gopochi Posted January 17 Posted January 17 24 minutes ago, DavidNY said: not sure why he was not up to snuff Client makes request. Provider agrees to meet. Provider postpones. Provider cancels and says it's because of the initial request. "I'm cancelling and it's your fault"
Alex_Twink Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Hi guys, I'm Alex_Twink. Honestly, I wasn't sure if I should write this or not because I didn't know whether to give this more attention or just let it go. This man has been insisting a lot about whether l'll be able to cum during our session together. He kept asking me about it several times, even going as far as asking when the last time I would cum before seeing him would be. I don't like feeling pressured, and that's why the night before we were supposed to meet, when he wrote to me again and asked about the same thing (whether | would finish), I told him it was better not to meet at all. I explained that I felt pressured and uncomfortable. I also didn't want to risk not meeting his expectations or having him feel like he was wasting his money if I didn't finish. So yes, 1 told him it was best to cancel our date for both of our sake. + Pensant, DFdub, mike carey and 16 others 10 9
mike carey Posted January 18 Posted January 18 30 minutes ago, Alex_Twink said: Hi guys, I'm Alex_Twink. Honestly, I wasn't sure if I should write this or not because I didn't know whether to give this more attention or just let it go. This man has been insisting a lot about whether l'll be able to cum during our session together. He kept asking me about it several times, even going as far as asking when the last time I would cum before seeing him would be. I don't like feeling pressured, and that's why the night before we were supposed to meet, when he wrote to me again and asked about the same thing (whether | would finish), I told him it was better not to meet at all. I explained that I felt pressured and uncomfortable. I also didn't want to risk not meeting his expectations or having him feel like he was wasting his money if I didn't finish. So yes, 1 told him it was best to cancel our date for both of our sake. Welcome to the forum Alex, I hope you find more productive uses for it than refuting criticisms or commenting on other negative posts. Most members here will appreciate it when you put your side of the story, and even more if you engage with positive commenters. You may even find other things here to be interesting. Good luck! liubit, + Tarte Gogo and + PhileasFogg 3
Chancealot Posted January 18 Posted January 18 7 hours ago, mike carey said: Welcome to the forum Alex, I hope you find more productive uses for it than refuting criticisms or commenting on other negative posts. Most members here will appreciate it when you put your side of the story, and even more if you engage with positive commenters. You may even find other things here to be interesting. Good luck! I’m quite impressed with his response sydneyboy, mike carey, + Pensant and 3 others 3 1 2
DavidNY Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) I give him credit for being honest and not over promising. If you have a particular fetish it’s good to make that clear, so I don’t blame the client either. Sounds like he decided he couldn’t deliver and canceled, that seems legit to me. That’s a pro. ill take you Alex! No need to cum at all! 😘 Edited January 18 by DavidNY + glutes, + Pensant, + Tarte Gogo and 1 other 2 2
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) On 1/17/2025 at 1:38 AM, Aedo said: Sad to report that this guy just isn’t up to task of being an escort, or perhaps has taken his professional cues from Kawhai Leonard. He demands a high rate ($400/hr) and canceled on me just now, the night before our 1pm appointment tomorrow, because he felt I had put too much pressure on him by expecting him to cum during our session (in no particular manner, merely that he cum). I rejoindered with the option of doing $300 + a $120 tip if he cums, but he never responded. Little bro doesn’t seem to understand that when you request Patrick Mahomes money, you’re held to a higher standard than Sam Darnold. Probably also worth mentioning that he had bumped our session from tonight to tomorrow (so he could meet a different client tonight), before ultimately canceling outright. You take a great risk when you block out time in your schedule for this kid. He fundamentally doesn’t respect the money he asks of you. I can see the pressure he might have felt and why he might have prioritized other opportunities. Do you think these guys are circus animals responding on command?? @Alex_Twink, good for you! Edited January 19 by PhileasFogg NYXboy 1
gopochi Posted January 19 Posted January 19 25 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said: Do you think these guys are circus animals responding on command?? Consideration has to go both ways. There's a reason clients try to "confirm" that a provider will actually do as he has (willingly) agreed to do. Because so many providers do not. It's among the reasons this site exists. And it's made even more necessary because when providers fail to perform as they agreed to do, they seem to expect full payment anyway. Aedo 1
guru68 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 The better the communication in both directions, the better these things go. + Tarte Gogo, + azdr0710, Chancealot and 1 other 2 2
