Client Reviews?

[Guest jeffOH]

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yeah but that limits the fun!

[Rod Hagen]

3.5 years ago when I first started escorting there was a "Black List" website (it had nothing to do with this one, as Hoo's site didn't exist at the time). You would think such a device would get out of control, but it was actually a perfect resource for escorts. There was a long list of AOL handles belonging to assholes who invite escorts over for bogus apppointments (unoccupied or nonexistent hotel rooms, fake addresses, etc) and also gave names, yes sometimes full names (even addresses and phone numbers in cases of "confirmed" violent or dangerous clients), of clients who have a history of short changing, or violent behavior toward, or just simply flaking on, escorts. I don't remember one instance of an escort who had an ax to grind, but I'm sure it happend and ultimately that probably would have been the worst aspect of the resource. It never got that far, whoever hosted the free and advertisement free site (and you know I never thought to ask) closed up shop suddenly and without explanation just a few months after I discovered it.

 

There has been talk over the years about starting a new one, but nobody's done it. If you know someone who remembers the infamous Blacklist, he's been escorting a long long time and is probably washed up. Oh wait, that's me! :-)

[Guest jeffOH]

WHY WAS MY POST DELETED?

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[+ Hoover42]

This might be good for the clients as well, particularly if the escorts started posting positive comments about the good clients.

 

For example, I can imagine some escorts willing to fight over a client who received comments like, "Hoover was punctual, clean, attentive, and generous, and gave an excellent blowjob."

[Rick Munroe]

>"Hoover was punctual,

>clean, attentive, and generous,

>nd gave an excellent blowjob."

 

Hoover sounds like Rick's kind of guy (especially that part about the excellent blow job). :9

[uriellasvegas]

I have been out all day and came home moments ago and am pleased to see some nice replies to my posting.

 

Someone wrote it would limit the fun? I wonder how? As someone else mentioned, there could be some really positive comments as well. I've met some really cool people here and who were visiting that MAY appreciate some positive words.

 

Then again, who wants a record of hiring an escort? Who wants that information become known? Maybe there can be a private posting board for escorts only? Hell, I do not know.

 

There is a guy in Las Vegas who will pay escorts only what he wants. He will pay only $25.00 under the agreed price when the cash comes out... I think that stinks. Then again, some clients forget to include the whole fee and what am I going to do... be a debt collector? Tell the concierge on him? Call the police?

 

For that matter, the Vice sting operations like what I read about in NYC and the one last summer here in LV could be discussed and escorts could learn to protect ourselves through the help of others by using a private posting space. What ya think? :o

[uriellasvegas]

Did you find out what eas deleted?

[Guest NakedTony]

>Maybe there can be a private posting board for escorts only?

 

I thought this already existed on this board. I'm not an escort so I don't have access to it. But I'm positive, if it's not still around, that HooBoy had an "escorts only" section at one time.

 

Wish I could see what they say about some of us. :+

[Flower]

>For that matter, the Vice sting operations like what I read

>about in NYC and the one last summer here in LV could be

>discussed and escorts could learn to protect ourselves through

>the help of others by using a private posting space. What ya

>think? :o

 

I think escorts nationally ought to unite -- and not just for a lil ol web page or private chat room, but on a much grander scale -- a cooperative organization for all sorts of information, but in particular, legal advice and counseling -- and have a "house attorney" on retainer who would be willing to give all sorts of related legal advice at group (3 ways or more) meetings, weekly mailings, and answering legal questions by email, phone or talking in bed. Each member of this nation wide organ would take turns trading their "time" for attorney fees }( and since there would be no actual cash transactions to worry about it would save on bookkeeping expense and thus make the attorney even more valuable and give you an even bigger bargain :7

 

The only problem is finding such a dedicated individual willing to make the sacrifice for the good of ya'al, but I just might be able to help find such a person. :+

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Another Escort Answers

 

>>Maybe there can be a private posting board for escorts

>only?

>

>I thought this already existed on this board. I'm not an

>escort so I don't have access to it. But I'm positive, if it's

>not still around, that HooBoy had an "escorts only" section at

>one time.

 

The Escorts Only forum is not intended for the purposes outlined here, but rather to provide the escorts there an opportunity to communicate one another with a certain degree of privacy and a certain freedom from some of the problematic aspects of the balance of the Message Center.

 

While older than Mr. Hagen, or so I am told, I do not recall the Black List but have heard tell of it. On another escort forum I participate in, this topic has been discussed and many escorts have taken the position I have taken. Such a list would be violation of the discretion we have offered our clients as well as the privacy which they have and should come to expect from us.

 

Notwithstanding that, here and elsewhere, such as that site, we have discussed clients in non-specific manners (for example, clients who consistently short the escort on the agreed upon fee, suggestions for handling same, etc.).

 

On the other escort forum I recall a mention of a currently existing web site that does what Mr. Hagen stated the Black List provided, however I personally have not had the inclination to physically check out such a site. Any currently working escort with a verifiable (i.e. listed on his reviews here on this site or another escort site), is welcome to contact me directly and I will try to provide what assistance I can in locating this particular site, should it exist and should you desire that information.

 

I am not going to provide it to clients, so please save us both the trouble.

[Luv2play]

Would this give a new meaning to the term "screwed by the attorney":7

[kjun]

How harsh!

 

the Cajun

[sdg]

uriel

 

that was i who wrote it would limit the fun. it sorta lost it's meaning because they deleted jeff's comment which i was responding to. the explanation to my statement is that if you guys, escorts, comment in the "escort only section" then the client will not be able to share in the fun of reading the comments.

