RyanDean Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I recently started reading Hawk Mountain by Conner Habib and I'm really enjoying the way Habib depicts the complicated emotional/sexual dynamics among men. So it got me to wondering... Are there other notable novels by gents who've spent time as sex workers? I've read John Rechy and have read novels, short stories and plays "about" hustlers, gigolos and rentboys. But if any of you have leads on others write BY (but not necessarily ABOUT) male sex workers, I'd love to have the suggestions. JourneysEnd and Marc in Calif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeamerBikes Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Christopher Daniel's wrote a memoir of "Money's on the dresser" it's been a while since I read it. Covers the escort life in Vegas in the early 2000s-2010s. It was an easy enjoyable read, but I can't remember any deep insights from it. RyanDean and Rod Hagen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) I LOVE John Rechy's novel/memoir, The Sexual Outlaw. I stumbled onto it as a young budding gay lad of 19. I sneaked reads of that book from the library stacks every chance I could. Edited January 28, 2023 by misterhumphries Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Assuming the Position. Ppl argue it's more a novel of addiction than hustling, but it's both. Angry young man. But good writer. I LOVE the cover. https://www.amazon.com/Assuming-Position-Hustling-Rick-Whitaker/dp/1568582021 There are others, I'll get back to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 10:49 AM, RyanDean said: I recently started reading Hawk Mountain by Conner Habib and I'm really enjoying the way Habib depicts the complicated emotional/sexual dynamics among men. So it got me to wondering... Are there other notable novels by gents who've spent time as sex workers? I've read John Rechy and have read novels, short stories and plays "about" hustlers, gigolos and rentboys. But if any of you have leads on others write BY (but not necessarily ABOUT) male sex workers, I'd love to have the suggestions. Based on your post @RyanDean I now have a copy of Hawk Mountain to read. Many reviews talk about how depressing the novel is, so I am curious as to how I will like it. Rod Hagen and JourneysEnd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDean Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 It's dark -- and intense -- and surprising, @Lucky. But beautifully crafted. Rod Hagen, JourneysEnd and + Lucky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Hawk Mountain is indeed very well written. I liked much of it. But the travails of the main character, Todd, are a bit hard to take. It definitely is intense. Perhaps its a tale of the hardships of staying in the closet. A lot of damage gets done. @RyanDeanyou listed this under "novels by providers." Is Conner Habib a provider? I also notice that the copyright is held by Andre Khalil. Is that the author's real name? Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDean Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) @Lucky~ Conner Habib was his nom-de-porn, which he has continued to use for his post-porn career (writing, podcasting, etc). And I definitely recall him running an on/off-again ad back in the days of Rentboy. Dunno about the legal name. Edited February 13, 2023 by RyanDean + Lucky and Rod Hagen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 8:13 PM, BeamerBikes said: Christopher Daniel's wrote a memoir of "Money's on the dresser" it's been a while since I read it. Covers the escort life in Vegas in the early 2000s-2010s. It was an easy enjoyable read, but I can't remember any deep insights from it. I wasn't aware of this, thank you. Look forward to reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) On 2/12/2023 at 9:20 PM, Lucky said: Is Conner Habib a provider? I also notice that the copyright is held by Andre Khalil. Is that the author's real name? On 2/12/2023 at 9:33 PM, RyanDean said: Conner Habib was his nom-de-porn, which he has continued to use for his post-porn career (writing, podcasting, etc). And I definitely recall him running an on/off-again ad back in the days of Rentboy. Dunno about the legal name. Andre Khalil and Conner Habib are the same person. Conner Habib - Wikipedia Edited February 14, 2023 by Whitman Rod Hagen and + Lucky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Wikipedia says in paragraph one that Khalil was born August 23, 1977. In paragraph two, they say that Khalil was born on August 23, 1974. And here I have been thinking of how reliable the site is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 11:13 PM, BeamerBikes said: Christopher Daniel's wrote a memoir of "Money's on the dresser" ... For those interested in memoirs (not just novels) by providers, there's also David-SF's Every Grain of Sand, which was discussed on this Forum when it came out ... currently 4.8 (out of 5) stars based on 111 reviews on Amazon. https://www.queerty.com/sex-worker-survived-hell-teach-us-forgiveness-20200405 Rod Hagen and RyanDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la_connor Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Straight porn star (etc), Danny Wilde, wrote a fictionalized memoir about his porn career, Body to Job, under his real name, Christopher Zeischegg. It was interesting to get a look at that industry. I liked his memoir enough to buy his novel, The Magicians. It's experimental fiction that seems to be a stream-of-consciousness narrative of drug addition. I abandoned it after 100 pages. Out of print now. Published by an indie house (Amphetamine Sulphate) that reminds me of Obelisk Press. He also wrote a horror novel about incest that is rumored to be