Slow Down in Booking?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

There's no way Biden/Harris will do anything about F/S for awhile because they'd be accused of being soft on crime, one of the issues in the campaign. Maybe later, since even Republicans have to admit their leader hires escorts.

 

I refer to "high class" travelers, who advertise, act, and charge as such. I never could stand that attitude.

 

I hope not. I think they'll be open to lend an ear and give in provided they don't get sidetracked by corona and police reform. Which all needs addressing, BUT.

 

That's why (off topic and not trying to get too political, but I guess it would matter in pertaining to slow down in bookings) I've not been particularly enthusiastic about the BLM ✋? movement, even though I am a BLM. Only because I don't want to be watered down to a 3 letter acronym or 3 word sentence. I want something more specific:

 

BGEMALM: Because gay escorts making a living, matters.

 

It's convenient and easy to acknowledge the B, but then forget about the g and the e. There's plenty of people who agree BLM, but yet have an issue with the gay and escort part. Add in Black, suddenly it becomes an issue of least concern.

 

"Wake up, and suddenly...you're least concerned" (that better not be Kamala Harris)

 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ keroscenefire]

 

Denver long ago out saturated their market. I moved there back in 2010/2011, it was a feeding frenzy. Men4Rent, Craig’s and backpage. Guys have tried to turn it into some kinda partying sex workers paradise, and it couldn’t support the influx.

 

Yeah I think Denver doesn't have a ton of clients because I get hit up by traveling escorts that I've met before pretty often. I feel bad because I just had to tell two traveling regulars that I'm not hiring leading up to my trip to NYC. I hate to not meet up with my regulars but I just don't have the budget to travel to NYC and hire there and hire right before the trip. But I hope to meet up with them next time they come into town.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Yeah I think Denver doesn't have a ton of clients because I get hit up by traveling escorts that I've met before pretty often. I feel bad because I just had to tell two traveling regulars that I'm not hiring leading up to my trip to NYC. I hate to not meet up with my regulars but I just don't have the budget to travel to NYC and hire there and hire right before the trip. But I hope to meet up with them next time they come into town.

 

There actually was a ton of clients in Denver, and probably still is lol. It's just too many guys trying to compete for those tons. Not to mention the wealthier mountainous resort areas are brimming with money, albeit not a whole lot of "gay" money...but the bi and curious crowd in Denver and Colorado in general was really what kept me afloat when I was there.

 

The main issue is when too many (especially questionable) "providers" come into a market that's not fit to handle it. I was fortunate to be able to hit Denver during it's heydays of backpage and men4rent/RB, but too many escorts there trying to make it...and Denver was really just a conservative best kept secret. Perhaps with more legalized marijuana, things could even out.

 

Not to mention, there's many other mountain Western towns in the region that need a further gay revival: Cheyenne, Billings, Albuquerque. Unfortunately gay male escorting is almost unheard of to the first 2, whereas ABQ can only support so much as well. Some trips there it seems great, I can go back a month later and it could be completely dead.

 

It'd be nice if similar to places like Arizona and Florida, Fort Collins and Co Springs could be get away towns with a decent population of clients. But sadly that's just not the case. I probably have come across no more than 10 clients in all the 10 years I've been in and out of Colorado, in both towns. Add that up lol.

Edited August 25, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Armann]

I have been put since the last week of february, ironically Denver was my last city to work and i had only two clients in three days, COVID was already a big problem and the city was nearly shot down, downtown where i stayed was a ghost town, i guess that was the reason. I am ready to start my travel the last week of september and i know for a fact that i will not be able to see all my regulars, specially the older ones, they are reluctant to meet until there is a vaccine, on the other hand my younger regular clients dont seem bothered and they say will book with me. I travel mostly to the small midwest market and my travels are always good, i worry abou this time, but i cant stay home much longer, so lets see how it goes, i will take all precautions necessary and taking some medications to strenght my immune system and be strong and healthy in case i come accross someone with the virus.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I travel mostly to the small midwest market and my travels are always good, i worry abou this time, but i cant stay home much longer, so lets see how it goes, i will take all precautions necessary and taking some medications to strenght my immune system and be strong and healthy in case i come accross someone with the virus.

