Steven Draker - Vote of Confidence

[jawjateck]

I just scan this board from time to time, not reading every post, not following all the subplots or hidden agendas. I certainly have no desire to retrace all of this mess.

 

My latest review of Mr. Draker was just posted and a scandal erupts concerning him. Having met him and enjoyed his company, I wouldn't hesitate to see him again. Whatever his errors in this alter reality (of which, I confess that I'm not sure what they are), I met him in reality, and I am very satisfied with who he is and what he offers.

 

Steven....Go through life, fail, learn, be a better man, and then you really live. :-)

[whipped guy]

We all make blunders in life… and at times make the wrong choices.

 

We should not make excuses for our actions, but rather consider them to be learning experiences through which we can expand and broaden our horizons... and in the process earnestly endeavor to grow as and individual and gain knowledge from our mistakes and misdeeds.

[uwsman2]

What scandal? What thread is it under? I've met Steven on two occasions, had a wonderful time both times, and consider him one of the most mature and reliable escorts I've ever met, as well as being a totally hot man. So I'm puzzled by this reference.

[+ purplekow]

there is a rather convoluted drama that can best be briefly reviewed under the heading of escort on escort violence. In short, Steven used the pseudonym IceFireWizard to attack in writing on this board several other persons. Scott Adler has subsequently unmasked the Wizard and frivolity has ensued.

[+ glutes]

Great melodrama.

However Mr. Draker is (used to be?) a great escort, I simply cannot afford his prices anymore!

[Okliehomo]

I haven't posted in awhile, but like you, JJT, I do still read some of the threads. I was very surprised to read Adler's post about Draker. I have only met SD twice, but I found him to be one of the most sincere and likeable guys that I have ever met. Otherwise, I would never have had him back a second time. I rarely go back to the well unless the guy is someone really special. And in my opinion, SD is just that. With me anyway; very upfront and honest and very sweet. While I did enjoy his body very much, I was also really touched by him as a man and his whole approach to his life and his seemingly genuine interest in mine. An act? Maybe. Part of his job? No doubt. But there are lots of guys out there (and I have met alot of them) who cannot even begin to presume to be in SD's league when it comes to his professionalism and real class and his ability to please the client.

 

When I hire, I don't want conversation or a pal or a moral compass. I want a perfect muscle butt. If I happen to get more than that, like with Draker, (and Ty and Alencar and Mark and Marco Ferreti)..... then, well, that's just an added bonus.

 

I would hire him again.

 

Okie

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Hindsight is 20/20. Somewhat.

 

I posted up a response to the 'Steven Draker/IFW' issue in the The Lounge the other day, saying that, yes, while escorts can be hyper-competitive with eachother at times, we're usually a pretty good bunch of guys. That i still agree with.

 

In seeing how the thread has progressed, it's obvious that there are many who would rather just see Steven pack up his bags and high-tail it back to Europe. His apology, no matter how sincere or forced it may have seemed, wasn't enough for some people. He went out on a limb (imo) and tried to make amends for what he felt he did wrong. I find that action not only honorable, but heartfelt. On a board where speculation exists as sometime truth, Steven stepped up to the plate in taking blame for what happened.

 

Escorts take undue, unfair and blatant bullshit criticism on a daily basis. I'm not saying it's right, but it's just the way things are right now in an unregulated and illigitimate industry. You learn to have a tough outer shell and let things roll off your back, because if you don't, you'll spend all of your time defending yourself and worrying about what everyone thinks of you. That's not living life. That's a prison cell.

 

I find it easier for me to simply ignore those who flame me online, as most of them have never met me and never will. I know who i am: I always have. What's just as important is that my guys know who i am too. It's become easy to ignore detractors when you begin feeling sorry for them. The more they spread their malicious lies, the more i'm glad i'm actually living my life.

 

I'm sorry for what happened to you Scott/Rick: You guys, nor anyone else, deserved to get blind-sided by IFW. I hope you can put aside any continued anger you feel for Steven and just let this one pass.

 

 

'To err is human...'

 

 

 

Benjamin

[+ Tygerscent]

Hey Oklie! I just stopped in to this thread cause I saw you had posted something. Very nice of you to mention my butt and all! Thanks! There's always a special place for you there! ;-)

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[Lankypeters]

I suppose it's disappointing that Steven invented a persona.

 

But I just don't get it -- why does this guy bring down so much sniping? I've seen him a few times. He's very pleasant, hot to look at and great fun to be with -- he delivers all he promises. He's fully satisfying -- and I'm always fully satisfied.

