Is it worth your time to advertise around major holidays?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I’m hoping this doesn’t ruffle any feathers... or invite unnecessary judgement (hint, hint) but I feel like many years, I always find myself regretting advertising around holidays and not having another “holiday” gig: namely the Thanksgiving thru New Years ones. This year has been no different. And due to personal things coming up, it always seems like trying to have a proper job around the holidays never pans out. At this point I was only able to keep 1 or 2 ads running.

 

So far, all it’s been are possibilities and scheduled visits that fall thru for whatever reason. Usually work or schedule or something else that comes up on their end. I’ve been trying my hardest to get bookings, yet thus far it’s already been 8 days since my last appointment. I’m answering texts and coordinating appointments, yet not generating the revenue.

 

Considering it wasn’t as busy going into the holidays, I didn’t have as much of a cushion to “go on vacation” for the remainder of the year anyway.

Edited December 22, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Luv2play]

I think it’s a mixed bag depending on where one is. I just blew a wad on an overnight a couple of days ago. Today the provincial government here (Ontario) just declared a shutdown effective the day after Christmas. So probably won’t be doing any hiring in January. It’s frustrating because we have very few cases in our part of the province.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I think it’s a mixed bag depending on where one is. I just blew a wad on an overnight a couple of days ago. Today the provincial government here (Ontario) just declared a shutdown effective the day after Christmas. So probably won’t be doing any hiring in January. It’s frustrating because we have very few cases in our part of the province.

 

I can imagine things being different in Ontario. I’ve had a client visit me in Detroit from there.

 

I try to post up because I do know there’s a select few looking for a bit of holiday “fun” and getting a break, and I did score a 2 hour appointment on that last one I mentioned. But since then it’s already been a couple locally and out of town that have fell thru or not returned messages. I did however meet with another escort friend and filmed some content, but even though he had 5 or 6 no shows, he did still manage to score 3 other clients in the area.

 

At this rate, I’ve decided to just pull all my nearby city locations and stay local til end of month because I had packed up to go to 2 places within 3 hour drive, yet had appointments in both locations not go thru. Both citing either family or work conflicts.

[marylander1940]

I’m hoping this doesn’t ruffle any feathers... or invite unnecessary judgement (hint, hint) but I feel like many years, I always find myself regretting advertising around holidays and not having another “holiday” gig: namely the Thanksgiving thru New Years ones. This year has been no different. And due to personal things coming up, it always seems like trying to have a proper job around the holidays never pans out. At this point I was only able to keep 1 or 2 ads running.

 

So far, all it’s been are possibilities and scheduled visits that fall thru for whatever reason. Usually work or schedule or something else that comes up on their end. I’ve been trying my hardest to get bookings, yet thus far it’s already been 8 days since my last appointment. I’m answering texts and coordinating appointments, yet not generating the revenue.

 

Considering it wasn’t as busy going into the holidays, I didn’t have as much of a cushion to “go on vacation” for the remainder of the year anyway.

 

RM is only 80 per month... if you get one client because he saw you during Christmas and hired you later that's a profit.

 

Why skipping one month of advertising because of this time of the year is usually slow? Even if they don't hire you now they might later.

 

Would you seriously consider getting a part time job next December? What if you miss a call because you're busy?

[Maximiliam]

RM is only 80 per month... if you get one client because he saw you during Christmas and hired you later that's a profit.

 

Why skipping one month of advertising because of this time of the year is usually slow? Even if they don't hire you now they might later.

 

Would you seriously consider getting a part time job next December? What if you miss a call because you're busy?

How much is RM when you freeze the account?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

RM is only 80 per month... if you get one client because he saw you during Christmas and hired you later that's a profit.

 

Why skipping one month of advertising because of this time of the year is usually slow? Even if they don't hire you now they might later.

 

Would you seriously consider getting a part time job next December? What if you miss a call because you're busy?

 

Well remember: one can still pay for an ad, and then freeze it, and pick up where they left off. E.g. if I have 17 days left, I can freeze til January 2nd, and still have 17 days left. I renewed my ad last Sunday (and you stand correct, I did get a client from it the same day). It’s part of RentMen’s Covid safe mode.