 

Some days I feel like things are busier, at other times I feel like I just want to quit and leave the biz. Everytime I look around there's something else going on, and I'm really not making that much money anyway. Trying to get into a new incall spot and seeing most of the places I want are $800+ a month, and then everytime cases go up or protests break out, it's another quiet few days or week.

 

I'm just getting fucking fed up with this shit.

Edited August 26, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Armann]

Some days I feel like things are busier, at other times I feel like I just want to quit and leave the biz. Everytime I look around there's something else going on, and I'm really not making that much money anyway. Trying to get into a new incall spot and seeing most of the places I want are $800+ a month, and then everytime cases go up or protests break out, it's another quiet few days or week.

 

I'm just getting fucking fed up with this shit.

Hang in there, things will get better and there will always be clients for your services. Everywhere i go i stay no more than three days, and its always the same cities i have traveled to in the last 10 years, so i have created a list of regular clients and that helps, i dont longer try new cities, because it meas starting from zero, last year out of boredom i tried a couple of new cities and they worked really well for me, for me it is very expensive to fly to a city in and out and booked a three night stay at the hilton or hyatt hotel, but i average about 5 clients a day so its really worth it. I tried once to quiet and a year later came back and im really happy i did, i truly enjoy my job and my clients.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Hang in there, things will get better and there will always be clients for your services. Everywhere i go i stay no more than three days, and its always the same cities i have traveled to in the last 10 years, so i have created a list of regular clients and that helps, i dont longer try new cities, because it meas starting from zero, last year out of boredom i tried a couple of new cities and they worked really well for me, for me it is very expensive to fly to a city in and out and booked a three night stay at the hilton or hyatt hotel, but i average about 5 clients a day so its really worth it. I tried once to quiet and a year later came back and im really happy i did, i truly enjoy my job and my clients.

 

Thanks. I'm trying to. But it's hard not to. For example, I was planning to go to both Minneapolis and Wisconsin this and next month, but both trips were put on hold for obvious reasons. So there goes my tour potential for most of the month.

 

I know clients be wanting to get that escape, so sometimes us working in the thick of things can be a good thing. But I also know lots of people will only use us for an escape, and not actually meet. And this week I've been dealing with more of the same.

 

Part of me just wants to quit until next year. This year, everytime I start to build momentum, some new bullshit comes around that sets me right back.

[RandyVue]

clarify that last sentence: so joe and Kamala aren’t going to do anything pro sex workers, is that what you’re insinuating? (Not agreeing or disagreeing, just making sure I’m not the only one skeptical lol)

 

that said, re: traveling providers. Let’s not make assumptions. You say escorts who can “afford” to travel. Versus locals who charge less. But sometimes it’s not about an escort who can afford to travel, it may be their current market is so depressed and dead, they are forced to travel to make ends. Or on a lesser extent, make up for lost time.

Have you seen Kamala’s record on sex work??? Hate to break this to you but unfortunately she is not on the side of sex workers. Not by a long shot.

Edited August 28, 2020 by RandyVue

[down_to_business]

How could a global pandemic, travel difficulties, insane pricing, and a recession/boom in unemployment not lead to a slowdown?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

How could a global pandemic, travel difficulties, insane pricing, and a recession/boom in unemployment not lead to a slowdown?

 

Exactly, that’s why I say let’s not assume like everything is just fine.

 

Even though I said things were actually a little better, it still gets setback when once again, there’s World War 3 going on in cities across the country.

 

And that’s not taking away or minimizing from the issues at hand, it’s just nothing happening at the moment that has been conducive to sex work. But perhaps maybe it IS being conducive indirectly, by sending the message that policing is outdated and perhaps that could open the doors to decriminalizing sex work in some ways.

 

Have you seen Kamala’s record on sex work??? Hate to break this to you but unfortunately she is not on the side of sex workers. Not by a long shot.

 

 

I did. But I also know the current fuck bastards aren’t doing a goddamn, mother f-? ing thing either to be on sex worker sides. But I also seen this which could give some hope:

 

[marylander1940]

Have you seen Kamala’s record on sex work??? Hate to break this to you but she is not on the side of sex workers. Not by a long shot.

 

Unlike Trump who acknowledged hiring!

[NikoLeto]

Some days I feel like things are busier, at other times I feel like I just want to quit and leave the biz. Everytime I look around there's something else going on, and I'm really not making that much money anyway. Trying to get into a new incall spot and seeing most of the places I want are $800+ a month, and then everytime cases go up or protests break out, it's another quiet few days or week.

