Will you raise your donation amount to make up for the pandemic?

[Smurof]

I got into a disagreement with someone over this yesterday. As one who hires, I feel it is justified and fair for providers to substantially raise rates to compensate for months of lost business, and that those who hire should be just fine to oblige, as they will be so horny at this point they will give whatever is asked.

 

My friend told me it is a damn good thing I don't run a business, because I'm crazy to think anyone should do such a thing, essentially implying things should be business as usual and nothing ever happened.

 

I've been price gouged by a masseur only once, who hated my company so much that he let me know later that day (but I didn't hate his), that he was willing for a re-meet for two and a half times his standard rate when he came to my neck of the woods again $200 instead of $80. I declined.

[down_to_business]

Simple answer. No, I won't. I don't see anything wrong with your decision to do so, if that is what you chose to do.

 

To be fair, I wouldn't pay my housekeeper or pool boy or lawn service (just as examples) more either.

[jjkrkwood]

Keep in mind the clients too have been affected, and have lost income during the pandemic, and would find it hard to pay more for the same service....If you want to provide a bigger tip, that's on YOU......

[MikeBiDude]

No. Couldn’t do it in my business. Price increases depress transaction counts.

[thickornotatall]

We upped our donation to The ASPCA and adopted a rescue Goldendoodle....he was sadly neglected..never let in the house....matted and tangled...After 1 week with us...a bath..haircut..nail trim and some good homemade liver/chicken/vegetables with rice he is the best!...Our other Goldendoodle Jack kisses him..paws him...(he got that from me)....Great for all..

[JulianLondon]

We upped our donation to The ASPCA and adopted a rescue Goldendoodle....he was sadly neglected..never let in the house....matted and tangled...After 1 week with us...a bath..haircut..nail trim and some good homemade liver/chicken/vegetables with rice he is the best!...Our other Goldendoodle Jack kisses him..paws him...(he got that from me)....Great for all..

 

 

What an adorable looking dog ! Do they moult much as a breed?

[marylander1940]

No. Couldn’t do it in my business. Price increases depress transaction counts.

 

Not all business are the same! In some business a higher price creates a sense (real or fake) of getting a more exclusive service and in this case an escort who is more picky and won't just take anybody. Considering most guys are on PrEP, I'm not surprised high profile clients might hire a guy who won't see 10 guys per week because he asks for higher fee.

 

I also know guys who specifically target trips and overnights to avoid the "hourly" clients.

 

 

Answering the OP question I think most escorts will require the same fee but I wouldn't be surprised if some less desirable clients are already in the pandemic trying to get a bargain

 

Keep in mind the clients too have been affected, and have lost income during the pandemic, and would find it hard to pay more for the same service....If you want to provide a bigger tip, that's on YOU......

 

Yes, some clients are small business owners but most clients are white collar and simply moved their job to home while still working with their brains from there.

 

Don't get me wrong most folks have been affected and I'm sure some guys working at supermarkets, retail stores, restaurants, etc. occasionally hire escorts but they can't afford doing it as often as lawyers, doctors, and other white collar professionals who are more likely to hire an escort more often because they have more money.

Edited May 8, 2020 by marylander1940

[thickornotatall]

What an adorable looking dog ! Do they moult much as a breed?

They don't shed....wonderful dogs....a joy to have around..

[+ nycman]

Unfortunately for escorts, I predict the exact opposite.

 

The market will be flooded with out of work waiters, bartenders, actors, models etc.

[down_to_business]

...

 

Answering the OP question I think most escorts will require the same fee but I wouldn't be surprised if some less desirable clients are already in the pandemic trying to get a bargain

 

 

 

Yes, some clients are small business owners but most clients are white collar and simply moved their job to home while still working with their brains from there.

 

Don't get me wrong most folks have been affected and I'm sure some guys working at supermarkets, retail stores, restaurants, etc. occasionally hire escorts but they can't afford doing it as often as lawyers, doctors, and other white collar professionals who are more likely to hire an escort more often because they have more money.

