamarine

[Guest]

>Hi,

>

>>BTW, what exactly is a staph infection?

>

>Staphylococcus aureus, a bacteria.

>

>Staph infections are among the most common infections. Among

>other things, one of the more common types of food poisoning

>is staph based. S. aureus is commonly found in the lower

>colon of humans. Some version of S. aureus spreading by

>barebackers, PnPers and others is not awfully surprising.

>

>So wash up after sex.

>

>--EBG

 

Staphylococcus aureus generally lives in peoples' noses and armpits (and groins), not in the colon. It does cause food poisoning, most often when the food preparer scratches his nose (or you can imagine where else) and doesn't wash his hands immediately after. In this case, though, the food has to be out a while, since it's not the bacteria themselves which cause the food poisoning, but rather the toxins they produce after growing on the food for a while. A classic example is potato salad at a picnic.

Invasive Staph disease (i.e. abscesses, as opposed to toxigenic Staph disease from the potato salad) generally occurs only when skin has been broken by a needle, scalpel, knife, etc., or in people who are immune-supressed or otherwise debilitated. I doubt if most people have to worry about developing MRSA abscesses from close dancing. Maybe from rough sex...

Even if MRSA can produce toxigenic disease (i.e. food poisoning), this would not be of any special concern, since the bacteria are dead by the time they reach the stomach (although the toxins can even survive cooking).

[+ Lucky]

He won't say about his body hair or his dick size, but his pix show about 6 inches and a very smooth body. If they are his pix.

[+ Lucky]

It certainly does give me memories of San Francisco in 1982. It is so amazing to me that those horrible days are not a stronger deterrent to barebackers.

As far as Mitchell Katz, I think he is prone to overstatement, so I focused my post on his more ludicrous statement about dancing. Nonetheless, the issue is serious and I doubt that only those with compromised immune systems are at risk. When Kaposi Sarcoma first appeared, people were making all kinds of guesses as to why, and why it wouldn't happen to them. They were wrong.

[Cooper]

Lucky, Thanks for being the first one to bring this alarming news to our attention. "PnP" and it's risks has taken on a whole new meaning, hopefully, more research is being done on what causes it, how it's spread, and how it can be treated. Thanks for this most informative thread.

[+ Lucky]

A drug resistant staph infection currently spreading rapidly among gay men in Los Angeles and San Francisco can be spread "by real close dancing" according to SF city Health Director Mitchell Katz. The doctor believes that gay men who party and play "and is(are) doing real close dancing" are at higher risk of being infected. How close the dancing must be to transmit the disease has not been determined.

The "party and play" term usually refers to drug users and barebackers who attend late night dance events. Speculation is that the disease may also be transmitted by visiting health clubs, steam rooms and any warm, enclosed environment.

The news is particularly disheartening when related to another article quoting the program director of the Stop Aids Project that "there is a growing pervasive sense that if you are gay and live in San Francisco, you will become positive. That becomes a self-fulfilling promise."

In the party and play crowd, 67% of bottoms surveyed did NOT use condoms.

Check the current issue of the Bay Area Reporter for more information.

[trilingual]

          

The articles I've seen about this since I got back from Brazil report outbreaks in a number of cities, including S.F., L.A. and N.Y. These infections are appearing in men who are HIV-negative as well as positive. Of course, someone who's positive is likely to be at higher risk of complications from such an infection.

 

Staph infections that cause boils evidently can be transmitted by close contact (i.e., skin-to-skin). Years ago I spent Carnival in Florianopolis (Brazil) with a hot boyfriend. We spent a lot of time together in close contact, as we were sleeping in the same bed. During our stay he developed a painful boil along his Speedo waist line. He had it lanced at a local health clinic and was given some antibiotics to take and it seemed to clear up. Weeks later, after I had returned to the U.S., I developed a boil on my side and ended up having to get antibiotics myself. It cleared up fairly quickly, but it came back a couple of times in the same spot (requiring more antibiotics) before disappearing for good. Prior to this I'd never had a boil (nor have I had a recurrence), so I can only conclude that somehow I picked up the infection from my partner. For what it's worth, my partner learned shortly after all of this that he was HIV-positive. I'm HIV-negative. But in both cases antibiotics cleared up our infections.

 

The idea of drug-resistant staph is scary; it's a nasty infection and can have very serious consequences. However, I hope the experience recounted above doesn't scare anyone away from visiting Brazil. This incident occurred at least ten years ago, and it's never recurred. Most Brazilians are fanatically hygienic, showering several times a day, which undoubtedly minimizes the risk of infection. At the saunas, the guys are constantly in and out of the showers, and just about everyone showers immediately before and after using the steam baths and dry saunas. The sauna staff are also constantly cleaning and disinfecting, so all in all they've been a pretty safe environment. Good hygiene is a good preventative anywhere, not just in Brazil, so practice it to protect yourself from skin infections.

[Fit In LA]

The message here is to practice safe sex and don't expose yourself to skin contact with strangers in steamrooms, etc.

[IM_Moore]

>The message here is to practice safe sex and don't expose

>yourself to skin contact with strangers in steamrooms, etc.

>

u think so ? u are so brilliant ?

[trilingual]

Well, that's not MY message. My partner and I did practice safe sex, and I didn't have any direct contact with his boil, as far as I know. Yet I still developed one myself. Although you should ALWAYS practice safe sex to avoid HIV and other STD's, it doesn't seem to make any difference when it comes to staph infections. Lots of soap and water, as often as possible, seems to be the best preventive.

 

As for the saunas, I've been going to them for more than 20 years, and the only thing I've ever picked up there (at least I THINK that's where I picked it up) is the occasional case of athlete's foot. Fortunately, that doesn't seem to have become drug-resistant, and can be avoided by applying some anti-fungal powder or ointment after your visit to the baths.

[Luv2play]

Tri, Your post reminded me of the practice in Brazilian saunas of being required to wear floppies in all the common areas. This was the first country where I saw this altho in European saunas quite a few guys also wear foot protection in places like Switzerland and Germany where there is a high level of hygiene practices. Now here in Ft Lauderdale is another situation completely. At the local sauna the other day, I saw a guy in the sauna and steamroom areas walking about in his STREET SHOES! I was aghast. I mentionned it to the desk clerk and was told people could wear whatever they chose to on their feet. Well considering that street shoes come into contact with such things as dog shit and the like, I decided I would wear floppies in the future. BTW I find it amusing Americans get very uptight about all sorts of bacteria then you see what actually goes down in daily practice.:7