 

I'm just getting fucking fed up with this shit.

 

Just two days ago I was headed to a client's place who lives downtown. Had to turn around because protests were happening fairly close to his place and he didn't want to expose either of us or my car to the potential to come to harm.

 

As an update since 8/20, things have ground to a halt suddenly, particularly in response to new protests in the area. I remember 8/21 I had a client, and since then it's been dead quiet. Have another client tonight. Thankfully this month's bills have been paid.

 

My two provider friends that I speak with regularly said that they likewise had 0 clients this week. Hope this isn't a trend, but a blip.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Just two days ago I was headed to a client's place who lives downtown. Had to turn around because protests were happening fairly close to his place and he didn't want to expose either of us or my car to the potential to come to harm.

 

As an update since 8/20, things have ground to a halt suddenly, particularly in response to new protests in the area. I remember 8/21 I had a client, and since then it's been dead quiet. Have another client tonight. Thankfully this month's bills have been paid.

 

My two provider friends that I speak with regularly said that they likewise had 0 clients this week. Hope this isn't a trend, but a blip.

 

Count your blessings.

 

I had 2 clients my age and younger clients earlier this week, and 1 mid week. But it’s still overall feel of dead. Nothing planned in advance, no hotel Outcalls, nothing really making me feel inspired that I can make the move into my own incall place just yet. The leasing lady called me today asking if I’m ready to sign, I said...I wanted to say; I need pray ?? on it.

 

Client today canceled, but I figured he was full of anyway, trying to get around my deposit policy. And it reminds me again why I don’t let them slide because the convenient, “I woke up with a sore throat and need to cancel” jive.

 

That said, yes this is a blip... but it’s a recurring blip. And it’s costing us dearly. Every time this happens, it takes 2 weeks minimum to return to normalcy. Travels and escort tours are going to be not at full potential. That’s 2 weeks of canceled, almost, and speculative bookings down the drain. And let’s not even think about how some Black escorts may be adversely affected. Even the occasional text, “black cocks ? matter to me”, doesn’t help the cause lol.

 

As much as I don’t condone injustice of any kind, and I even had to correct a client the other day: Stop ? ✋?. don’t try to justify the shooting, because at the end of the day, we’ve already seen things being escalated far beyond what was necessary on more than 1 occasion, and little to nothing being done. So... if the government is going to be okay bailing out insurance companies for riot damage they may no longer be able to afford, or providing more stimulus checks for those who have their business’s destroyed, then goddamit, fucking do something to better it.

 

However; I think we also need to pause a bit and ask ourselves is it really worth reacting to every event. I’m not talking about fake news. Like an old photographer once told me, “I stopped watching news because it’s become nothing more than a police blog”. And that’s the thing, media is always going to push the most sensational stories, because it gains attention. And it’s always going to be about who shot who, who was murdered where, what fatal accident happened there... it’s all police business that the average American brain, doesn’t need to digest. It’s just negativity and noise. But that negativity and noise is affecting our business, even as sex workers.

 

Minor incidents or even everyday friendly encounters aren’t going to make it to headlines.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

My two provider friends that I speak with regularly said that they likewise had 0 clients this week. Hope this isn't a trend, but a blip.

 

Any updates? I noticed some people came out to play since Labor Day, but in my area it’s still been pretty slowed up. Only had 2 clients last week, but nothing this weekend.

 

I’m seriously thinking about retiring for a bit. If I end up coming into this windfall, I’m leaving. The biz has become so far removed from making real money, it’s just becoming not even worth it right now. I’m just about ready to quit. This whole last week, I’ve just been pretty much in a state of trying to figure a way out.

 

Doesn’t help that I’m in shitty market to begin with, but I can’t seem to get to a point where I can leave.

[marylander1940]

It's been VERY slow according to what I've heard by a couple of providers.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

It's been VERY slow according to what I've heard by a couple of providers.

 

In that case I might as well forget about trying to get into this incall location I been considering moving to. I have to be able to show I’m making 3.5x the monthly rent, and that’s barely even happening. And that’s what clients don’t understand. Lately it seems the majority want us to host, but how are we supposed to be able to maintain accommodations at this rate. That’s why lately the only way I’ve been hosting is by appointment, in hotel, with a deposit. But even that has become tedious.