 

And yes, by technicality it’s only $80 a month...but it’s not just the price point that matters. It’s the fact that spending a lot of leg work responding to inquiries when guys are either:

 

A) using the platform to kill time/boredom between family/down time from work (which usually results in last minute cancels or no call/no show)

B) making appointment requests, but then they having to cancel due to “my mom/kids/wife/hubby/Mary Poppins” showed up or “work is crazy this time

C) letting paid ad time go un-used because nobody is contacting to begin with. When it could be put on hold and places during a more opportunistic period.

 

So after a few days or couple of weeks of the above, I’ve lost any holiday spirit I could conjure up. Worn down from getting my hopes up, and really just want to either freeze my ads or take down my number (which I’ve often had to do on 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and likely Christmas and New Year’s next). Memorial and Labor Day or more of the same, except it’s not as lingering as the winter holidays.

 

Just today I had to explain to 2 individuals, as to why they should be compensating me for having to re-neg and cancel their appointment requests (Both which were faults of their own and nothing I was aware of). I said, out of courtesy, you should have the integrity to pay me for the expected earnings that you created, since you had to cancel for reasons that weren’t discussed at time of booking (one said work/kids, the other said work flying him out early to save the company money).

 

They wanted to reason and say that I’m not worth $50-100 just to text about stuff. I had to remind them: I am 1 person, not a big company with multiple employees and customers. If you contact me and have me spending my time coordinating schedules, packing bags, thinking of ways to try and make it work and they fall thru...I don’t get paid.

 

And I also told them: that Rentmen ad you contacted me on; costs me money. This phone you texting me on; costs money. The car I would drive and the hotel I would book; costs money. So don’t tell me that my time spent arranging an appointment that YOU initiated isn’t worth being paid for. Some guys are even sending me pictures of themselves, and still not following thru.

 

That is asking a lot considering I would spend more time exchanging messages with people, than actually meeting people if I didn’t have a deposit strategy.

[Maximiliam]

Well remember: one can still pay for an ad, and then freeze it, and pick up where they left off. E.g. if I have 17 days left, I can freeze til January 2nd, and still have 17 days left. I renewed my ad last Sunday (and you stand correct, I did get a client from it the same day). It’s part of RentMen’s Covid safe mode.

 

And yes, by technicality it’s only $80 a month...but it’s not just the price point that matters. It’s the fact that spending a lot of leg work responding to inquiries when guys are either:

 

A) using the platform to kill time/boredom between family/down time from work (which usually results in last minute cancels or no call/no show)

B) making appointment requests, but then they having to cancel due to “my mom/kids/wife/hubby/Mary Poppins” showed up or “work is crazy this time

C) letting paid ad time go un-used because nobody is contacting to begin with. When it could be put on hold and places during a more opportunistic period.

 

So after a few days or couple of weeks of the above, I’ve lost any holiday spirit I could conjure up. Worn down from getting my hopes up, and really just want to either freeze my ads or take down my number (which I’ve often had to do on 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and likely Christmas and New Year’s next). Memorial and Labor Day or more of the same, except it’s not as lingering as the winter holidays.

 

Just today I had to explain to 2 individuals, as to why they should be compensating me for having to re-neg and cancel their appointment requests (Both which were faults of their own and nothing I was aware of). I said, out of courtesy, you should have the integrity to pay me for the expected earnings that you created, since you had to cancel for reasons that weren’t discussed at time of booking (one said work/kids, the other said work flying him out early to save the company money).

 

They wanted to reason and say that I’m not worth $50-100 just to text about stuff. I had to remind them: I am 1 person, not a big company with multiple employees and customers. If you contact me and have me spending my time coordinating schedules, packing bags, thinking of ways to try and make it work and they fall thru...I don’t get paid.

 

And I also told them: that Rentmen ad you contacted me on; costs me money. This phone you texting me on; costs money. The car I would drive and the hotel I would book; costs money. So don’t tell me that my time spent arranging an appointment that YOU initiated isn’t worth being paid for. Some guys are even sending me pictures of themselves, and still not following thru.

 

That is asking a lot considering I would spend more time exchanging messages with people, than actually meeting people if I didn’t have a deposit strategy.

So when you freeze it u still paying 80 or less and when you freeze it , whats is the maximum days or weeks you could ?