+ Tarte Gogo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/18/2025 at 1:15 AM, Alex_Twink said: Hi guys, I'm Alex_Twink. Honestly, I wasn't sure if I should write this or not because I didn't know whether to give this more attention or just let it go. This man has been insisting a lot about whether l'll be able to cum during our session together. He kept asking me about it several times, even going as far as asking when the last time I would cum before seeing him would be. I don't like feeling pressured, and that's why the night before we were supposed to meet, when he wrote to me again and asked about the same thing (whether | would finish), I told him it was better not to meet at all. I explained that I felt pressured and uncomfortable. I also didn't want to risk not meeting his expectations or having him feel like he was wasting his money if I didn't finish. So yes, 1 told him it was best to cancel our date for both of our sake. I really enjoyed watching you cum on me, Alex, but I didn’t need you to, and even if you hadn’t, I would still have rated your performance very high! bretts2002 and + PhileasFogg 2
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 5 hours ago, gopochi said: Consideration has to go both ways. There's a reason clients try to "confirm" that a provider will actually do as he has (willingly) agreed to do. Because so many providers do not. It's among the reasons this site exists. And it's made even more necessary because when providers fail to perform as they agreed to do, they seem to expect full payment anyway. Fine. Give a review on your experience....but don't treat the guy like a dolphin jumping for a $120 fish! Edited January 19 by PhileasFogg mike carey 1
TJMS Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Phileas Fogg, Well said! I would have been put off by that proposal as well. I can see why Alex cancelled and his note to us makes me respect his honesty. + Pensant 1
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Just now, TJMS said: Phileas Fogg, Well said! I would have been put off by that proposal as well. I can see why Alex cancelled and his note to us makes me respect his honesty. To me, he's complaining about getting "bumped" when he made himself an undesirable engagement. If there were better options, I'd have taken it too. Disrespect doesn't breed good experience - and now he's blaming the object of his disrespect and playing victim!
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 1/17/2025 at 1:38 AM, Aedo said: Sad to report that this guy just isn’t up to task of being an escort, or perhaps has taken his professional cues from Kawhai Leonard. He demands a high rate ($400/hr) and canceled on me just now, the night before our 1pm appointment tomorrow, because he felt I had put too much pressure on him by expecting him to cum during our session (in no particular manner, merely that he cum). I rejoindered with the option of doing $300 + a $120 tip if he cums, but he never responded. Little bro doesn’t seem to understand that when you request Patrick Mahomes money, you’re held to a higher standard than Sam Darnold. Probably also worth mentioning that he had bumped our session from tonight to tomorrow (so he could meet a different client tonight), before ultimately canceling outright. You take a great risk when you block out time in your schedule for this kid. He fundamentally doesn’t respect the money he asks of you. The guy has rave reviews from all the other responders but you. Maybe you should ask yourself why that is.
Chancealot Posted January 20 Posted January 20 16 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said: To me, he's complaining about getting "bumped" when he made himself an undesirable engagement. If there were better options, I'd have taken it too. Disrespect doesn't breed good experience - and now he's blaming the object of his disrespect and playing victim! You made your points earlier now you’re just piling on
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Chancealot said: You made your points earlier now you’re just piling on Actually, I was addressing another member - but you're right. TBH - Not sure I care though
marylander1940 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 1/17/2025 at 5:25 PM, DavidNY said: Yeah I agree the last minute schedule changes were less than professional. I didn’t have that problem with him so not sure why he was not up to snuff. Maybe it was the orgasm thing *shrug* Guys usually don't like to be forced to cum. Most clients don't ask for it unless that's their thing. + PhileasFogg 1
+ ApexNomad Posted January 20 Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Guys usually don't like to be forced to cum. Most clients don't ask for it unless that's their thing. I very much enjoy when my tops cum. Ganymede255 and Chancealot 1 1
DavidNY Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Alex still get rave reviews from me. I guess the point of the thread is to say if you want to hire him, don’t text him multiple times to make sure he can come, feels like pressure to him. Every provider has their own idiosyncrasies , which is why I always check this site first. Thank you all (including Alex) for your contributions. This site has saved me more than once.