[Flower]

>Would this give a new meaning to the term "screwed by the

>attorney":7

I wouldn't exactly say "new!"

[HooBoy]

There is no ESCORTS ONLY section.

 

The membership to that section was by invitation only and it was not really meant to be discussed in open forums.

 

Sorry, guys. I tried to help.

[Rod Hagen]

>The membership to that section was by invitation only and it

>was not really meant to be discussed in open forums.

 

Goddamn it guys, weren't you able to read the rules? This sucks.

 

 

"Having these balls makes

me feel something close to

joy, I think. I must caress

them." -FRIEZA

-Hagen

[uriellasvegas]

Thank for all the great feedback and comments. With ALL the wonderful resources here on M4M, I am keeping in mind that this is a site that seems to have its scope all that applies to the Escort and not so much on the Client... but for the Client. For the Client to find the Escort. Thus the Escort makes money. Etc...

 

I am, naturally, interested in using all the resources I can find that could enhance my business (as it were). My first year in escorting has been somewhat fruitful, but January was frustrating with all the flaky replies I have been getting. In one week I was stood-up three times and was ranting at one point.

 

Argh...

 

Cheers!

[Guest jeffOH]

>There is no ESCORTS ONLY section.

 

It HAD been discussed here before and NOBODY said anything about not discussing it. All that was said was not to discuss the CONTENT of the ESCORTS ONLY section.

 

All I'd said in my first post to this thread was that Uriel might try the ESCORTS ONLY forum.x(

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Inappropriate Response

 

>There is no ESCORTS ONLY section.

>

>The membership to that section was by invitation only and it

>was not really meant to be discussed in open forums.

>

>Sorry, guys. I tried to help.

 

Hoo Boy, do you not feel that you should discuss this type of action with the participants of that forum prior to acting. Unlike other aspects of this site, where your editorial supervision is given, this forum is a community, and while we all agree that your provision of this Message Center affords you certain rights, do you not feel they should be exercised with some sense of responsibility to the end users?

 

Finally, I believe Jeff's assertion is fully correct, the section was not be specifically discussed, but knowledge that it existed and non-specific and general comments have long been made, by any number of escorts and clients or users of the Message Center.

 

Your response appears excessive, IMHO.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Inappropriate Response

 

>Your response appears excessive, IMHO.

 

I disagree. Daddy had posted rules at the top of that forum and as I recall, he said that no mention was to be made of an Escorts Only section in the other forums. I agree with Rod; it does suck that some of you couldn't follow a simple rule. That section was a gift from HooBoy to the escorts, with specific rules to guarantee client confidentiality (actually, this entire site is a gift to all of us; HooBoy can choose to close the whole thing down whenever he wants). While I never used "Escorts Only" for the purpose it was intended (I only posted the occasional flip comment) and rarely read the posts that were there, at least I respected the rules set up by the administrators of this site.

[duke37]

What's the big secret?

 

During the relaunch of the message center a complete list of all the active forums was available for anyone to see. So anyone who just happened to log in that day saw the existence of that forum. And of course it was discussed quite a bit when it was first launched.

 

In fact there was enough information inadvertantly posted to reveal the current bad situation of a very unfortunate midwestern escort.

 

Why close the door after the horses have left?

 

Jeff

[Guest jeffOH]

RE: Inappropriate Response

 

>>Your response appears excessive, IMHO.

>

>I disagree. Daddy had posted rules at the top of that forum

>and as I recall, he said that no mention was to be made of an

>Escorts Only section in the other forums.

 

My understanding was that the CONTENT of that forum was not to be discussed. The fact that it existed had been mentioned several times in the past and NO ONE said a word about merely mentioning its existence.

 

If the rules said, DO NOT MENTION THE EXISTENCE OF THIS FORUM ON ANY OTHER FORUM, I'd like to see that.

 

If I'm wrong, well then I stand corrected and apologize for divulging

this TOP SECRET information.

 

If it didn't say that, an apology for deleting what I believed to be an innocuous post is accepted.

 

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Agree to disagree

 

>>Your response appears excessive, IMHO.

>

>I disagree. Daddy had posted rules at the top of that forum

>and as I recall, he said that no mention was to be made of an

>Escorts Only section in the other forums. I agree with Rod;

>it does suck that some of you couldn't follow a simple rule.

 

 

Anyone can do what they want with this forum. However, to the extent it is a community, which is what a forum is, there are reasonable limits to what actions can and cannot be taken.

 

When that forum was envisioned, Daddy was not a moderator to it. When I was invited to join, he was not a moderator to it. When I was invited, the rules were simple: do not discuss specifics.

 

It is my recollection that you, yourself Rick, in the past, have made at least one non-specific, perhaps "flippant" reference, which is all I personally did. Other escorts, clients, escorts who were not members, and posters on this forum who did not appear to be clients, all have made such reference to it.

 

If Daddy posted different rules or I recall them differently than I believe I correctly do, I stand corrected as well, but frankly neither believe this is the case or the point.

 

I am not interested in getting into HE SAID/HE DID NOT SAY types of dialogues here, frankly I think enough time is wasted with this type of exchange on this site already.

 

Finally, gifts do not come with strings attached and gifts are given. They are not taken back.

[+ deej]

RE: Agree to disagree

 

>Finally, gifts do not come with strings attached and gifts are

>given. They are not taken back.

 

The gift, in this case, is a subscription. When the subscription ends, so does the gift. Or if publication ceases, so does the gift.

 

This discussion is exactly why escorts were asked to keep that forum under their hats. We haven't begun to see clients whining OH MY GOD THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT US? but it will likely happen.

 

It's a Pandora's box better left unopened, or the privilege may (rightly) be ended.