BrandinHawk - avoid at all cost

[OvrwghtQT]

19 minutes ago, d.anders said:

Ever had an anoscopy? How much do you respect your doctor, or yourself? If the expected massage is sensual, I would think it common sense to be as clean as possible. No different than a scheduled hook-up. I don't go to a sensual massage appointment without douching first, just in case the guy wants to play. I'm not the type to request things. I like the mystery, and I don't care about sex, as long as the massage is good.

Comparing a massage only session to an anoscopy — a medical procedure. OMG. I’ve never had a massage from an RM provider and would never do it after reading this thread. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, d.anders said:

Last but not least, I'm dead on arrival with certain foul odors. Some men never learn how to properly clean themselves, and I'm talking every orifice. What is a service provider supposed to do in these unfortunate circumstances?

THIS is very true. 

I've have been around the hook up scene, for many years...so have been with MANY, many men. There were definitely moments where I questioned what sort of dirty trailer park these guys grew up in. It's shocking, the number of grown men out there, who don't know the basic rules of hygiene.

[d.anders]

4 hours ago, OvrwghtQT said:

Comparing a massage only session to an anoscopy — a medical procedure. OMG.

I wasn't comparing. You missed the point. Also, a regular massage is nowhere near the same thing as a sensual one. If the customer has any desire for sex during a sensual massage -- I don't care how little or how much sex -- then it's incumbent on him to not only respect himself, but to respect the provider as well. This really is simple courtesy.

4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I've have been around the hook up scene, for many years...so have been with MANY, many men. There were definitely moments where I questioned what sort of dirty trailer park these guys grew up in. It's shocking, the number of grown men out there, who don't know the basic rules of hygiene.

I have two very close friends, hot guys, who have been sexually charged and active for longer than 30 years. On game night, when the subject comes to hygiene among men, boy do they have some stories. I find it shocking, too. How can any gay man be so dense and out of touch?

[SecretProvider]

11 hours ago, Luv2play said:

you lost me when you complained about the smell of precum.

read again. 

13 hours ago, SecretProvider said:

the smell of shit, ball sweat and pre-cum is not a pleasant aroma for the best of us.

I think you are missing the vital word of "AND" in my sentence. The word AND is added to show that I was describing a THE MIXTURE OF ALL THREE SMELLS.  My bad if that was not clear. 🤮 Next time you are sucking someone off who hasn't wiped their ass properly and been sweating all day, get back to me and let me know how much you enjoyed it.  It is very different from sucking a nice fresh clean one, I assure you. 

7 hours ago, OvrwghtQT said:

If this is what you require for a massage only session, I don’t want to know what you require for a full escort session. 

I'm sorry someone has had to explain how to wash yourself properly as a way of good manners before you are going to be intimate with them. Like I said, it is difficult to do without offending. My apologues you are offended by this. 

But I can answer your question about what I hope my clients do before a full escort session = showering as described above, with the additional step of douching. I certainly do, but I also wear deodorant, cologne, moisturize, put product in my hair, shave, add fresh bed sheets and towels, and tidy the apartment/hotel if I am hosting. 

11 hours ago, Luv2play said:

crazy you sound like one.

You sound like someone who doesn't wipe their ass properly - god knows why else you would be defending this behavior. Madness. I hope you brush your teeth daily. 

I am actually shocked that it seems controversial to arrive properly cleaned to a session where you are going to be intimate with someone. The push back here is baffling. But once again - some guys are oblivious. 

Please shower throughly beforehand people, your provider will thank you and you will have a better experience as a result. What a crazy thing to have to explain to people. Sigh. 

[OvrwghtQT]

32 minutes ago, SecretProvider said:

I'm sorry someone has had to explain how to wash yourself properly as a way of good manners before you are going to be intimate with them. Like I said, it is difficult to do without offending. My apologues you are offended by this. 

My question was for a “massage only session.” Who said about intimacy? I get a massage weekly without intimacy. It’s purely therapeutic. I do get that, in order to merely get a massage from you, you require a client to follow strict cleaning regimen to make you happy.  Or you would judge them harshly and send them to your bathroom over and over again until they pass your physical examination. That’s degrading to say the least. 

[pubic_assistance]

9 minutes ago, OvrwghtQT said:

That’s degrading to say the least. 

Its more degrading that he would NEED to explain to a grown man, that he needs to scrub his sweaty bits wkth soap and water. Not just do a quick rinse. 

Edited 1 hour ago by pubic_assistance
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[OvrwghtQT]

14 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Its more degrading that he would NEED to explain to a grown man, that he needs to scrub his sweaty bits wkth soap and water. Not just do a quick rinse. 

And he would send his clients to the bathroom multiple times, or escort them in the bathroom, until they pass his strict inspection before they can get mere massage. I’m a neat freak and very particular with my hygiene. But I also recognize that people, including message therapists and escorts, may have views of what hygiene is different from mine, sometimes related to their culture. So I won’t tell them to go back to back to bathroom over and over again until I’m satisfied with their smell or look.  

Edited 1 hour ago by OvrwghtQT

[pubic_assistance]

2 minutes ago, OvrwghtQT said:

I also recognize that people, including message therapists and escorts, may have views of what hygiene different from mine, sometimes related to their culture.

Yes.

Different cultures have different standards.

Different people have different standards.

If a provider wants you CLEAN, then that means CLEAN according to HIS standards.

As they say..don't like the terms ? DON'T SHOP THERE !

[OvrwghtQT]

Just now, pubic_assistance said:

Yes.

Different cultures have different standards.

Different people have different standards.

If a provider wants you CLEAN, then that means CLEAN according to HIS standards.

As they say..don't like the terms ? DON'T SHOP THERE !

That’s fair. So if a provider has a specific cleaning regimen that he wants followed by his prospective massage only clients, the provider must make that clear before the meeting. This thread could’ve been avoided had the provider communicated to OP about that. They clearly didn’t have a meeting of the minds at any point. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, OvrwghtQT said:

if a provider has a specific cleaning regimen that he wants followed by his prospective massage only clients, the provider must make that clear before the meeting. 

Well....NO.

The provider is expecting that his clients have the basic understanding of hygiene according to American Standards. Unless he is advertising in Mumbai, or to people who are washing in the filth of the Ganges, and expecting divine intervention,  I think its a given that customers maintain the basic standard of washing their bits and pieces with soap and water. 

The fact that you @OvrwghtQT are pushing back on this basic courtesy,  should signal a warning to the providers here in the room.