newdad Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I saw a posting on rentmasseur and it says incall is $180. How much ideally is the tip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WstVlgChris Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just my opinion, and others may differ: If it's your first time seeing the guy, suggest you have 2 twenties on hand. If the massage is amazing, give him both as tip. If merely average, a $20 tip should suffice. handiacefailure, Cruiser7, pubic_assistance and 6 others 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwine56 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, ayjaydaddy said: I saw a posting on rentmasseur and it says incall is $180. How much ideally is the tip? No tip required unless he truly bowls you over and you plan to return. + Vegas_Millennial, + Lucky, musclestuduws and 9 others 7 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ dctraveler Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Since I use both venmo and cash, I typically will tip between 10% to 25% of the session cost and will make my decision depending on how good the massage and overall experience was. And what do you know, it ends up being pretty similar to what WVChris mentioned with either a $20 or $40 tip lol. For the masseurs that give you a short massage, lasting between 30 to 45 mins and then give you a release, I don't bother tipping them. I would much rather tip the "rockstar" masseurs that give you full 60 or 90 mins you requested plus a release afterward. sider, Tactile Daddy, Bluefin and 6 others 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medin Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 No tip required unless they go above and beyond what is expected or agreed upon. They are self-employed and already set the rate so tipping is not required in my opinion. That being said, I think the tipping culture in the US has gotten out of hand so maybe I'm the scrooge. EastbayMike, Jasonmathison, Cari and 8 others 4 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ dctraveler Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Medin said: No tip required unless they go above and beyond what is expected or agreed upon. They are self-employed and already set the rate so tipping is not required in my opinion. That being said, I think the tipping culture in the US has gotten out of hand so maybe I'm the scrooge. I actually agree with your viewpoint. Since there is no amount of money that you could pay me to become a massage therapist, I feel that I should tip masseurs that go above and beyond. However, I also do not believe that any of us should feel obligated to tip a masseur because of what you mentioned about the tipping culture in the US and should be left to an individual's discretion without the opinion or judgment of others. Yukon21, Exploritor, musclestuduws and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 *Damn* A 10% tip ? Do you pay him in quarters just to make it feel extra humiliating ? musclestuduws, Dr.Daddy, Marc in Calif and 4 others 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefin Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Similar to the above but I keep 3 $20s in my wallet. No tip: time shorters, basic rub and tug etc $20: meets expectations $40: sweet guy, good massage, enthusiastic, doesn’t watch the clock $60: great massage, great extras Just Chuck, musclestuduws, sider and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, Bluefin said: No tip: time shorters, basic rub and tug etc $20: meets expectations $40: sweet guy, good massage, enthusiastic, doesn’t watch the clock $60: great massage, great extras I concur. Although if the "extras" go way into escort territory ( fucking ) I pay a full escort rate. ( Typically $ 100 more ) Redwine56 and Just Chuck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploritor Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I think I understand why masseurs want me to come back. I had no idea what was expected, and still fairly new at this, and apparently WAY overtipping. lanyc, Redwine56 and + dctraveler 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnoddingHead Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Great topic/ discussion. I am always confused on what and if to tip at the end of a session. Think there are several factors involved as mentioned. Like if its a 60 min therapeutic session for $180 (which is steep for just therapeutic) and you get the full 60 min of good massage work , would one tip on that higher price or think thats already worked into the rate? Thanks for the advice guys on the extra $20s to carry. I usually have at least one extra and sometimes a few $5s just to mix things up a bit ha ha Dr.Daddy and + dctraveler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, KnoddingHead said: I am always confused on what and if to tip at the end of a session. Think there are several factors involved as mentioned. There is also the issue of a private practice vs. a spa/massage center. A private masseur takes all the money home, where someone at a spa only gets a portion of your payment. So tipping is less crucial for the income of the private person. musclestuduws, Medin and Dr.Daddy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitano Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 20 hours ago, Medin said: No tip required unless they go above and beyond what is expected or agreed upon. They are self-employed and already set the rate so tipping is not required in my opinion. That being said, I think the tipping culture in the US has gotten out of hand so maybe I'm the scrooge. I agree 100% percent, and I like to consider an additional factor. If the price suggests that the provider is an aggressive extractor of money, they'd have to go WAY over what is usually provided to get any tip. In fact, I refuse to give business to those who are already at $200 for an hour, and I am not sure about $180 either, I might go for it if the masseur is hot and has good comments here. Those who are still in the $140-$150 range usually get $20-$40 if the experience is OK. I don't go to spas so I can't speak to that, I prefer to give business to individual masseurs who are then business owners and are not entitled to tips by default. musclestuduws, Medin and TracerMain 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The endless, and impossible to answer tip debate again! I don’t expect any tip, and to get one is fabulous. But this is from a UK perspective where tipping is not such a big thing as it seems to be in the US. If you tip here then it’s generally only because you received exceptional service. If