 

I don't know Marylander, I don't think the 300+ model for every single provider was a sustainable model to begin with, let alone now in this highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression!

 

Also, I initially thought that the typical client was more shielded from this nightmare, but seeing all the people on this board talking about their stimulus check issues, has made me change my mind completely. I am far from the top income earners here but I am not even close to qualifying for a stimulus payment.

 

Even if people still have the money to spend, there are so many other issues. Heck, some people I know refuse to even handle cash at all anymore!

 

Unfortunately for escorts, I predict the exact opposite.

 

The market will be flooded with out of work waiters, bartenders, actors, models etc.

 

I agree with this, unfortunately none of the icons seems appropriate to express that as I surely don't "like" that it is true.

[marylander1940]

I don't know Marylander, I don't think the 300+ model for every single provider was a sustainable model to begin with, let alone now in this highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression!

 

Also, I initially thought that the typical client was more shielded from this nightmare, but seeing all the people on this board talking about their stimulus check issues, has made me change my mind completely. I am far from the top income earners here but I am not even close to qualifying for a stimulus payment.

 

I never said the 300 model works for everybody, I just said some would charge more just to be more exclusive.

 

Only time will tell, and there's no such a thing as they typical client, there just percentages and the fact that is no longer a cash only business has changed things a little bit.

 

IEven if people still have the money to spend, there are so many other issues. Heck, some people I know refuse to even handle cash at all anymore!

 

 

 

I agree with this, unfortunately none of the icons seems appropriate to express that as I surely don't "like" that it is true.

 

Agreed, again only time will tell.

[+ DrownedBoy]

Unfortunately for escorts, I predict the exact opposite.

 

The market will be flooded with out of work waiters, bartenders, actors, models etc.

 

Exactly. Combined with older clients too afraid or sick to hire, demand will plummet, while supply increases. The new normal will be to drop rates or drop out of escorting.

 

And if you think white collar employees are exempt, you don't know jack about economics. That's the coming second wave of layoffs. Even my firm instituted a wage freeze, a hiring freeze, and no bonuses for the year.

[+ oldNbusted]

Even my firm instituted a wage freeze, a hiring freeze, and no bonuses for the year.

 

But the question is this because of an expectation of less money coming in the door, or just because they can right now? The technology sector is mostly looking at this as an opportunity to get a bigger slice of the economy pie, so even if the pie is smaller for now, it still yields them more and puts them in a good position moving forward.

 

I suspect this might be the same for the working guys. Specialty providers with niche markets might do well, while the guys who are just 'available' might take a hit. No one answer will apply to everyone.

[thickornotatall]

Unfortunately for escorts, I predict the exact opposite.

 

The market will be flooded with out of work waiters, bartenders, actors, models etc.

Or a combination of actor/model/bartender/waiter..with a really huge.....

[+ oldNbusted]

Or a combination of actor/model/bartender/waiter..with a really huge.....

 

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[Guest Cayden]

No.

[instudiocity]

I’d expect my regular $300 guy to charge me $300. I expect I’ll be dropping $300 extra as a tip so his income lapse will not be as severe. But them he’s already received the equivalent of a couple dates since this CoVid started.

 

But seriously, guys who hire and don’t have an emergency fund to see themselves and their companions through tough times SCARE me.

[handiacefailure]

Nope. I'm not paying my cleaning lady anymore or the guy that cuts my hair anymore and they both had a lapse in income. Uber drivers are losing a ton of money and I don't expect to pay them more. A lot of Doctors and dentists have experience severe decline in business or have closed their practices for over a month and I'm sure as hell not expecting them to raise their rates.

 

Restaurants are really suffering due to this and a lot are offering great specials and free delivery now.

 

Like restaurants, I'm sure a lot of people are going to be hesitant to see an escort for a while. And a lot of their clients will have experienced job losses or loss in income. If they want to raise their rates fine, but I think it's a foolish move.

