Providers altering travel plans, leaving you w/ blue balls.

[viewing ownly]

Many of us have our favorites with guys who come to our region on an annual basis or sometimes more frequently, and we eagerly anticipate those times. 

I've been noticing lately with guys that used to come to Las Vegas are now intentionally skipping it with their travel plans. I shouldn't be surprised, as they'll mention how disappointing their trip ends up being a financial waste, with too many no-shows and cheapskates. 

Recent case in point is a guy I just love who comes from Boston. He'd split time between Vegas and Phoenix, but this year is just staying in Phoenix double the time and avoiding Vegas altogether, mentioning to me he gets consistent great clientele in Arizona. 

Men who do this for many years are well aware of cities that are wastelands (Omaha), and cities that may surprise where they do really well (Albuquerque). It sucks for me that Vegas has turned into another Omaha.

[Whoisyourdaddy]

These canceling shenanigans are notorious in Vegas. I assume some of them are trying to drum up business for their OFs and other adult media. They're picking multiple cities at once with no intention of ever arriving. Some of them might be fishing for business. If they don't get enough interest, they find another city.

A few providers told me that Vegas has a high number of flaky clientele because they tend to be gamblers. Some nights, gamblers are loaded; other nights, not so much.

[nomad]

Vegas is a mirage.  With the millions and millions of visitors it should be a gold mine.  Most say its a complete waste of their time.  Tons of time wasters who never end up meeting.  Everyone asking for discounts and being hustled.  The days when Vegas was a cheap trip are long gone.  Prices on the strip can be steep.  No shortage of bad food/service for a pretty penny.  Not that surprising guys don't return after their first visit for work.

[JB_Studio38]

6 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

Men who do this for many years are well aware of cities that are wastelands (Omaha), and cities that may surprise where they do really well (Albuquerque). It sucks for me that Vegas has turned into another Omaha.

I’m laughing at this comparison (although I get how you mean). Having been to both Vegas and Omaha multiple times: they are nothing alike lol.

For one, Vegas Ads are consistently thick with dozens of providers year around. Omaha, does not. Vegas also attracts tourists from all around, whereas Omaha is more like the regional tourists from Iowa/the Dakotas, etc. 

Believe it or not, I think Omaha is a better example of a city than Vegas lol. However the weather in Omaha gets so crazy, between giant hail storms and blizzards: Not enough gays with money find it an attractive resort location. However Omaha isn’t the wasteland you’d think it is. It just seems that way in comparison to the more crowded markets.

The reality is, a lot of those “in demand/buyer’s market” gay cities like Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville, Dallas, Chicago, Las Vegas, California (although Cali is technically a country of its own): all those cities are so ran thru, it’s hard to make any fast money in those places unless you lucky to be able to stay there long enough to build regulars or a specific “sugar” guy. 

I’ve gone to so many of those cities and waited for days on end for a booking, whereas I can go to somewhere like Omaha and have my time accounted for a couple days. At not nearly the cost of some of the other cities

 

6 hours ago, Whoisyourdaddy said:

These canceling shenanigans are notorious in Vegas. I assume some of them are trying to drum up business for their OFs and other adult media. They're picking multiple cities at once with no intention of ever arriving. Some of them might be fishing for business. If they don't get enough interest, they find another city.

A few providers told me that Vegas has a high number of flaky clientele because they tend to be gamblers. Some nights, gamblers are loaded; other nights, not so much.

I can’t speak for Vegas specifically or anyone else who tours there: but for me I do the same, advertising in multiple cities. RentMen does allow up to 12 travel locations on the new platform version. 6 cities “nearby” (a 200-300 mile range) and 6 that one can put travel dates for. Equals 13 if include the current location. I definitely take full advantage of that.

The issue I see is, too many clients see the ads and assume it means instant availability. Or people expect us to have travel plans before we’ve even been able to finance it. 
 

I actually do try to 99% of time visit all the cities I advertise in. But in some cases, the commute to get there is too far and not as many want to book in advance like it used to be. Even if I get 5 clients hitting me up asking if I’m available “today”, that doesn’t help if I’m trying to plan the city 2-3 weeks from now and it’s 1,000 miles away. I tried that with Buffalo, and not enough were willing to schedule ahead, so I had to bin the trip a couple times. Maybe this year I’ll make it work finally.
 

Something with the escort travel system needs to change. I’ve had to say everything from “dates in my ad are openings/flexible” to “all travel cities require confirmed clients”, but few really seem to notice or understand it. 
 

I was just talking to a client today who: I been suggesting he book me a day in advance. However he was only able to do same day appointments a few hours in advance. We finally got to meet but, I was running like an hour behind the time I was aiming for. 

Getting ready can suck up so much time. Some will reach out less than 24 hours notice in some cities, and expect on time with a limited window. It’s not always possible. I tried to reschedule one guy who wanted to meet basically “before 3 p.m. the next day” in a city that was 5.5 hours away from me. 