you tip zero then that isn’t interpreted as being bad, it means expectations were fully met. I’ve said previously that I much prefer a client to come back, or to give a fantastic review, than to tip. Of course they’re welcome to do all three 🙂 Medin, musclestuduws, jazeboy and 4 others 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Intosmoothmuscles Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 22 hours ago, Medin said: No tip required unless they go above and beyond what is expected or agreed upon. They are self-employed and already set the rate so tipping is not required in my opinion. That being said, I think the tipping culture in the US has gotten out of hand so maybe I'm the scrooge. It’s not because they are “self employed” that we should not tip. If they are independent and only accept cash I don’t tip unless they are really amazing . If they take Zelle or other direct electronic payments it’s another story .. Capitano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I posted a topic about this a while back. Based on that feedback, I have adjusted my stance a bit. I typically pay a 20% tip, which is kind of standard in the US. However, after some mediocre and outright bad experiences where I didn't even come close to receiving the full time, I have begun adjusting my tips a bit. Now, good masseur gets the full 20% maybe a bit more. However, I recently had one guy that pulled a bit of a bait and switch. I asked for his standard 60 minute massage as an outcall. He kept trying to upsell me on his VIP package. - I ultimately agreed. Well, it wasn't that VIP. The $185 massage turned into $265 for this time, but then if I became a repeat customer it would be 1/2 price for the next one. There will not be a next one. I tipped him $15. That's the lowest tip I have ever given. That was generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 51 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: I don’t expect any tip, and to get one is fabulous. But this is from a UK perspective I would add that this is a general European vs. American issue for many service industry jobs. Americans EXPECT a tip. Europeans don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitano Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, questbear said: I posted a topic about this a while back. Based on that feedback, I have adjusted my stance a bit. I typically pay a 20% tip, which is kind of standard in the US. However, after some mediocre and outright bad experiences where I didn't even come close to receiving the full time, I have begun adjusting my tips a bit. Now, good masseur gets the full 20% maybe a bit more. However, I recently had one guy that pulled a bit of a bait and switch. I asked for his standard 60 minute massage as an outcall. He kept trying to upsell me on his VIP package. - I ultimately agreed. Well, it wasn't that VIP. The $185 massage turned into $265 for this time, but then if I became a repeat customer it would be 1/2 price for the next one. There will not be a next one. I tipped him $15. That's the lowest tip I have ever given. That was generous. You just made me think of another rule I forgot to mention 🙂 . I think that pricing that ends with a $5 increment is obnoxious and I hold it against the provider. Realistically, $185 almost always turns into $200 because the chance of me having $5 is close to zero, and asking for change is just awkward. In fact, I see $185 and $265 as more dishonest than $195 and $275, so I'd be even less likely to book. Cruiser7 and Wanderoz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Capitano said: Realistically, $185 almost always turns into $200 because the chance of me having $5 is close to zero, and asking for change is just awkward. Oh no! You wouldn’t hire me then. My 90m rate is £185…..but I take card payments so you can pay the exact amount if you don’t have cash 😂 musclestuduws and Capitano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Capitano said: I think that pricing that ends with a $5 increment is obnoxious I'll suck your dick for $24.99 😉 musclestuduws, + ButchAtl, Exploritor and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitano Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: Oh no! You wouldn’t hire me then. My 90m rate is £185…..but I take card payments so you can pay the exact amount if you don’t have cash 😂 ATMs in the US dispense $20 bills, is the £20 note as dominant over there? I seldom have anything other than a bunch of $20 and a couple of $1 bills in my wallet, seriously. $5 and $10 do exist and are used but they are not that frequent, I seldom have them. When you try to use $50 or $100 here, people look at you strange, they are so rare. For massage I do prefer to use cash, and I suspect many masseurs like that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Capitano said: ATMs in the US dispense $20 bills, is the £20 note as dominant over there? I seldom have anything other than a bunch of $20 and a couple of $1 bills in my wallet, seriously. $5 and $10 do exist and are used but they are not that frequent, I seldom have them. When you try to use $50 or $100 here, people look at you strange, they are so rare. For massage I do prefer to use cash, and I suspect many masseurs like that as well. Cash is pretty rare here. Especially after the pandemic when many shops stopped taking cash. ATM’s mostly dispense £20 and £10. So £5 notes are rarer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56harrisond Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Capitano said: ATMs in the US dispense $20 bills, is the £20 note as dominant over there? Newer ATMs, especially in the U.S., dispense $5, $20 and $50 bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Client1985 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Capitano said: You just made me think of another rule I forgot to mention 🙂 . I think that pricing that ends with a $5 increment is obnoxious and I hold it against the provider. Realistically, $185 almost always turns into $200 because the chance of me having $5 is close to zero, and asking for change is just awkward. In fact, I see $185 and $265 as more dishonest than $195 and $275, so I'd be even less likely to book. Easy fix. I ensure i have my money figured out. $185 is not $200. If I only have 20's, i stop at a store and buy some mints. relax man, Capitano, Moke and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploritor Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I'll suck your dick for $24.99 😉 On the flip-side, what your rate for having yours sucked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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