semi-autobiographical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JourneysEnd Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 4:13 AM, BeamerBikes said: Christopher Daniel's wrote a memoir of "Money's on the dresser" it's been a while since I read it. Covers the escort life in Vegas in the early 2000s-2010s. It was an easy enjoyable read, but I can't remember any deep insights from it. It comes across as one long excuse for a bad review, TBH Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JourneysEnd Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 6:49 PM, RyanDean said: I recently started reading Hawk Mountain by Conner Habib and I'm really enjoying the way Habib depicts the complicated emotional/sexual dynamics among men. So it got me to wondering... Are there other notable novels by gents who've spent time as sex workers? I've read John Rechy and have read novels, short stories and plays "about" hustlers, gigolos and rentboys. But if any of you have leads on others write BY (but not necessarily ABOUT) male sex workers, I'd love to have the suggestions. Hawk Mountain is a marvelous book RyanDean, + Lucky and Rod Hagen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cany10011 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 11:32 AM, Rod Hagen said: Assuming the Position. Ppl argue it's more a novel of addiction than hustling, but it's both. Angry young man. But good writer. I LOVE the cover. https://www.amazon.com/Assuming-Position-Hustling-Rick-Whitaker/dp/1568582021 There are others, I'll get back to this thread. I enjoyed this book too And, yet... the cover is quite alluring. + FrankR and Rod Hagen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ sf westcoaster Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 David - SF has authored a book titled “Every Grain of Sand”. It is the story of his life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 10:43 AM, Whitman said: For those interested in memoirs (not just novels) by providers, there's also David-SF's Every Grain of Sand, which was discussed on this Forum when it came out ... currently 4.8 (out of 5) stars based on 111 reviews on Amazon. https://www.queerty.com/sex-worker-survived-hell-teach-us-forgiveness-20200405 56 minutes ago, sf westcoaster said: David - SF has authored a book titled “Every Grain of Sand”. It is the story of his life.. I will see if my library has it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Although it is not a novel, Hustlers, Escorts, Porn Stars: The Insider's Guide to Male Prostitution in America, was written by Matt Adams, who was a porn star himself. It is somewhat outdated, because it was published in 1999, before computers and smart phones had changed the business. Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Charlie said: Although it is not a novel, Hustlers, Escorts, Porn Stars: The Insider's Guide to Male Prostitution in America, was written by Matt Adams, who was a porn star himself. It is somewhat outdated, because it was published in 1999, before computers and smart phones had changed the business. Reading that book in 1999 on a flight b/w LA and NYC made me decide to "moonlight" as an escort. https://www.amazon.com/Hustlers-Escorts-Porn-Stars-Prostitution/dp/0966579623 Edited June 22, 2023 by Rod Hagen + Charlie, + Lucky and + Just Sayin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Just Sayin Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Jacob Crowe has written this one: Amazon.com WWW.AMAZON.COM it's, shall we say, unpolished and could use a good editor, if not more! Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 4:15 PM, Lucky said: Based on your post @RyanDean I now have a copy of Hawk Mountain to read. Many reviews talk about how depressing the novel is, so I am curious as to how I will like it. Lucky you would not like this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said: Lucky you would not like this book. Although it is quite intense, I gave it 5 stars back in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Lucky said: Although it is quite intense, I gave it 5 stars back in February. Oh, I'm surprised, I thought you'd find it too much of a downer. Cool. + Lucky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Hawk Mountain was quite a book. I finished it today. I wish there were ways of discussing it without spoiling it. Before two weeks ago, I'd never heard of Conner Habib. After I started his book, I emailed him and invited him to coffee and got a very nice reply back (he's living in Ireland). I've also recently watched and liked his porn, and this week I've listened to and enjoyed many of his podcasts, the ones not dealing with Spirituality. Against Everyone | Conner Habib CONNERHABIB.COM AGAINST EVERYONE with CONNER HABIB Against Everyone with Conner Habib is podcast featuring my conversations with countercultural figures, and... I love that professional name. His Mom is Irish, his dad Syrian. Conner Habib. I love that for once an escort wrote a book NOT about escorting. That's like finding a Unicorn in a book written by a Dragon. No, that's not right. Anyway, good on him for thinking outside the box for his first book. I don't suppose anyone here can remember when abouts he escorted? I'd love to find his Rentboy ad on the Internet Archive, as well as his Daddy's Reviews, if he had any. The book is a horror book. It's a gay book. But it's a horror book. It's not a thriller. One of Conner's favorite films is Hellraiser, so be warned, things get dark. It is a very well-written book with characters I will think about for a long time. Edited July 4, 2023 by Rod Hagen + Lucky and + Charlie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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