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I would not make Atlanta part of a trip unless you are into unattractive girlie boys and middle age roieed  out or fluffy guys (BJ roosters).  
 

it seems the montreal bars are struggling although I will make a visit there this summer to see.

johnsons Fort Lauderdale always has a strong lineup although it leans heavily Latin and unfortunately a good number struggle with English.

If you get tampa on a good weekend it is the best bet.  But they are struggling to build a strong client base.   I don’t know how they’ve managed to get so many hot guys (locals and guests)… but they have a good mix body type / ethnicity). 
 

Tampa is a hidden gem.   Not really a tourist destination like Miami and Fort Lauderdale but if people discover it… they almost always prefer it to Fort Lauderdale / Miami 

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10 hours ago, Atlanta_Guy said:

I would not make Atlanta part of a trip unless you are into unattractive girlie boys and middle age roieed  out or fluffy guys (BJ roosters).  
 

it seems the montreal bars are struggling although I will make a visit there this summer to see.

johnsons Fort Lauderdale always has a strong lineup although it leans heavily Latin and unfortunately a good number struggle with English.

If you get tampa on a good weekend it is the best bet.  But they are struggling to build a strong client base.   I don’t know how they’ve managed to get so many hot guys (locals and guests)… but they have a good mix body type / ethnicity). 
 

Tampa is a hidden gem.   Not really a tourist destination like Miami and Fort Lauderdale but if people discover it… they almost always prefer it to Fort Lauderdale / Miami 

Johnson's has forgotten what a blond dancer looks like. Matt's forgotten Boardwalk went south when it became mostly 30's heavy pushy Latins. I go to Clearwater and Sarasota a good bit and the guys around Tampa Bay are much better looking. There's also a hard-core OnlyFans/Porn/Escort cadre of guys in Orlando/Tampa who'd work the bar for clients.  Key West seems to have the best turnover of dancers, often European backpackers, and it's lax with the private dance rules. Sorry ATL is so bad now.

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8 hours ago, tassojunior said:

Johnson's has forgotten what a blond dancer looks like. Matt's forgotten Boardwalk went south when it became mostly 30's heavy pushy Latins. I go to Clearwater and Sarasota a good bit and the guys around Tampa Bay are much better looking. There's also a hard-core OnlyFans/Porn/Escort cadre of guys in Orlando/Tampa who'd work the bar for clients.  Key West seems to have the best turnover of dancers, often European backpackers, and it's lax with the private dance rules. Sorry ATL is so bad now.

Johnson’s hasn’t forgotten… they can’t find any blond hair blue eyed guys who are willing to dance.  I can promise you they try.   Gorgeous George (the airhead from California) is in Fort Lauderdale occasionally.   

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11 hours ago, Atlanta_Guy said:

Johnson’s hasn’t forgotten… they can’t find any blond hair blue eyed guys who are willing to dance.  I can promise you they try.   Gorgeous George (the airhead from California) is in Fort Lauderdale occasionally.   

1st time I went to Johnson's I couldn't choose between "Filou Fit" Phil Soulier and Malik Delgaty so went with both. Last month at Johnson's I didn't see anyone I'd bed and a 35-40ish flabby tatted Dominican? dancer kept rubbing everyone's dicks to take him for privates. Matt must have stolen him from Boardwalk. 

Key West has usually been decent and their privates are very private. (unfortunately dancers don't go in the nude pool). 

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6 hours ago, tassojunior said:

it's more a comparison to how bad Johnson's, Boardwalk, etc have gotten. 

Boardwalk yes.  But somewhat unfair regarding Johnson's FTL.  There are still some hot guys at Johnson's although not all of the dancers there are great.  

I think it's fair to say all the strip clubs everywhere are struggling to attract Class A talent.  I think it's a consequence of the internet,  OnlyFans et al, COVID, and many other things.  Handsome young men have so many other options to make money today without having to hang-out in a gay bar all night to dance for old guys.    

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33 minutes ago, EZEtoGRU said:

Boardwalk yes.  But somewhat unfair regarding Johnson's FTL.  There are still some hot guys at Johnson's although not all of the dancers there are great.  