[Maximiliam]

Well remember: one can still pay for an ad, and then freeze it, and pick up where they left off. E.g. if I have 17 days left, I can freeze til January 2nd, and still have 17 days left. I renewed my ad last Sunday (and you stand correct, I did get a client from it the same day). It’s part of RentMen’s Covid safe mode.

 

And yes, by technicality it’s only $80 a month...but it’s not just the price point that matters. It’s the fact that spending a lot of leg work responding to inquiries when guys are either:

 

A) using the platform to kill time/boredom between family/down time from work (which usually results in last minute cancels or no call/no show)

B) making appointment requests, but then they having to cancel due to “my mom/kids/wife/hubby/Mary Poppins” showed up or “work is crazy this time

C) letting paid ad time go un-used because nobody is contacting to begin with. When it could be put on hold and places during a more opportunistic period.

 

So after a few days or couple of weeks of the above, I’ve lost any holiday spirit I could conjure up. Worn down from getting my hopes up, and really just want to either freeze my ads or take down my number (which I’ve often had to do on 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and likely Christmas and New Year’s next). Memorial and Labor Day or more of the same, except it’s not as lingering as the winter holidays.

 

Just today I had to explain to 2 individuals, as to why they should be compensating me for having to re-neg and cancel their appointment requests (Both which were faults of their own and nothing I was aware of). I said, out of courtesy, you should have the integrity to pay me for the expected earnings that you created, since you had to cancel for reasons that weren’t discussed at time of booking (one said work/kids, the other said work flying him out early to save the company money).

 

They wanted to reason and say that I’m not worth $50-100 just to text about stuff. I had to remind them: I am 1 person, not a big company with multiple employees and customers. If you contact me and have me spending my time coordinating schedules, packing bags, thinking of ways to try and make it work and they fall thru...I don’t get paid.

 

And I also told them: that Rentmen ad you contacted me on; costs me money. This phone you texting me on; costs money. The car I would drive and the hotel I would book; costs money. So don’t tell me that my time spent arranging an appointment that YOU initiated isn’t worth being paid for. Some guys are even sending me pictures of themselves, and still not following thru.

 

That is asking a lot considering I would spend more time exchanging messages with people, than actually meeting people if I didn’t have a deposit strategy.

You could so ask some if they want videos instead this much for x about and the type of videos u do . You could make money like that instead of meeting people

[Jarrod_Uncut]

You could so ask some if they want videos instead this much for x about and the type of videos u do . You could make money like that instead of meeting people

 

I’m doing that already thru my Just For Fans page

 

At the end of the day though, selling videos doesn’t match a $250 or $300 appointment. I do still refer missed connections to my JFF, but sometimes if I feel there was an expectation made to be paid for a session, I prefer to be at least partially reimbursed for the session...and then I’ll send them a free subscription to my videos.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Using these quotes from another thread as examples. I want to say let’s pretend Covid doesn’t exist, and people would be busy anyway...but since it is existent, it is obviously like 2 gargantuan vacations at once:

 

 

In the past, I've not taken part in this hobby much after the first weekend in December, so this year will not be much different.

 

My work schedule is usually busy getting things completed prior to year-end. And then I spend time visiting my family out of town. By January, I'm ready to get back in the swing of things.

 

I haven't hired since, I think, October, and even then I was wary. I'm having dinner on Christmas Day with a friend who has a compromised immune system, so I've been strictly quarantining.

[+ mature_guy]

Well remember: one can still pay for an ad, and then freeze it, and pick up where they left off. E.g. if I have 17 days left, I can freeze til January 2nd, and still have 17 days left. I renewed my ad last Sunday (and you stand correct, I did get a client from it the same day). It’s part of RentMen’s Covid safe mode.

 

And yes, by technicality it’s only $80 a month...but it’s not just the price point that matters. It’s the fact that spending a lot of leg work responding to inquiries when guys are either:

 

A) using the platform to kill time/boredom between family/down time from work (which usually results in last minute cancels or no call/no show)

B) making appointment requests, but then they having to cancel due to “my mom/kids/wife/hubby/Mary Poppins” showed up or “work is crazy this time

C) letting paid ad time go un-used because nobody is contacting to begin with. When it could be put on hold and places during a more opportunistic period.

