AIDS DAY is today, and I can't find any mention of it

[BSR]

53 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

You are sadly misinformed. I’ll leave it at that. 

When I googled "long term side effects of ART drugs," results showed a list of health issues mentioned by @augustus plus a few others.  One article did note that ART drugs have been refined and that the newer drugs are much safer, but some patients still suffer long-term negative side effects.

[Luv2play]

5 hours ago, BSR said:

When I googled "long term side effects of ART drugs," results showed a list of health issues mentioned by @augustus plus a few others.  One article did note that ART drugs have been refined and that the newer drugs are much safer, but some patients still suffer long-term negative side effects.

The standard practice in the pharmaceutical industry industry is to list every possible side effect from taking a medication that has been reported. If only one in a million has had a side effect, it is listed.

This is why companies are required to give that information when promoting their products. Some people then assume this is a widespread occurrence just because it is mentioned. 
 

Statistics! 

[+ sniper]

The medication side effects have vastly diminished. In the early oughts you could identify a lot of people on the meds by the distinctive facial wasting. I knew of at least one person who found the side effects so bad he just stopped taking them and succumbed to the disease.  I don't see that happening now with the people I know are HIV+.

As for the not remembering, that's already happening with 9/11 and was even before the pandemic. It's a regular phenomenon.

[+ Lucky]

11 hours ago, augustus said:

Long term effects of antivirals include kidney disease, liver disease and heart disease.  Since you have to take them for years, side effects will happen.  "Many on ART experience no side effects at all"....you say.  Well, those many have just started taking them.  This is a big reason why HIV continues to spread....people think there's a "cure".   These meds are ALL TOXIC especially after a decade or two. 

So what's the choice? Die from AIDS?

[+ augustus]

1 hour ago, Lucky said:

So what's the choice? Die from AIDS?

No. Take the medication.  But people mistakenly believe these antivirals are a "cure".  And they are not. Reducing your viral load is NOT a cure.  Safe sex needs to be practiced at all times so that people, gay or straight, don't get it in the first place.  We still have tens of thousands of new cases every year.  I have no idea why @Luv2play believes there are nil long terms effects from this.  There are, just like chemo and immunotherapy can do long-term damage to your heart, kidneys and liver even if the cancer gets completely knocked out and never returns.

[caliguy]

31 minutes ago, augustus said:

No. Take the medication.  But people mistakenly believe these antivirals are a "cure".  And they are not. Reducing your viral load is NOT a cure.  Safe sex needs to be practiced at all times so that people, gay or straight, don't get it in the first place.  We still have tens of thousands of new cases every year.  I have no idea why @Luv2play believes there are nil long terms effects from this.  

I don't understand your need to fear monger or why your even preaching this here. I've never heard anyone say that the meds or just reducing your viral load was a cure. Those cases will always be there for whatever reasons. Drugs, alcohol, rape, etc which has nothing to do with someone thinking there was cure for it. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

44 minutes ago, caliguy said:

I don't understand your need to fear monger or why your even preaching this here. I've never heard anyone say that the meds or just reducing your viral load was a cure. Those cases will always be there for whatever reasons. Drugs, alcohol, rape, etc which has nothing to do with someone thinking there was cure for it. 

I think it is a mix of incurable bitterness and PTSD. A lot of veterans have not left behind the 80s trauma. Do not try to reason with them.

[+ augustus]

1 hour ago, caliguy said:

I don't understand your need to fear monger or why your even preaching this here.

Where's the fear mongering???  I'm just stating facts from the medical literature.  Go ahead and bury your head in the sand if you choose to.

Edited December 3, 2024 by augustus

[+ augustus]

1 hour ago, José Soplanucas said:

I think it is a mix of incurable bitterness and PTSD. A lot of veterans have not left behind the 80s trauma. Do not try to reason with them.

The incurable bitterness is yours.  That is why you continually make mealy mouthed remarks.  Bitterness from a failed blog I suppose. 

Edited December 3, 2024 by augustus

[+ DrownedBoy]

18 hours ago, Luv2play said:

You are sadly misinformed. I’ll leave it at that. 

Then my physician, who's also a professor of internal medicine, is also misinformed.

I have kidney disease. The meds would hurt me.

[+ augustus]

7 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Then my physician, who's also a professor of internal medicine, is also misinformed.

I have kidney disease. The meds would hurt me.

Sorry to hear that.  Hopefully your doctor can come up with a treatment plan.  

[+ DrownedBoy]

29 minutes ago, augustus said:

Sorry to hear that.  Hopefully your doctor can come up with a treatment plan.  

Hopefully my doctor won't have to come up with one....

EDIT: Referring to HIV treatment plans. Kidney disease is incurable. 

But in the meanwhile, it's a PITA to get my insurance to cover injectible PREP, since the others would hit my kidneys too.

Either way, condoms are my friend.

Edited December 3, 2024 by DrownedBoy
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