I think it's fair to say all the strip clubs everywhere are struggling to attract Class A talent.  I think it's a consequence of the internet,  OnlyFans et al, COVID, and many other things.  Handsome young men have so many other options to make money today without having to hang-out in a gay bar all night to dance for old guys.    

at $20 every 4 minutes for private dances, it's common for a good-looking guy to make $2K a 5-hour work night. I've seen many lines for good-lookers. 

even at Secrets with no privates, $1K+ weekend nights were normal.

it's competitive. and past the top few dozen gay OnlyFans, it's a struggle.  

 

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3 hours ago, tassojunior said:

at $20 every 4 minutes for private dances, it's common for a good-looking guy to make $2K a 5-hour work night. I've seen many lines for good-lookers. 

even at Secrets with no privates, $1K+ weekend nights were normal.

it's competitive. and past the top few dozen gay OnlyFans, it's a struggle.  

 

You are living in a fantasy land lol.  That is not the current state of affairs in the stripper world.  Rest assured it is not common by any stretch of the word to make $2K a night lol.

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50 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Tassojunior, $20 per 4 mnts is 'only' 1.5K for 5 hours, 

and that's without a moment rest.....

tips and extras. many of both.

$20/song gets you alone and touching/feeling usually, ...not anything you want. I went with a friend from Secrets to Fairytale years ago a couple times for Adonis where he worked. came out of the curtain area once and told me the guy tipped him $200 to swallow his load. Said the guy earlier only tipped him $100 for that plus that guy's dick tasted awful. Anal is bigger tips. Stripping is also a good way to get OnlyFans subscribers. 

wasn't it Brandon from Montreal at the last Adonis NY who had a line in the basement all night as my friend relayed (from the line)? as they get rare, good-looking guys often don't miss many songs. 

it's sad so many of these strippers just don't make much because they're not that good-looking. 

 

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21 hours ago, tassojunior said:

tips and extras. many of both.

$20/song gets you alone and touching/feeling usually, ...not anything you want. I went with a friend from Secrets to Fairytale years ago a couple times for Adonis where he worked. came out of the curtain area once and told me the guy tipped him $200 to swallow his load. Said the guy earlier only tipped him $100 for that plus that guy's dick tasted awful. Anal is bigger tips. Stripping is also a good way to get OnlyFans subscribers. 

wasn't it Brandon from Montreal at the last Adonis NY who had a line in the basement all night as my friend relayed (from the line)? as they get rare, good-looking guys often don't miss many songs. 

it's sad so many of these strippers just don't make much because they're not that good-looking. 

 

Well Johnsons FTL keeps the curtains to the private booths open now so I don't think you can do anal and probably not even oral.  One dance told me that he made $700 on a shift, but that was a Saturday night, so I would be surprised if they make more than $1000 even on a busy Sat or Friday.  Many dancers will give you their number and offer erotic massages and more at your place, which is probably better but of course you are talking at least $250 plus per hour and even more for anal.  Concerning Montreal vs FTL, it's a bit early in the season to go to Montreal.  Many of the Montreal dancers are probably still in Florida, especially south Florida.  

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29 minutes ago, rojjodc said:

Well Johnsons FTL keeps the curtains to the private booths open now so I don't think you can do anal and probably not even oral.  One dance told me that he made $700 on a shift, but that was a Saturday night, so I would be surprised if they make more than $1000 even on a busy Sat or Friday.  Many dancers will give you their number and offer erotic massages and more at your place, which is probably better but of course you are talking at least $250 plus per hour and even more for anal.  Concerning Montreal vs FTL, it's a bit early in the season to go to Montreal.  Many of the Montreal dancers are probably still in Florida, especially south Florida.  

3 years ago at Secrets with no privates $700 on a Saturday night was a low night. But the guys were outstandingly good looking. Looks (and hopefully a personality) make all the difference. 

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1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

I'll b in Montreal next months. 

May I expect a BJ for $100, per Tassojunior's story? 

[I thought dancers dont give BJ, but rather get them.....]

Any lesser activity for smaller tip?

i didn't say anything about $100 bj's in Montreal. aamf at Campus at least the last time I was there the "privates" weren't very private. it was just a large area with scattered chairs etc.

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