Undercover Escorts in RentMasseur

[Swazca]

More of a rant here.  
 

While perusing the ads in RentMasseur today I seriously came to wits end when I looked through a good ad only to go to the rates paid to them…

$250-500!?!?! For an hour session.  Obviously curbing RM’s “don’t tell” policy, it’s plainly clear that the services rendered were purely as an escort.  
 

I really wish that if escorting is the services these advertisers choose to provide, would it be proper for them to close the RentMasseur ad and just move over to Rent.men and simply advertise as an escort?  
 

It seems to be so tough to find a legitimate massage provider at a decent rate on the site.  When I found one who advertised as a “Certified” masseur, I end up reading the reviews only to be disappointed.  Hell, even their rates posted were low, then the reviews show $250+ from $85!

 

Feel free to bash me now. 

Edited June 4, 2022 by Swazca

[needbodywork]

First off don't believe everything you read in the reviews. Anyone can write a review easily including the masseur and his friends.

For the reviews that may be real... A lot of masseurs will have a base rate and add significant fees for extra services. For example a therapeutic only massage might be $150. For it to become "full service" it might be an extra $200-250. In this case they are giving both the massage and the "full service" so they charge and can get away with the high price.  Many clients want both options in the same session.

 

[Swazca]

15 minutes ago, needbodywork said:

First off don't believe everything you read in the reviews. Anyone can write a review easily including the masseur and his friends.

For the reviews that may be real... A lot of masseurs will have a base rate and add significant fees for extra services. For example a therapeutic only massage might be $150. For it to become "full service" it might be an extra $200-250. In this case they are giving both the massage and the "full service" so they charge and can get away with the high price.  Many clients want both options in the same session.

 

Then they should all filter over to the escort side plain and simple.  It’s so misleading when you’re wanting to make a decision and end up dropping because the provider isn’t what they advertise.  This is the point I’m making.  

[allyouknow]

It would be great if prices are posted. 

[Swazca]

31 minutes ago, allyouknow said:

It would be great if prices are posted. 

That’s when you really know their intent on the site. 

[starman05]

this site has saved me so much $ and tear$. I honestly would like nothing 'more' than a relaxing massage from a trained professional. 

I'll be close to hiring a therapist, but I come here first and find out that they're actually more of an escort. 

Listed prices aren't always an indicator of what I'll be getting. 

[Jamie21]

Unfortunately it’s hit and miss. You can ask the therapist about what’s included for the price etc but until you try him out you’ll never know for sure whether his massage style / technique is good for you.

I see clients who just want a great massage done by a guy, some even don’t want me to do it naked. There’s no sexual arousal included - at their request. They just like the massage but my rate is the same.

Other clients like the massage to progress quickly to more of an escort type session. Kind of half massage and half sex. Usually that’s an outcall and the massage is on a bed. Unless I’m bottoming the rate is the same. I think it ruins the session if we have to stop part way through for me to say “oh that’s extra, are you ok to pay for that” or to stop from doing something that has progressed naturally because it wasn’t in the pre paid menu.

I charge extra to bottom in a massage because of the extra time it takes to prepare but that’s the only extra. 

[Swazca]

6 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Unfortunately it’s hit and miss. You can ask the therapist about what’s included for the price etc but until you try him out you’ll never know for sure whether his massage style / technique is good for you.

I see clients who just want a great massage done by a guy, some even don’t want me to do it naked. There’s no sexual arousal included - at their request. They just like the massage but my rate is the same.

Other clients like the massage to progress quickly to more of an escort type session. Kind of half massage and half sex. Usually that’s an outcall and the massage is on a bed. Unless I’m bottoming the rate is the same. I think it ruins the session if we have to stop part way through for me to say “oh that’s extra, are you ok to pay for that” or to stop from doing something that has progressed naturally because it wasn’t in the pre paid menu.

I charge extra to bottom in a massage because of the extra time it takes to prepare but that’s the only extra. 

I simply avoid this type of setup altogether.  
 

I really wish that providers and clients who seek escort pivoted services would move this business to Rent.men.  It’s certainly segregated on this forum massage versus escorting.  Notwithstanding the fact that clients within the massage side of the forum still push the subject towards escorting regardless.  I’d say both are to blame for where things currently are on the site.  
 

It takes work to find legitimate massage and when you do find such providers they don’t stick around that long or they switch their service points to more escorting.  Like seriously if need to fuck that’s what Grindr is there for… I don’t need to pay for sex.

[Jamie21]

26 minutes ago, Swazca said:

I simply avoid this type of setup altogether.  
 

I really wish that providers and clients who seek escort pivoted services would move this business to Rent.men.  It’s certainly segregated on this forum massage versus escorting.  Notwithstanding the fact that clients within the massage side of the forum still push the subject towards escorting regardless.  I’d say both are to blame for where things currently are on the site.  
 

