Be alert around Pride or other LGBTQIA+ gatherings this year

[+ José Soplanucas]

17 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

🙄  I've said my piece, I have nothing more to add. So keep up your senseless narcissistic rant if you must! 

12 hours later...

5 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

Thank you for just proving my point made about you! 😂 You exposed your own ignorance. I rest my case, thanks! 

You did have something to add.

I thought "Bright" was your middle name. Now, I am guessing for "Consistent"

[+ José Soplanucas]

I think these ladies should visit some posters' neighborhoods.

 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

5 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

Because live venues take on a dynamic that's dependent on direct attendance of a specific sub population, they should have a good share of liberty in deciding who enters their venue in order to keep their target group returning and spending money.

this reasoning could be used to exclude any group from any public venue.  let’s say a fancy public restaurant (not a private club) decides that their core rich white customer won’t come if they let in any other minority groups.
does that make any sense ?  NO & it would violate several laws

in practice, this still actually happens - although they try to hide their discrimination by saying the restaurant is “booked” or other excuses.  Foolish indeed because they’re asking for a lawsuit. 

Exclusion of women during Pride events or in other traditional gay public places (bars, restaurants, etc) seems to be the opposite of the inclusiveness that Pride is trying to promote. Go figure - the gays want to discriminate when it might be a little uncomfortable to some. 

Edited June 2, 2024 by SouthOfTheBorder

[Marc in Calif]

On 6/1/2024 at 2:18 PM, José Soplanucas said:

What is your argument, besides whining? 

His argument is always very bold.

In fact, every post and comment he makes on these forums is always very bold.

I guess he feels that retro, me-me-me-me, regressive ideas need to be very bold. 

Using 100% boldface font in every post/comment is LIKE THOSE INTERNET TROLLS WHO ALWAYS USE ALL-CAPS IN EVERYTHING. IT DIMINISHES AND EVEN CONTRADICTS THEIR INTENTIONS.

[SouthOfTheBorder]

16 hours ago, Marc in Calif said:

LIKE THOSE INTERNET TROLLS WHO ALWAYS USE ALL-CAPS IN EVERYTHING. IT DIMINISHES AND EVEN CONTRADICTS THEIR INTENTIONS.

LOL - much prefer someone with a strong opinion vs the passive/aggressive types.

and prefer those who speak to the subject - at least they’re contributing whether others agree or not.

the worst are the passive/aggressive who lurk around (several forums - not just this one) and live to pick apart opinions or real experiences posted by others, while offering none of their own. the constant negativity appears fueled by jealousy as they often target those who are well-traveled & having fun, then posting about it.

perhaps Pride events or something similar would be helpful for those caught in a cycle of depression - to actually experience something in the real world vs just reading about it here. 
the internet, unfortunately provides ample outlets for negativity and further decline.  very sad indeed for those afflicted 

Edited June 3, 2024 by SouthOfTheBorder

[marylander1940]

On 6/1/2024 at 9:07 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

it does feel like many of these Pride “events” are hyper-sexualized & pushing an agenda vs the original intent  
I don’t think it’s productive to have sex openly in public spaces as some sort of a statement.  It becomes a spectacle and works against the community.  

rampant drug use & alcohol at these events doesn’t help either.  it’s a perfect storm for the backlash we are experiencing now

Pride shouldn't become Folsom Street, there's a time and a place for everything. 

 

[+ José Soplanucas]

2 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Pride shouldn't become Folsom Street, there's a time and a place for everything. 

 

Pride has not become Folsom Street. If a minority blinds you to see the big picture, they are not the problem, your intolerance is. 

[marylander1940]

2 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Pride has not become Folsom Street. If a minority blinds you to see the big picture, they are not the problem, your intolerance is. 

Agreed and it shouldn't become that!

For the record I've been in both kind of festivals and I've always had a good time. 

 

Why you're so easily triggered into calling me "intolerant"? That was my first post in this thread although I have clicked like in some of the posts by @Danny-Darko I don't fully endorse his opinions. 

 

Edited June 3, 2024 by marylander1940

[+ José Soplanucas]

4 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Agreed and it shouldn't become that!

For the record I've been in both kind of festivals and I've always had a good time. 

 

Why you're so easily triggered into calling me "intolerant"? That was my first post in this thread although I have clicked like in some of the posts by @Danny-Darko I don't fully endorse his opinions. 

 

Read carefully my sentence. It is a conditional sentence. If the conditional clause does not apply to you, I am not talking about you. Have you heard of the "impersonal you?"

I am not triggered, darling. Thicken your skin, not everyone disagreeing with you is triggered. 

[marylander1940]

3 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Read carefully my sentence. It is a conditional sentence. If the conditional clause does not apply to you, I am not talking about you. Have you heard of the "impersonal you?"

I am not triggered, darling. Thicken your skin, not everyone disagreeing with you is triggered. 

You seem triggered again.

Happy Pride? I hope so!

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 6/2/2024 at 6:57 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

this reasoning could be used to exclude any group from any public venue.  let’s say a fancy public restaurant (not a private club) decides that their core rich white customer won’t come if they let in any other minority groups.
does that make any sense ?  NO & it would violate several laws

in practice, this still actually happens - although they try to hide their discrimination by saying the restaurant is “booked” or other excuses.  Foolish indeed because they’re asking for a lawsuit. 

Exclusion of women during Pride events or in other traditional gay public places (bars, restaurants, etc) seems to be the opposite of the inclusiveness that Pride is trying to promote. Go figure - the gays want to discriminate when it might be a little uncomfortable to some. 

A solution is to prohibit all minorities equally. 😁

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Pride has not become Folsom Street.

Well not the whole event...but if you walk around Greenwich Village after the parade you'll see a LOT of activity that's NOT appropriate for everyone.