 

So why not leave it at that?

 

 

 

 

Lankypeters

[Guest PWIT]

>I'm sorry for what happened to you Scott/Rick: You guys, nor

>anyone else, deserved to get blind-sided by IFW. I hope you

>can put aside any continued anger you feel for Steven and just

>let this one pass.

 

Make-up sex can be really hot! How's that for an alternate idea? :+

[whipped guy]

Re: I want a perfect muscle butt. If I happen to get more than that, like with... Mark..... then, well, that's just an added bonus.

 

Okie... I always enjoy your posts... glad you are "OK"...

 

Now I am curious... which Mark are you referring to... Thanks.

[Guest alanm]

>I suppose it's disappointing that Steven invented a persona.

>

>

>But I just don't get it -- why does this guy bring down so

>much sniping? I've seen him a few times. He's very pleasant,

>hot to look at and great fun to be with -- he delivers all he

>promises. He's fully satisfying -- and I'm always fully

>satisfied.

>

>So why not leave it at that?

 

>Lankypeters

 

No doubt the subject has been discussed to death, especially with the long arguments between RockHard and Scott Adler (whom I like).

 

Bottom line: Draker created a new stage name on this site which he used (at times) to critize other escorts. While Draker did eventually apologize, it still seems like a major error in judgment on his part -- can not blame any escort who is angry at him.

[+ bigjoey]

last month i did an overnight with SD in atlanta. i found him everything that was advertised and more. he delivered all that i expected. he was professional in setting up the appointment and was a fantasy come true. i would definately hire him again. i did not do a review as i felt i could add nothing to the dozens of rave reviews. so as an escort, he is a "10". he has it all: looks, personality, sexual skills and an ability to make you feel you are special.

 

i can not imagine why he bothered knocking another escort as SD is in a class at the very top of the profession. however, he did it and apologized. it is now time to move on and everyone stop being a bunch of busy queens. i was shocked to discover steven had a flaw and was not totally perfect. however, i believe in the power of forgiviness.

 

for those men here who would have hired SD before this event, go ahead and hire him if you want a great time with a fabulous escort who will deliver on his promised fantasy of sexual delight. just know now that like the rest of us, he is human and not perfect. he may charge a little more than some others but the quality of the services is more than high enough to make up for the cost difference.

 

i would hire him again.

[SAdler]

>I'm sorry for what happened to you Scott/Rick: You guys, nor

>anyone else, deserved to get blind-sided by IFW. I hope you

>can put aside any continued anger you feel for Steven and just

>let this one pass.

 

It seems that people appear to be missing my comment in the initial response to Steven. At first I thought it was just the one person being antagonistic but it appears to not be the case or I didn't make it as clear as I thought I had.

 

I appreciate and accept Steven's apology and am definitely on the road to forgiveness as blue drinks tend to make everyone friends again. The only thing that people are misconstruing as holding a grudge is my question for clarification.

 

Why did he feel the need to do these things ... that's all I've been focused on. You're right Ben, one does have to shield themelves from attacks and be used to it but I'd hate to have to start using The Art of War as a guide to life.

 

"You know who your enemies are so watch out for your friends."

 

Like someone said below, they'd understand me not being quick to forgive. I've learned it's easier to be friends with someone than to hodl a grudge, there's far less effort involved.

 

The only time I hold grudges and the like is when it's principle based or I feel that I can't trust someone. So again to clarify, Steven I do forgive you and appreciate your apology ... I just kind of wanted to understand why a little bit more. Obviously it's up to you if you wanted to delve into it.

[SMILE]

Extremely well put, Ben!

 

This matter seems to have gotten well out of hand. Was Steven wrong -- clearly yes. He was 'outed' and is paying the price (a heavy one, I might add). He did apologize, and while it is being lively debated on whether it was sincere enough, or there were too many excuses or not, I think he has learned his lesson.

 

Scott, Rick -- while I haven't met you (but I'd like to!), you seem to be pretty classy guys. It's probably the time to accept Steven's apology (and you'll know whether he learned his lesson by his future actions) and turn your efforts to something more productive. I've met Steven before, and he seemed to be the 'class act' professional that many have talked about both now and over the years. Let's give him a chance.

 

Peace!

[SMILE]

Scott,

 

I understand your desire to 'understand just a little bit more', but that might well be very personal and, perhaps, even painful to put forth in such a public manner as this thread. If he decides to share any more, I would expect Steven to do it personally and that that should be respected. After all, we all don't need to be privy to everything.