 

All I need is 2 to 4 outcalls a week on a steady base. That’s not even happening. I’ve had 2 outcalls in the last 2 weeks. And only 1 incall in the past week ?

[orville]

It's been VERY slow according to what I've heard by a couple of providers.

It hasn't been that bad in Canada. I've seen new reviews popping out everywhere, of course, we have the government benefits for those who lost their jobs. I also asked a couple of providers and they said business has been "ok" despite COVID. We are in phase 3 of economy reopening and that apparently helped.

[marylander1940]

It hasn't been that bad in Canada. I've seen new reviews popping out everywhere, of course, we have the government benefits for those who lost their jobs. I also asked a couple of providers and they said business has been "ok" despite COVID. We are in phase 3 of economy reopening and that apparently helped.

 

It's legal, cheaper, Covid-19 under control, more political stability, etc. Canada it's a different world in many ways.

[orville]

It's legal, cheaper, Covid-19 under control, more political stability, etc. Canada it's a different world in many ways.

You are right. However, we are getting a steep increase in the number of positive cases, and we are alarmed, but not at the level of the US.

[marylander1940]

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You are right. However, we are getting a steep increase in the number of positive cases, and we are alarmed, but not at the level of the US.

 

I don't know if here people are more scared about Covid-19, the economy or a civil war if Trump is defeated and his people start shooting.

[cany10011]

It hasn't been that bad in Canada. I've seen new reviews popping out everywhere, of course, we have the government benefits for those who lost their jobs. I also asked a couple of providers and they said business has been "ok" despite COVID. We are in phase 3 of economy reopening and that apparently helped.

Looks like second wave is happening in Ontario I wonder what restrictions will occur or if we have to go back to lockdown....

[orville]

Looks like second wave is happening in Ontario I wonder what restrictions will occur or if we have to go back to lockdown....

Ford said: “It’s not the bars … or the restaurants, it’s social gatherings.”

I hope that with the end of summer, millennials chill de f*ck out and give everyone a break.

 

[NikoLeto]

Any updates? I noticed some people came out to play since Labor Day, but in my area it’s still been pretty slowed up. Only had 2 clients last week, but nothing this weekend.

 

 

I had a trip planned this last weekend and had six people contact me to book across Friday and Saturday - none of which I could take.

 

My prior trend (having lots of days where there's only 1 client) has continued. I have had a single client lined up for yesterday, tonight, tomorrow night, and Thursday night. Nothing for the weekend yet. Maybe this is the new normal? Let's hope not. I can't imagine living in a smaller city and trying to make ends meet.

 

Luck to you.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I had a trip planned this last weekend and had six people contact me to book across Friday and Saturday - none of which I could take.

 

My prior trend (having lots of days where there's only 1 client) has continued. I have had a single client lined up for yesterday, tonight, tomorrow night, and Thursday night. Nothing for the weekend yet. Maybe this is the new normal? Let's hope not. I can't imagine living in a smaller city and trying to make ends meet.

 

Luck to you.

 

That sounds at-least halfway manageable. I haven’t seen a client in Kansas City since Labor Day, except one attempted booking who didn’t want to pay a deposit. (because it involves me driving to the “in” parts of town, getting a hotel, and likely be the only appointment I get that day. which makes no sense to NOT want to have something upfront). And there doesn’t seem to be any other bookings in sight for this week. Most likely it’ll be something last minute, where they want me to host, but don’t want to confirm. Predictable.

 

But I was able to schedule a different client later in the week in a different town about 2 hours away. I almost don’t feel ashamed to say it was a waste of time. It was just 1 hour, and I had to get a hotel, and it was the only client I booked that day. Normally that area would simply be a “Stop and Go” destination, but considering it was a Friday night, I was hoping for the best.

 

If I don’t leave the business, I definitely need to leave this region and never look back. This is the epitome of sex workers living in poverty. And I was never intending to be in those circumstances.

[+ keroscenefire]

My regular came down from Montana. Met him this weekend and he said I was the only client in Denver. However, he was going to head east this time through Omaha, Des Moines and the Twin Cities and he said he got a lot of interest on his ads in there so maybe he'll have some more success on that road trip.

 

He's considering doing camming/OnlyFans though because it's been a challenging summer financially. However, he apparently doesn't really enjoy that as much so he's hoping the rest of the trip will be more successful.