Skewed perceptions of the biz…

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Had a chat with someone about this the other day: 

 

There shouldn’t be this idea that we’re “gambling” and playing by odds. I feel that trivializes our work and also gives the impression that nobody can be in control of their coordination.
 

I think once people change their views towards the biz, things will be better. 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

Dude, all work - even professional - is a gamble and involves shifting the odds in your favor.

A decade ago, knowing the website framework Ruby on Rails was a ticket to a well-paying job. Now only a handful of companies use it on legacy sites. Good thing I learned a different framework.

Everyone gambles on which skills are going to be in demand, and what people are willing to pay you for.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Dude, all work - even professional - is a gamble and involves shifting the odds in your favor.

A decade ago, knowing the website framework Ruby on Rails was a ticket to a well-paying job. Now only a handful of companies use it on legacy sites. Good thing I learned a different framework.

Everyone gambles on which skills are going to be in demand, and what people are willing to pay you for.

Right, except where does one draw the line? I did mention it CAN be like a gamble, but I don’t feel it has to be. Of course there’s strategies to use…because nobody wants to keep putting money into ads and taking trips, in a way that isn’t going to bring about a decent return 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

[Jamie21]

Learn by trial and error, over time you get to know what works and what doesn’t do you start to stack the odds in your favour. I used to accept or engage with clients who’d turn out to be time waters. Over time I recognised the signs so that now I can tell a time waster at 1000 yards! I know where to advertise, I know the patterns: when it’s busy, when it isn’t. It’s much less of a gamble. You find a modus operandi that works, then keep tweaking. 

[Bokomaru]

In the immediate term it makes sense that it’s a gamble to travel to a city, pay for hotels etc. But in the bigger picture, isn’t success more about building a loyal client base due to a consistently excellent experience? 

[NJF]

Vaganova was the most famous ballet teacher in the world. But the real secret of her success was not in her famous book. It was her ability to identify the unique appeals of each of her pupil and amplify it. What Jarrod really needed is to find a Vaganova” of gay escorting 🙂

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, Bokomaru said:

In the immediate term it makes sense that it’s a gamble to travel to a city, pay for hotels etc. But in the bigger picture, isn’t success more about building a loyal client base due to a consistently excellent experience? 

Hmm, well like I posted in another thread: sometimes no matter the experience, some people get to where they can’t afford it. Idk the exact validity of that. Or, with the options that are out there, lot of guys.. both free and paid, are always switching up their hookups. I see it all the time.

 

I enjoy having regulars myself but, if it were as easy as that in all areas…few would be posted up on RM “Available now” all the time. I reached out to one provider in my area with some feedback about a client who was being a pain in the…bussy about booking: turns out he told me he only sees him about once every 3 years. Wouldn’t surprise me but, that’s a long stretch that I’d hardly consider a regular. 
 

I most recently finally come across a DECENT return client who isn’t with the drama, high maintenance requests, canceling and rescheduling multiple times in a day (true story). 

[marylander1940]

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Learn by trial and error, over time you get to know what works and what doesn’t do you start to stack the odds in your favour. I used to accept or engage with clients who’d turn out to be time waters. Over time I recognised the signs so that now I can tell a time waster at 1000 yards! I know where to advertise, I know the patterns: when it’s busy, when it isn’t. It’s much less of a gamble. You find a modus operandi that works, then keep tweaking. 

Is that the reason why you rarely travel out of town and you mostly prefer to do incalls?

1000 yards away you can recognize a time waster?  By text it's hard to tell if someone is a time waster, PNP,  or just shy 

You know when it's going to be busy and when it's not going to be busy?

 @Jarrod_Uncut many providers use the word gamble when it comes to putting money into going out of town or staying home. It could be used casually for so many things that don't include gambling precisely. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

 @Jarrod_Uncut many providers use the word gamble when it comes to putting money into going out of town or staying home. It could be used casually for so many things that don't include gambling precisely. 

Right…and gambling is what I describe it if…IF one chooses to do it that way. For example, I “gambled” going to Houston with no pre-booked appointments (though I had a few contacts from previous advertising in the area…non of who were available). But normally I don’t do something as foolish and stupid as that anymore. Maybe in my 20s. But now I know better, and I would have been better off going an alternate direction but…live and learn. At least I know not to do it again.

But, what I was describing was: I didn’t think “odds” accurately described the biz. You can’t even put odds on it. That’s like a bad bet on PowerBall and mega millions lol.

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[DWnyc]

Gamble is a loaded word. I would say if one is an entrepreneur and running their own business they are taking risks and hopefully backed by smart decisions that incorporate patterns, intel, common sense, advice etc. The rewards can be greater than the government job or junior role that goes nowhere but gives a steady salary (but not always). But the losses of course can be worse if the risks don’t pay off. Sometimes that is because of circumstances beyond the entrepreneurs control. But not always. 

[Jamie21]

10 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Is that the reason why you rarely travel out of town and you mostly prefer to do incalls?

1000 yards away you can recognize a time waster?  By text it's hard to tell if someone is a time waster, PNP,  or just shy 

You know when it's going to be busy and when it's not going to be busy?

 @Jarrod_Uncut many providers use the word gamble when it comes to putting money into going out of town or staying home. It could be used casually for so many things that don't include gambling precisely. 

I do out calls but they’re mostly within London area. The reason I don’t travel much is because most clients book for an in call. Also, I’m based in the middle of a city of 10m people which has 30m visitors a year. There’s no need to travel, the world comes to London 🙂.

I think also the signals you get from what’s said in a text exchange are reliable indicators of whether someone is serious or just a time waster:

’Hi I’d like to book a session on x day at x time please’ or ‘I’m interested to book, do you do x’ or ‘I’m x years old and interested in booking is this ok?’ are all unlikely to be time wasters.

’Hey’ (and nothing else), or ‘massage?’ Or a picture of his cock or ass is 99% going to be a waste of time. 

I’ve been working this for over 5 years. I know the busy months, weeks and days. It’s fairly predictable. A lot of clients are regular so there’s a pattern there.