These monsters seem unaware that people actually LIVE here and not everyone wants to see your saggy lesbian tits hanging out for everyone to see or your hairy fat man-ass sticking out the back of your leather chaps. More and more you see people showing up for pride with no regard for families with young children and elderly people who aren't interested is seeing this filth in public. ( and I say this as someone who enjoys a little "filth" in private).

Edited June 3, 2024 by pubic_assistance
grammar

[+ Travis69]

50 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well not the whole event...but if you walk around Greenwich Village after the parade you'll see a LOT of activity that's NOT appropriate for everyone.

These monsters seem unaware that people actually LIVE here and not everyone wants to see your saggy lesbian tits hanging out for everyone to see or your hairy fat man-ass sticking out the back of your leather chaps. More and more you see people showing up for pride with no regard for families with young children and elderly people who aren't interested is seeing this filth in public. ( and I say this as someone who enjoys a little "filth" in private).

EVERY day in Greenwich Village.  NOT exactly family oriented.

Edited June 3, 2024 by Travis69

[pubic_assistance]

There are two streets where the sexy shops exist. We avoid those when walking with family.

I support their existence when I need some new handcuffs or a bondage hood.

Too may gays can't separate their sex life from their public life.

It's sad.

Edited June 3, 2024 by pubic_assistance
spellng

[+ Travis69]

The newest fad with the young kids is "bracelet parties".  Girls get bracelets for every sexual act they do at the parties.  VERY popular with the upper crust crowd.  I think most of these kids can handle seeing some nudity.

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well not the whole event...but if you walk around Greenwich Village after the parade you'll see a LOT of activity that's NOT appropriate for everyone.

These monsters seem unaware that people actually LIVE here and not everyone wants to see your saggy lesbian tits hanging out for everyone to see or your hairy fat man-ass sticking out the back of your leather chaps. More and more you see people showing up for pride with no regard for families with young children and elderly people who aren't interested is seeing this filth in public. ( and I say this as someone who enjoys a little "filth" in private).

It sounds like you would feel differently if they were hot men and women and not saggy lesbians and hairy fat men.

Clearly, you hate something/somebody. But you hate so many things/people that it seems not even clear for you which one you hate the most. 

[pubic_assistance]

43 minutes ago, Travis69 said:

.  I think most of these kids can handle seeing some nudity.

YOU are the very example of the problem.

 

[pubic_assistance]

4 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

It sounds like you would feel differently if they were hot men and women and not saggy lesbians and hairy fat men.

Well...NO.

I am all for expressing one's sexuality in private.

As a parent I don't want people exposing themselves in public.

This is the problem with gays. They don't understand how to keep private matters private.

[+ José Soplanucas]

8 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well...NO.

I am all for expressing one's sexuality in private.

As a parent I don't want people exposing themselves in public.

This is the problem with gays. They don't understand how to keep private matters private.

My apologies. You do know what you hate the most. I am sorry, it was difficult to discern among all the florid adjectives. 

Perhaps you should move to Texas or Florida. This is America, we can move if we do not like where we live. 

[+ Travis69]

27 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

YOU are the very example of the problem.

 

OH DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HOW??????????????????????????????????????

[pubic_assistance]

2 minutes ago, Travis69 said:

OH DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HOW??????????????????????????????????????

Because your comment makes it seem that you dont understand the benefit of keeping children innocent of sexuality until they are ready to learn.

 

 

[+ Travis69]

4 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Because your comment makes it seem that you dont understand the benefit of keeping children innocent of sexuality until they are ready to learn.

 

 

A crazy assumption.

[+ José Soplanucas]

23 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

keeping children innocent of sexuality until they are ready to learn.

If you were able to stay focus on that issue, instead of using it as an excuse to discredit an entire civil rights movement and to spread your distaste for other people's bodies, perhaps we could have a conversation.

If your children witnessed sexual acts (actual sexual acts, no "ugly"people insulting you with their ability to be joyful "despite" their bodies), you have a legitimate concern.

 

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

your children witnessed sexual acts (actual sexual acts, no "ugly"people insulting you with their ability to be joyful "despite" their bodies), you have a legitimate concern.

You missed my previous comment where I said I came home late after the pride march and found a man engaging in anal sex with another man on my front steps. I was with my children who were young at the time.

This wasn't the first time I found people having sex in front of my house during pride.

 

[+ APPLE1]

On 6/2/2024 at 8:57 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

this reasoning could be used to exclude any group from any public venue.  let’s say a fancy public restaurant (not a private club) decides that their core rich white customer won’t come if they let in any other minority groups.
does that make any sense ?  NO & it would violate several laws

in practice, this still actually happens - although they try to hide their discrimination by saying the restaurant is “booked” or other excuses.  Foolish indeed because they’re asking for a lawsuit. 

Exclusion of women during Pride events or in other traditional gay public places (bars, restaurants, etc) seems to be the opposite of the inclusiveness that Pride is trying to promote. Go figure - the gays want to discriminate when it might be a little uncomfortable to some. 

I completely understand what you are saying. I think anytime a group is excluded, or made to feel unwelcome on any level, it warrants a high degree of scrutiny. I can certainly accept that some people feel that all venues should graciously welcome women, and other people scrutinize the same venue and feel women shouldn't be welcomed.

We see, and seemingly allow, descrimination all the time! The only difference is really how individuals feel in regard to what level of exclusion/inhospitableness is acceptable and who it can be directed at - - - we all evaluate and draw our lines in the sand differently.

Often, I think we just have tunnel vision to a few hot button issues that are presented to us. We are more than happy ignore the rest, or consider it as a tolerable level of descrimination.

Edited June 4, 2024 by APPLE1