2 NYC Popular Spas Raided by NYPD

[d.anders]

14 hours ago, JayinHKNYC said:

so the Post wasn't precise

Nothing new there.

10 hours ago, Typical said:

Their families must be so proud!

Lots of people in America who are proud to inflict their religious moralism on all of us and control our behavior.

9 hours ago, Andysquestions said:

less than six months ago, it was trans athletes who were the problem

We're all on the chopping block, closet or not.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

As a NYer, this happens from time to time. They need to give "vice" a reason to exist. Obviously, everyone should be careful but I don't think this is heralding the end of such spas. 

[soloyo215]

18 hours ago, Smokey said:

“Preserving quality of life for New Yorkers is a priority for the city”

Wouldn’t making sex work legal and regulated contribute to quality of life? It seems that regulation could reduce sex trafficking, spread of STD’s, and underworld influence as well as adding a few dollars to the tax coffers.

I agree, yes. Sex is not viewed by many as anything healthy, leave alone making it legal to sell it. Unfortunately, this is where we are in the United States.

I also don't believe for a second that the raid has anything to do with fighting illegal activity.

[Spursy]

17 hours ago, JayinHKNYC said:

I just texted them, and 5 guys are available tonight.

TSMS just told me by text that they are closed tomorrow.  😬 Doesn’t sound good. 

[Unonymous30xxx]

I agree with most of the comments, but I will say this. I have seen providers who I have been worried were part of trafficking or abuse in these spas. I hope they get the help they need, wish it didn't ruin it for the rest of us.

[HungreeMunkee69]

21 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

As a NYer, this happens from time to time. They need to give "vice" a reason to exist. Obviously, everyone should be careful but I don't think this is heralding the end of such spas. 

I agree- Didn't 27 get raided a few years back and even closed for a while but it is still open and thriving now.

[JohnJackNYC]

The raids are based on  civil reports, so, most likely, these two spas and all the other spas visited by police and raided were because some “unanonymous” tip/report came from an unsatisfied customer expecting hand jobs or blowies to be free or given for $20.

[Peter Eater]

The story is suspicious (it is the Post, after all), and not just because it uses the word “masseuse.” I don’t believe this: “…allegedly offered undercover cops sex acts for less than $100 — including some specific acts as an la carte option — following their massages earlier this year…” 

Following their massages? Like, the cop had a massage, then got the offer? Or the offer was being made upfront during the massage booking, that a happy ending was possible for extra following the massage? Neither one is plausible.

And poor reporting is a Post specialty, so who knows what actually went down with the, uh, masseuse.

[Peter Eater]

On 5/23/2025 at 10:31 AM, JEC said:

It's happening....porn sites and rentmen are next.

Relax. “It” is not happening. You need a massage.

[Peter Eater]

On 5/24/2025 at 2:31 AM, Vegas_Millennial said:

the nonsense that someone can sue claiming a sex act for money was not consensual years after the fact

Nonsense? Recent estimates are that 3.8 million adults are trafficked for forced sexual exploitation and 1.0 million children are trafficked for commercial sexual exploitation. The problem of sex trafficking is real, and the power dynamics are real. This isn’t some rom-com gone bad. The question is how best to deal with and prevent it, not pretend it is made up.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

4 minutes ago, Peter Eater said:

Nonsense? Recent estimates are that 3.8 million adults are trafficked for forced sexual exploitation and 1.0 million children are trafficked for commercial sexual exploitation. The problem of sex trafficking is real, and the power dynamics are real. This isn’t some rom-com gone bad. The question is how best to deal with and prevent it, not pretend it is made up.

Agreed. One of my concerns with those kind of spas is that the guys might be trafficked. 

[BrklynNYC]

How can you tell if they are being exploited?

[Peter Eater]

1 minute ago, MmM said:

How can you tell if they are being exploited?

It isn’t easy (unless it’s underage), which is one reason it’s a complex problem.

[+ augustus]

This is nothing.  Go to Roosevelt Ave in Queens and the hookers are hanging out with halter tops and miniskirts with no underwear.  The location indicates Real Estate developers think this will affect their businesses and they got on the city to do something.