It takes work to find legitimate massage and when you do find such providers they don’t stick around that long or they switch their service points to more escorting.  Like seriously if need to fuck that’s what Grindr is there for… I don’t need to pay for sex.

I think that if you’re looking for therapeutic only massage then there’s probably more appropriate sites than Rentmasseur. Just look at the pictures on Rentmasseur, most of the masseurs are wearing very little and it’s clear that the service is more than a spa style massage. If you’re looking for therapeutic only on Rentmasseur you’ll not find it very easily. 

Also if you equate a Grindr fuck with a session with a good escort or masseur then you’re not comparing like with like. 

[Swazca]

4 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I think that if you’re looking for therapeutic only massage then there’s probably more appropriate sites than Rentmasseur. Just look at the pictures on Rentmasseur, most of the masseurs are wearing very little and it’s clear that the service is more than a spa style massage. If you’re looking for therapeutic only on Rentmasseur you’ll not find it very easily. 

Also if you equate a Grindr fuck with a session with a good escort or masseur then you’re not comparing like with like. 

Again, not something I need to experience or purchase. 
 

I’m sure you do quite well at the whole “porn” experience and more power to you and those you serve, but again I’m venting my opinions here and feel that if rentmasseur is to be geared as a massage site it should be - that.  
 

Otherwise, desegregate the discussion on this exact forum thread and say exactly the sex that is being provided as within “Daddy’s Den.”  Cause really what are you trying to hide under the premise of securing a providers “licensing” or — lack there of.

[Jamie21]

I’m not suggesting you do need to experience it, but many do. No I disagree that Rentmasseur is to be geared as a massage site. It’s completely legitimate to offer a proper massage (by someone who is trained) and include as part of that sexual services. There’s a demand  for it, and Rentmasseur serves that market. In some jurisdictions (fortunately not mine) guys offering sexual services as part of massage have to be discreet about it. I expect that’s why some of the adverts on there are ambiguous. 

It sounds like you’re wanting to order an Italian dish in a Mexican restaurant so to speak. If you want Mexican go to a Mexican restaurant. Don’t complain that there’s only Pizza and Pasta on the menu in an Italian restaurant. 

[Swazca]

12 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I’m not suggesting you do need to experience it, but many do. No I disagree that Rentmasseur is to be geared as a massage site. It’s completely legitimate to offer a proper massage (by someone who is trained) and include as part of that sexual services. There’s a demand  for it, and Rentmasseur serves that market. In some jurisdictions (fortunately not mine) guys offering sexual services as part of massage have to be discreet about it. I expect that’s why some of the adverts on there are ambiguous. 

It sounds like you’re wanting to order an Italian dish in a Mexican restaurant so to speak. If you want Mexican go to a Mexican restaurant. Don’t complain that there’s only Pizza and Pasta on the menu in an Italian restaurant. 

Therein lies the axe you wish to grind with me, and that is Rentmasseur as an escort site.  That argument is asinine.  The very nature of the site is for massage.  The very nature of Rent.men is for escorting.  This is my point!  
 

Apparently this isn’t coming through clear enough.  The very definition of masseur is the operative action of providing a massage.  The sexual actions then bisects escorting as the main attraction and what has made Rentmasseur a primary escort site versus legitimate massage.  
 

I warned this was a rant, however your argument in favor of escorting on a ‘massage’ site seems to be lost in translation here.

[Jamie21]

I’ve no axe to grind with you, I’m just trying to explain that I think you’re viewing something as binary when it really isn’t so. At one end of the spectrum is pure escorting, at the other end is therapeutic massage, however  there is a middle point where the two merge; aspects of massage and aspects of escorting. That’s where I operate and where I think many on Rentmasseur do too. There’s a market for it evidently, hence the number of providers on Rentmasseur. 

I apologise if I misread you but it does seem to be that you’re more annoyed at the rates being requested on Rentmasseur than the nature of the service provided? 

 

 

 

 

[+ EVdude]

While I get your frustration, the bottom line is that there are many trained masseurs offering stellar technical massage over a spectrum of experiences… therapeutic thru full service.

First and foremost for me is the technical massage, and on a massage table, in everyone I see. Beyond that, I pick the masseur that matches my mood and desire of the moment. Sometimes I want deep purely therapeutic, other times I want more relaxing and sensual, and yes I do on occasion go to wonderfully trained masseurs that I know at the end will hop up on the table with me.

I would be very unhappy trying to find these trained masseurs on RentMen.

[maninsoma]

A lot of guys advertise on both Rentmen and Rentmasseur, and I've always viewed it as this:

Rentmen is for men who know they want a full service experience.

Rentmasseur is for men who want a more than spa type of massage but aren't necessarily looking for full service.