 

So after a few days or couple of weeks of the above, I’ve lost any holiday spirit I could conjure up. Worn down from getting my hopes up, and really just want to either freeze my ads or take down my number (which I’ve often had to do on 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and likely Christmas and New Year’s next). Memorial and Labor Day or more of the same, except it’s not as lingering as the winter holidays.

 

Just today I had to explain to 2 individuals, as to why they should be compensating me for having to re-neg and cancel their appointment requests (Both which were faults of their own and nothing I was aware of). I said, out of courtesy, you should have the integrity to pay me for the expected earnings that you created, since you had to cancel for reasons that weren’t discussed at time of booking (one said work/kids, the other said work flying him out early to save the company money).

 

They wanted to reason and say that I’m not worth $50-100 just to text about stuff. I had to remind them: I am 1 person, not a big company with multiple employees and customers. If you contact me and have me spending my time coordinating schedules, packing bags, thinking of ways to try and make it work and they fall thru...I don’t get paid.

 

And I also told them: that Rentmen ad you contacted me on; costs me money. This phone you texting me on; costs money. The car I would drive and the hotel I would book; costs money. So don’t tell me that my time spent arranging an appointment that YOU initiated isn’t worth being paid for. Some guys are even sending me pictures of themselves, and still not following thru.

 

That is asking a lot considering I would spend more time exchanging messages with people, than actually meeting people if I didn’t have a deposit strategy.

 

Is the client compensating for canceling a rare occurrence? I had to cancel an appointment recently due to an unexpected (and unwelcomed) change in my schedule. The few times over many years that this has happened I always insist on sending the escort something, usually $100 or so. I've never thought about sending the entire fee, but I feel that sending something is appropriate. Easier now with Venmo, PayPal, etc., but back in the day I thought nothing of slipping a few bills or a check in the mail. Is this not common?

[Luv2play]

Is the client compensating for canceling a rare occurrence? I had to cancel an appointment recently due to an unexpected (and unwelcomed) change in my schedule. The few times over many years that this has happened I always insist on sending the escort something, usually $100 or so. I've never thought about sending the entire fee, but I feel that sending something is appropriate. Easier now with Venmo, PayPal, etc., but back in the day I thought nothing of slipping a few bills or a check in the mail. Is this not common?

I do the same. I usually hire for multi hour and for the few times I have had to cancel I sent a 1 hour fee. I e-transfer to their bank account. It’s simple and they appreciate it. I’m a repeat client anyway so we look forward to the next time.

[+ keroscenefire]

Normally, I'm down to meet quite often around the holidays since I am off work for two weeks for Christmas/New Years and a week for Thanksgiving. This year unfortunately, it's been a little different because I agreed to semi-quarantine so I can have dinner with my immediate family on Christmas. So I haven't been around anyone for already nearly a week. Fortunately Christmas is on a Friday this year and I think I am going to set something up for the week after.

[Guy Fawkes]

No.

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I’m hoping this doesn’t ruffle any feathers... or invite unnecessary judgement (hint, hint) but I feel like many years, I always find myself regretting advertising around holidays and not having another “holiday” gig: namely the Thanksgiving thru New Years ones.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Is the client compensating for canceling a rare occurrence? I had to cancel an appointment recently due to an unexpected (and unwelcomed) change in my schedule. The few times over many years that this has happened I always insist on sending the escort something, usually $100 or so. I've never thought about sending the entire fee, but I feel that sending something is appropriate. Easier now with Venmo, PayPal, etc., but back in the day I thought nothing of slipping a few bills or a check in the mail. Is this not common?

 

That is the appropriate gesture to do, and I wish this concept would spread to more guys who patronize online sex workers. Unfortunently, there’s a lot of people out here who...they don’t see us as individuals. They look at us in the eyes of other “bills”, e.g. they didn’t use the service therefore they aren’t going to pay for it.

 

And I had to explain to 2 people earlier this week: “You made an expectation that I was going to be paid, you had schedule changes that was outside of my control and had to cancel the deal you offered. Therefore, why should I have to be duped out of something I expected, just because YOU didn’t ensure your schedule would allow for this, BEFORE you contacted me”. So, out of courtesy and integrity, do right by me and give me something to offset the lost income.