Although I was planning the city anyway for other requests, hotels may or may not allow check in before 3 p.m. Many are also charging $25-$50 early check in fees. I also didn’t want to have to leave at night to get there early, because I’m hating driving more than a couple hours in the dark anymore. Dude gets pissed off at me, and I’m like dude: my ad states what my in-call hours are. Sometimes I can flex it, other times it’s too much trouble to make happen if they can’t be flexible.

It just makes the whole touring/travel thing a headache sometimes. That’s why nowadays I mainly only go to cities where I know I have friends, crushes, or specific clients as main purpose. Then I can incorporate other bookings once I’m there. I don’t like playing the gamble game and thinking if I spend $XXX amount on hotels for 2-3 days, I can recoup that money back AND make a profit. Because it doesn’t always happen, and it may require staying longer than 2-3 days to do it. 
 

I did a trip to San Diego couple years back, I had to stay for a week before I even booked my first two clients. I only managed to stay because I had friend’s place to stay: but in the past I’ve gone to cities and left within a day or 2 if there’s nothing but flakes and no money coming in.

Edited Tuesday at 09:56 AM by JB_Studio38

[Jeff224]

That's too bad. I wish something can be done to these guys who cancel and give their client blue balls

It can be exciting at first when you're expecting someone, the lust, blood rushing through your veins fast and some wild expectations just for the other party to cancel. I would be furious if that happen to me

[mtaabq]

@JB_Studio38, thank you for your perspective. Very interesting to read the other side of the debate. 

[+ PhileasFogg]

I suppose if you’re a visiting provider in a big tourist town, you’re looking for the convergence of good client opportunities in the little slice of time you’re there.    Locals have regulars and finding that convergence with visitors is a crap shoot.

Smaller markets have quality clients planted firmly who are looking for quality talent 

Edited Tuesday at 12:17 PM by PhileasFogg

[+ SirBillybob]

Surprised and sympathetic. I’d have thought that decent trade was merely a local phone call away from The Luxor.

Edited Tuesday at 01:18 PM by SirBillybob

[+ Pensant]

Maybe it’s me, but I hope I never see Vegas again. I hate gambling and crowds.

[mtaabq]

30 minutes ago, Pensant said:

Maybe it’s me, but I hope I never see Vegas again. I hate gambling and crowds.

It is no longer my “go-to” for a cheap mid-week escape. Too many properties are nickel-&-dining to death. Still a lot of quality providers and great places to eat, but the vibe has deteriorated. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

38 minutes ago, Pensant said:

Maybe it’s me, but I hope I never see Vegas again. I hate gambling and crowds.

I've never been and have no intention of going. I loathe gambling, and it seems to attract the type of people I live in NYC to avoid. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

4 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

The issue I see is, too many clients see the ads and assume it means instant availability. Or people expect us to have travel plans before we’ve even been able to finance it. 

If you're advertising to come to my city but really have no intention of coming, unless three other guys and I book you, knowing that would lead me to block you. 

[JB_Studio38]

 

On 6/9/2026 at 4:52 AM, Jeff224 said:

That's too bad. I wish something can be done to these guys who cancel and give their client blue balls

It can be exciting at first when you're expecting someone, the lust, blood rushing through your veins fast and some wild expectations just for the other party to cancel. I would be furious if that happen to me

Let’s also not forget the clients who do the same thing to providers also on a regular basis. Like this one client who been trying to schedule but has been so unreliable and full of shit. What makes so bad is he did show up once before, but that’s the problem sometimes: these guys show up once but then turn into an asshole: case in point from this message: 

 

 

And it’s these same time of clients who don’t want to send a deposit, yet they can’t be reliable to show up in the first damn place. Like he was already playing on my Grindr previously. I told him now don’t contact me again if you can’t text me directly. And then going to try and gaslight me into thinking it’s not him who’s full of shit at this point. He just fucking cancelled today saying his schedule got mixed up and that (no lie) his buddy wants to hookup again smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ then you going to come around and say I was hard to pin down?

So I can probably see why some escorts would cancel a trip. Maybe out of spite. I know I don’t like dealing with this kind of stupidity while already having overheads to deal with.

But jokes on him because I already had 2 other clients show up, and a 3rd one on the way. I wish they would take their stupid games somewhere else, far away from escort/masseur sites. Like a discussion happening on another site. Like how they trying to have sex with AND get on our bad side at the same time 🤦🏽‍♂️ 

Edited 2 hours ago by JB_Studio38

[StarQualityLuke]

Main factors in travelling.  The price of gas these days for one, and another the cost of the hotel.   When we travel, we aim for profit, not to break even.  I would hope clients would understand that.    The Fall is best, hotels are not as high in price, as in the Summer.