If a guy's base rate for massage is the same as his escort rate, then clearly his focus isn't massage.  A guy with a lower rate on Rentmasseur than on Rentmen is likely providing a different service depending on where the client found him.  I'm not bothered by this at all.  What is bothersome to me are ads that clearly focus on the erotic aspect of the massage that end up being both a poor therapeutic massage and lacking in any sort of eroticism.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

2 hours ago, Swazca said:

Therein lies the axe you wish to grind with me, and that is Rentmasseur as an escort site.  That argument is asinine.  The very nature of the site is for massage.  The very nature of Rent.men is for escorting.  This is my point!  
 

Apparently this isn’t coming through clear enough.  The very definition of masseur is the operative action of providing a massage.  The sexual actions then bisects escorting as the main attraction and what has made Rentmasseur a primary escort site versus legitimate massage.  
 

I warned this was a rant, however your argument in favor of escorting on a ‘massage’ site seems to be lost in translation here.

I'm not sure where you live, but if you're looking for a true therapeutic massage with no sexual elements, there are many spas, as well as Soothe and Zeel, where you can hire a therapist to come to your place. I've used all three in the past and there's no hanky panky in any of those situations. 

I get your gripe with Rentmasseur. I've been annoyed by the proliferation of guys who are purely escorts on that site but there are options to avoid that situation if you're looking for just a purely therapeutic massage. 

[Bluefin]

Anecdotal: I hired for a massage and about 10 min in he started to move things in an escort direction. I stopped him and he said “oh you really want a massage - most guys only say they want a massage”.

Makes me wonder if in some cases supply is changing to meet demand…

[Swazca]

That’s my whole point guys — exactly that — the flood of advertisers on RentMasseur literally flood the site as Escorts when the true reality it’s supposed to be for massage.  The same company owns and manages both RentMasseur and Rent.men.  How hard is it to just advertise where that demand is and where that pointed service is sought?  
 

I have tried all spectrums of RentMasseur types to find that a vast majority want to just escort and not do the massage.  I pick the guys with muscles a majority of the time because it’s nothing for them to give hard pressure which is what I want.  But as I stated above — I could list a number of providers I have found and they started great, but they pivot to escorting or drop out from massage altogether. 
 

Looking at the rates and reviews is one method I use to sort through who is legit and who is not.  But Masseur Finder isn’t any better in my opinion.  They just happen to regulate ads much more than RentMasseur.  At least they learned from the fiasco that was “Rentboy.com.”  Honestly, it won’t surprise me at some point the Feds either prosecute RentMasseur or it gets block from use in the United States.  

[HornyLatinBi]

interesting discussion here, thanks everyone

the ONLY difference between the 2 RMs I see at this point, is that on rentMasseur I can find some guys who honestly are into the true spiritual science of bodyworking (licensed or not) while on rentMen such a conversation would just feel totally out of place

i am always on the hunt for guys who do introduce a kind of mindfulness into their sexual work and even though i wish there were sites that were more specifically into that, for now rentMasseur is as close as i can ever get.

agreed?

[allyouknow]

When I want a sensual massage with a sexy gay man I go to Rentmassuer, when I want full on sex I go to rentmen.  Maybe I am just more clear with my own wishes and desires. The whole "this may be full on ..." is annoying when hiring under the pretext of massage and I thought in this day and age with clarity of options this would be more understood. 

 

[Jamie21]

10 hours ago, HornyLatinBi said:

interesting discussion here, thanks everyone

the ONLY difference between the 2 RMs I see at this point, is that on rentMasseur I can find some guys who honestly are into the true spiritual science of bodyworking (licensed or not) while on rentMen such a conversation would just feel totally out of place

i am always on the hunt for guys who do introduce a kind of mindfulness into their sexual work and even though i wish there were sites that were more specifically into that, for now rentMasseur is as close as i can ever get.

agreed?

Yes this. Mindless fucks may be had on hook up apps but someone professional who is focused on your enjoyment and who understands male arousal (or female arousal for that matter) is usually more often found via providers. I think the biggest sex organ is the brain, start there and work down 😉. 

[HornyLatinBi]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Yes this. Mindless fucks may be had on hook up apps but someone professional who is focused on your enjoyment and who understands male arousal (or female arousal for that matter) is usually more often found via providers. I think the biggest sex organ is the brain, start there and work down 😉. 

wow.... and this 100 times over!!

[+ ButchAtl]

I am neither an escort or masseur, so I don't know...but I have heard that the cost of an RentMasseur as is less than RentMen.  If that's true, then I wonder if a higher ad cost might be contributing to the number or high priced "masseurs" ?  But, again, there are those who advertise both places.   

[+ Ocposterboy]

I always find it interesting when they list their health status. Why would you need to share that information (besides Covid vaccination status) if you weren’t thinking something might happen or could be available to happen beyond the regular massage session?