 

Best,

[SAdler]

I completely agree ... that's all I was waiting for ... hence my generalized announcement of forgiveness

 

But I see what you're saying ... I should have just openly forgave him and then private asked him for clarification. I guess it was just because of the others involved I kept it in the public forum and that was probably my mistake.

[SMILE]

I think you're on the right track . . . you are a classy guy (and now I want to meet you even more!)

 

Best!

[Rick Munroe]

>I'm sorry for what happened to you Scott/Rick: You guys, nor

>anyone else, deserved to get blind-sided by IFW. I hope you

>can put aside any continued anger you feel for Steven and just

>let this one pass.

 

>Scott, Rick -- while I haven't met you (but I'd like to!), you

>seem to be pretty classy guys. It's probably the time to

>accept Steven's apology (and you'll know whether he learned

>his lesson by his future actions) and turn your efforts to

>something more productive.

 

Hey guys, just for the record: I neither asked for, expected, nor wanted an apology, and I never expressed or felt any anger. I don't have anything to move on to (or from) because I was never stuck there in the first place! And I certainly don't wish Mr. Draker to lose any business (how would that benefit me?). Yes, I thought that what he did was jerky, and I was glad when he decided to come clean, and I did think blaming it all on "work stress" was silly, but it was over for me right there (by "over," I mean the mystery, not the anger, because as I said, there wasn't any anger, and if anyone keeps telling me I'm full of anger, I'll have to sic Derek on them...capisce?)

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..Time to Move On..

 

I'm sure we all have learned something from this! :P

[Okliehomo]

Thanks, Whipped. I always look for your posts as well especially when it comes to the whole spanking thing. My only real regret about my hiring days is that I missed out on Reece. Anyway, the Mark I am referring to his Mark #3 out of Chicago. Truly, one of the classiest and hottest men that I have had the pleasure of meeting. Model looks in the face and a sweet, smooth, pornstar muscle ass. With abit of a nasty side.

 

Okie

[Lankypeters]

>..capisce?)

>

>

Does that mean "wanna fuck?" in Italian?

 

Lankypeters

[Guest TBinCHI]

Will you sic Derek on me anyhow?

 

I can vouch for Rick's claim that he had no axe to grind with Mr. Draker. Interestingly enough, I had just completed a private email exchange with Rick when this controversy erupted. I had said some very flattering things about Steven to Rick and he had every opportunity to say something negative in response. Instead, Rick's response was professional and polite. He did say, however, that he thought Derek's ass was prettier, but until I can do a side-by-side comparison, I'm not getting involved in that debate!

[whipped guy]

Re: With a bit of a nasty side.

 

Okie... Thanks, you are indeed an "OK" guy!

 

I was hoping that you were referring to Mark number 3, I've had my eye on him for a while... and especially since he posted his new photo with those awesome muscular thighs! However, while I am looking for an excuse to visit the Windy City it ain't gonna happen for a while and certainly not during the Winter months... I like warmth! So please don't send any of the nasty weather that has recently been making its way through Oklahoma my drection! And speaking of nasty, I never realized that Mark had a "nasty side"... I see some possibilities there!

[whipped guy]

I think that we all just learned something about human nature… its foibles and its pinnacles.

 

When I first came to this board, it was immediately obvious that Steven was one of the most professional and gifted participants, a veritable class act if there ever was one and someone that was instantly recognized as being congenial and affable.

 

Now it also became immediately evident that when IceFireWizard began posting he would not exactly fall into that same “likable” category.

 

Now we find out that they are one and the same…

 

All of us have a dark side. Hopefully it is a side that is very seldom revealed… but it is unfortunately a “universal” in the human psyche in varying degrees. It is one of the struggles that challenges humanity… respectability, decency, and propriety versus malice, malevolence, and ill will.

 

This is a scuffle that man has had to grapple with since the beginning of time… it deals with the innards of one’s soul… the essence of one’s character.

 

We all make choices and then have to live with the ramifications of those choices… Hopefully this “minuscule incident in the larger scheme of things” will help all of us make better choices. Optimistically it will become something we can derive some benefit from so that we will all be able to move ahead with and live our lives in peace and harmony. Idealistically this should be the goal… being practical and pragmatic… I know that such will never be he case…

 

However, it seems worthy of one’s efforts to try and make it happen… as we move on…