 

Lot of people will argue over that, others I hardly have to explain it. But lately it’s been a lot more people needing it explained, and it’s been a wild ride in 2020. And I’m ready to jump on the next bus:

 

 

 

That said, I did go ahead and renew 1 other ad this month, just because now Christmas is going to be over by the end of the week. Obviously it’s going to be a long weekend, but since it is on a Friday, there will be the opportunity to jump off at the new start of the week. Also like @marylander1940 said, I know people are going to be looking and possibly booking for January. However, I’m probably am going to turn my phone off from Christmas night thru Sunday.

[Maximiliam]

That is the appropriate gesture to do, and I wish this concept would spread to more guys who patronize online sex workers. Unfortunently, there’s a lot of people out here who...they don’t see us as individuals. They look at us in the eyes of other “bills”, e.g. they didn’t use the service therefore they aren’t going to pay for it.

 

And I had to explain to 2 people earlier this week: “You made an expectation that I was going to be paid, you had schedule changes that was outside of my control and had to cancel the deal you offered. Therefore, why should I have to be duped out of something I expected, just because YOU didn’t ensure your schedule would allow for this, BEFORE you contacted me”. So, out of courtesy and integrity, do right by me and give me something to offset the lost income.

 

Lot of people will argue over that, others I hardly have to explain it. But lately it’s been a lot more people needing it explained, and it’s been a wild ride in 2020. And I’m ready to jump on the next bus:

 

 

 

That said, I did go ahead and renew 1 other ad this month, just because now Christmas is going to be over by the end of the week. Obviously it’s going to be a long weekend, but since it is on a Friday, there will be the opportunity to jump off at the new start of the week. Also like @marylander1940 said, I know people are going to be looking and possibly booking for January. However, I’m probably am going to turn my phone off from Christmas night thru Sunday.

Tbh honest it is like other services . Your paying for a kind of entertainment with another human being nevertheless still a service . If I didn't get the service I am not in any form obligated to pay for it . Even if I change my schedule or cancel , I am not obligated to pay you because I didn't use your time , we didn't meet so therefore not obligated. We did not form a contract and if you are in this business you know things like this majority of time and that also happen with regulars so . I am sorry that happen to you but its the business

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

Tbh honest it is like other services . Your paying for a kind of entertainment with another human being nevertheless still a service . If I didn't get the service I am not in any form obligated to pay for it . Even if I change my schedule or cancel , I am not obligated to pay you because I didn't use your time , we didn't meet so therefore not obligated. We did not form a contract and if you are in this business you know things like this majority of time and that also happen with regulars so . I am sorry that happen to you but its the business

If I make an appointment for a doctor, lawyer, tutor, or personal trainer and show up late or not at all, I am still charged for the service or dropped as a client. It is unethical to book and then not show up, as it is too late for the provider to sell his time that he had reserved for me.

 

While I do not pay escorts in advance, I never cancel without at least a day's notice. If I show up late to an appointment due to traffic, I expect to pay the full fee even if my time is cut short due to my tardiness.

Edited December 24, 2020 by Vegas_nw1982

[Maximiliam]

If I make an appointment for a doctor, lawyer, tutor, or personal trainer and show up late or not at all, I am still charged for the service or dropped as a client. It is unethical to book and then not show up, as it is too late for the provider to sell his time that he had reserved for me.

 

While I do not pay escorts in advance, I never cancel without at least a day's notice. If I show up late to an appointment due to traffic, I expect to pay the full fee even if my time is cut short due to my tardiness.

good for you ?

[Ntoomuscle]

I’m a Realtor. I experience the same thing with clients who at the last minute cancel an appointment. I normally spend 1-2 hours preparing for that appointment and many times they will say, we decided to go with another agent. I say this because it’s just part of being self employed. I don’t explain any of that to the potential client because I may get them back at some point. They really don’t understand the work I do to get prepared for a professional presentation. I mentor lots of new agents and my advice is the same, as a self employed person, you need a minimum of 6 months reserved for times like these. I track my numbers and I know that I have to have 30-40% more appointments because I know some are going to fall apart. Track numbers and you will be able to see that on average, I book this number of clients over time. That way there isn’t as much emotion in it because you will know that the law of averages will work in the long run. You can’t control people (believe me, I’ve tried) you can only control your activities. When someone looks at your profile, do you send a quick note? I have really appreciated that when an escort sends a note and have booked them. Treat it like a business and have a schedule with activities you do every day!! Hope that helps!!