[Link]

10 hours ago, HungreeMunkee69 said:

I agree- Didn't 27 get raided a few years back and even closed for a while but it is still open and thriving now.

As I recall, TSMS was already raided a few years back. So this is actually not their first rodeo.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

15 hours ago, Peter Eater said:

Nonsense? Recent estimates are that 3.8 million adults are trafficked for forced sexual exploitation and 1.0 million children are trafficked for commercial sexual exploitation. The problem of sex trafficking is real, and the power dynamics are real. This isn’t some rom-com gone bad. The question is how best to deal with and prevent it, not pretend it is made up.

 

15 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Agreed. One of my concerns with those kind of spas is that the guys might be trafficked. 

This was my prediction 6 months ago when asked on a different thread what the affects of immigration enforcement was going to have on our hobby.  I predicted more raids like these 2 in NYC to target immigrants who are being pimped in massage parlors, not on individual escorts who self promote:

 

[Aquarionsol]

On 5/23/2025 at 10:54 PM, Typical said:

I just thank God NYC isn’t wasting precious taxpayer resources on patrolling subways or filling pot holes or picking up trash and instead is now focused on ending handjobs given to people I don’t know by people I’ve never met in places I’ve never been. What a relief! I feel safer already. 
 

(Who are the loser cops signed up for this pathetic duty? Their families must be so proud! “Mom and Dad! I brought a halt to some dangerous handjobs on 42nd Street today!  Are you proud?”) 

The ones that want to quick promotion to and want free Happy Endings.  Beats have to be an undercover drug dealer.

[Aquarionsol]

15 hours ago, MmM said:

How can you tell if they are being exploited?

I would think the cheaper the massage the higher the probability the workers are getting exploited.

[TonyDown]

16 hours ago, MmM said:

How can you tell if they are being exploited?

There was a spa in LA where someone on this chat board suggested the therapists could possibly be trafficked.  However each of the therapists at the spa have a massage license.  So the trafficking idea was doubtful.  

That might be a helpful clue.  A massage license probably indicates they are not victims of trafficking.

Another would be if they provide appointments both at the spa and at their apartment.

[Cooper]

Administrator’s Warning:

Gentlemen, Let’s keep politics out of this discussion. 🙏

[Cooper]

When HERO Spa was raided it reopened after 2 weeks. The undercover cops were only checking the masseurs’ licenses. Apparently, you don’t need a license if you only offer “body rubs/works”. (That’s what I was told but it might have changed).

As a result the owner had to pay a fine and they were back in business. Unlike this recent raid, no illegal services were reported and the customers there during the raid were just told to get dressed and leave. Yes, I was there at the time and overheard there was an anonymous call made to the NYPD. The manager believed it was one of his competitors who made the call. 

[Tactile Daddy]

15 minutes ago, Cooper said:

The manager believed it was one of his competitors who made the call. 

Damn... Sounds like it should be written into a Netflix series 

Oh the Drama 

[marylander1940]

22 hours ago, augustus said:

This is nothing.  Go to Roosevelt Ave in Queens and the hookers are hanging out with halter tops and miniskirts with no underwear.  The location indicates Real Estate developers think this will affect their businesses and they got on the city to do something.

Agreed!

Yes, but not in my back yard! 

[marylander1940]

7 hours ago, TonyDown said:

There was a spa in LA where someone on this chat board suggested the therapists could possibly be trafficked.  However each of the therapists at the spa have a massage license.  So the trafficking idea was doubtful.  

That might be a helpful clue.  A massage license probably indicates they are not victims of trafficking.

Another would be if they provide appointments both at the spa and at their apartment.

years ago, bribing the cops would have been enough now the DA and others have to show they're going after "criminals".

[Terpmaniac]

On 5/23/2025 at 6:21 PM, Typical said:

How does this all go down? I’m unclear - did the undercover cops actually get a massage and then get an upgrade offer? Did they pay, which I assume would come from Police Department funds? Did they tip? They came back a few times? Were they naked? Did they have guns with them and while they were on a massage table, were the guns safely stored? 
 

I’m intrigued. My fantasy needs details. 

This is just about the stupidest thing I have seen in a long time. Like New York does not have more pressing issues, then this. Gimme a fucking break.