[RomanticRick]

No.

Sorry for the off-topic post - hot avatar picture Would you share a link to your RM (or any other equivalent) profile, please?

[handiacefailure]

I’d expect my regular $300 guy to charge me $300. I expect I’ll be dropping $300 extra as a tip so his income lapse will not be as severe. But them he’s already received the equivalent of a couple dates since this CoVid started.

 

But seriously, guys who hire and don’t have an emergency fund to see themselves and their companions through tough times SCARE me.

 

Agree, if you have the money to hire, you should have an emergency fund. However, if someone loses their job that emergency fund will be going to pay necessary expenses and they probably won't spend the money to hire an escort. I have been fortunate enough to not suffer a loss in income and have a decent amount saved but if I lost my job I sure wouldn't be hiring.

 

Same with escorts. Full time escorts with no savings also scare me A lot of times it's all under the table money with no overhead.

[MikeBiDude]

A lot of times it's all under the table money with no overhead.

And with the under the table and poor planning....Those can’t get unemployment or stimulus checks.

[instudiocity]

Agree, if you have the money to hire, you should have an emergency fund. However, if someone loses their job that emergency fund will be going to pay necessary expenses and they probably won't spend the money to hire an escort. I have been fortunate enough to not suffer a loss in income and have a decent amount saved but if I lost my job I sure wouldn't be hiring.

 

Same with escorts. Full time escorts with no savings also scare me A lot of times it's all under the table money with no overhead.

That’s a given but some of these tightwads need to crack open their wallets and let ol’ GW blink from seeing the light.

[instudiocity]

Nope. I'm not paying my cleaning lady anymore or the guy that cuts my hair anymore and they both had a lapse in income. Uber drivers are losing a ton of money and I don't expect to pay them more. A lot of Doctors and dentists have experience severe decline in business or have closed their practices for over a month and I'm sure as hell not expecting them to raise their rates.

 

Restaurants are really suffering due to this and a lot are offering great specials and free delivery now.

 

Like restaurants, I'm sure a lot of people are going to be hesitant to see an escort for a while. And a lot of their clients will have experienced job losses or loss in income. If they want to raise their rates fine, but I think it's a foolish move.

Funny, my cleaning lady hasn’t been in my home in 2+ months, but she hasn't missed a paycheck. My barber hasn’t worked in over 2 months and has an infant — he’s getting a couple of Benjamins when I see him. My Uber drivers bringing my to go orders are getting at lesst a $20 tip. My dentist has already been paid for my next 3 visits (he offers a discount for annual prepays).

 

Oh yeah, I’m “essential” & haven’t missed a paycheck, have a 6 month emergency fund and I’ve been buying while the stock market has been down.

 

Tightwads, rich and poor, are never happy. Givers are rarely sad. Givers are rarely poor, too, even if they have no extra money. Go figure.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Full time escorts with no savings also scare me A lot of times it's all under the table money with no overhead.

 

In most cases, I'd agree. Escorts can get away with a lot, especially if they're under (or not) reporting to the IRS.

 

It's a little stickier when an escort makes good/great/ridiculous money and wants to buy things like homes, cars, stocks, etc.

 

Well, then there's a paper trail. Shit.

 

Then you have little choice but to fess up and pay your fair share. The IRS aren't folks you want to cross.

 

Still... Saving for those rainy days is never, ever a bad thing.

[+ peterhung85]

I definitely will NOT raise my rates. I consider them "high enough". As some of you have already stated, clients were also badly affected in many cases so it would not be fair to them either.

 

At the end of the day, the wealthier clients of mine know how this situation affected my situation and I am sure that the ones who can afford to give more, will give more (this has always been the case even before the pandemic). The ones who can't afford to give more; I will be grateful to see them for my old rates they have grandfathered.... and the ones who have hit rock bottom and can't afford to hire at all: I wish them all the best and hope things will turn around for them in the very near future and look forward to re-unite in the not so distant future!