Aedo Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Simply put, I can’t pay a provider $400/hr if he can’t cum. I have had two bad experiences with guys who, upon meeting them, say that they don’t cum or ask for an extra donation to do so. It totally kills the mood and makes me dislike the experience. In a massage setting I don’t care, but in a sex setting I very much do. This provider knew that desire of mine and agreed to meet, asking me to confirm at least three times, which I did. I applaud that he (belatedly) realized he couldn’t live up to the expectation and canceled; what I don’t applaud is agreeing to meet, bumping me away from the first night in town when he knew he would be able to cum, finding a way to be unable to live up to very basic expectations for a $400/hr escort, and then canceling a few hours after what had been a clear confirmation on my part that we would meet. I only became worried about his ability to cum once I detected he had bumped me off of Thursday to meet a different client, if not several different clients. I disagree with his characterization that I incessantly bothered him about it, though I did make it clear I was worried about it. Lastly, I was somewhat relieved we didn’t meet because, I suspect, he likely didn’t have any juice left in the tank for our meet. I shared my experience to let others know he is willing to shift and annul engagements, and was willing to use my flexibility on time to make me his last priority — to fit me into his schedule at a time most would be at work and when he could likely forecast he wouldn’t be able to live up to clear expectations set. It is obvious to me that he cancelled likely not because of being pressured but because he had cum so much he knew he wouldn’t be able to recharge by 1pm the next day. I suspect he felt guilt, which I applaud. That’s the likely reason to request my confirmation at 7pm, receive said confirmation within 15 minutes, and then cancel at midnight with minimal communication in between. Philleas can wander around with his divining rod all he wants to. I’ve provided my review and don’t need to say anything else on the matter. Edited January 20 by Aedo
DC Guy 92 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I think we got the story the first time you told it. Seems like a lesson in hiring and providing. “Pressured” is a characterization, but client made it clear that was the service he wanted. Provider couldn’t do it, for whatever reason, so he canceled. Probably should’ve communicated it sooner to be respectful. Alex can make 400 bucks by the time it takes to read this thread, and the client can hire a cumfilled twink in the same amount of time. Both have been disrespectful towards each other so leave the review and move on. + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ PhileasFogg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 4 hours ago, Aedo said: Philleas can wander around with his divining rod all he wants to. I’ve provided my review and don’t need to say anything else on the matter. I understand your position. I do apologize for my harsh comments. I think we have different styles in our approach to these guys. So, styles aside, let's be objective: Transactionally, you're essentially asking him to abstain from activity for some period before you, for, depending on how you look at it, $400 or $120. Let's say he had, as you note, multiple encounters the prior day. Two, maybe three - you're asking him to give up $800-$1,200 or more with no premium paid by you. That's unreasonable in my opinion and as a capitalist who makes money with his time, I understand where he's coming from. This is a world of unmet expectations if one is simply willing to pay average prices. I think, as a business man, @Alex_Twink made the right call. gopochi and + pizzaBoy 1 1
Chancealot Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 15 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Guys usually don't like to be forced to cum. Most clients don't ask for it unless that's their thing. Forced ? lol it certainly (for me) is an expectation or hope prob not a “requirement” and I agree that the pressure of it being such is problematic to some providers I have been leery of seeing a provider after a just prior appointment as in are they spent if not from a cumming standpoint but being into it etc Edited January 20 by Chancealot Aedo, Aquila and gopochi 3
marylander1940 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 19 minutes ago, Chancealot said: Forced ? lol it certainly (for me) an expectation prob not a “requirement” and I agree that the pressure of it being such is problematic to some providers I have been leery of seeing a provider after a just prior appointment as in are they spent if not from a cumming standpoint but being into it etc Offer a tip. Even with Viagra they may not be able to get it and keep it hard if they get another client after.
DFdub Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Your own comments seem to betray you to Alex’s truth. 🤷🏻♂️ First, you offered Thurs or Fri. He said Thurs then, by your own words, “quickly switched to Friday” - that could be as simple as he looked at his calendar wrong initially and was already booked, or realized it would be too close to another appt, or even saw an earlier text asking for Thurs only and honored the prior ask since it came first and you offered both. Regardless, he adjusted the time quickly per you (and it didn’t seem to bother you either so maybe don’t hit that note so hard and often). After the meet was cancelled, you have now offered speculation about him bumping you for another client or him cumming too much or him having taken on several clients in qhat must have been a very lucrative night or whatever. My point is - you do not actually know why he originally adjusted the time quickly and you’re making it a huge deal because the appt was cancelled. Second, if you mentioned him cumming directly to him in all texts total even half as many times as you alluded to the act or how you or he should feel about it in your last post alone, he was justified. It’s not a convincing look. On 1/20/2025 at 4:17 AM, Aedo said: Simply put, I can’t pay a provider $400/hr if he can’t cum. …in a sex setting I very much do. [care] This provider knew that desire of mine… …he couldn’t live up to the expectation… …bumping me away from the first night in town when he knew he would be able to cum… …very basic expectations for a $400/hr escort… …became worried about his ability to cum… …I did make it clear I was worried about it. …I suspect, he likely didn’t have any juice left in the tank… …when he could likely forecast he wouldn’t be able to live up to clear expectations... …because he had cum so much he knew he wouldn’t be able to recharge by 1pm the next day… …he felt guilt… (Oh, and FYI - for a young hot twink in early 20s midnight to 1p is way more than enough time to reload, period. So, that isn’t plausibly why he cancelled just based on basic biology.) Honestly, your review and fleshing out the details just makes me more inclined to hire him. Too bad I missed him when he was here. Hope you have better luck in the future, @Aedo Good call, @Alex_Twink gopochi, + azdr0710 and + PhileasFogg 2 1
Colton Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/20/2025 at 5:17 AM, Aedo said: I can’t pay a provider $400/hr if he can’t cum. I thought you were paying for his time. Surely you weren’t paying for sex. That would be illegal. Lookin___, + Tarte Gogo, + azdr0710 and 2 others 5
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