Anyone you're not going to hire post-Covid because of their actions during Covid?

[orville]

It’s interesting that so far there hasn’t been a crack down on businesses that don’t respect social distancing like escorting while legal massage parlors are still closed in most states.

You think that people in power like cops and politicians will stop seeing their loved escorts? Hell no! But it's also in many cases an unregulated "industry".

[marylander1940]

It's funny how it resembles the scenario of a working boy seeing clients on the first days of HIV. Please don't (allow people to) judge.

 

In the early 80's it wasn't clear how HIV was transmitted, there were also many conspiracy theories even though internet wasn't in our homes.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LKJ5ZzzL0w

 

Later on it become clear HIV was transmitted because of anal/vaginal sex without using a condom and easily preventable using a condom. It wasn't the lifestyle like the video says, it was the choice of wearing a condom or not and most of us adopted ourselves while others took chances.

[marylander1940]

You think that people in power like cops and politicians will stop seeing their loved escorts? Hell no! But it's also in many cases an unregulated "industry".

 

I don't know what they're doing...

 

Does it make any difference to you if folks with money ( or power like cops) follow social distancing or not?

 

Yes escorting is an unregulated industry... So?

[orville]

In the early 80's it wasn't clear how HIV was transmitted, there were also many conspiracy theories even though internet wasn't in our homes.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LKJ5ZzzL0w

 

Later on it become clear HIV was transmitted because of anal/vaginal sex without using a condom and easily preventable using a condom. It wasn't the lifestyle like the video says, it was the choice of wearing a condom or not and most of us adopted ourselves while others took chances.

Oh come on @marylander1940 you are better than this. Do I need to remind you that to this day there are still people who, despite facts and science, discriminate against others just by the fact they are HIV positive so they don't even want to get close to them? It's not ok to allow / promote discrimination, publicly targeting specific people in this forum. I think it also applies to Covid as we don't know the situations some escorts are going through.

Edited May 2, 2020 by orville

[orville]

I don't know what they're doing...

 

Does it make any difference to you if folks with money ( or power like cops) follow social distancing or not?

 

Yes escorting is an unregulated industry... So?

Many industries won't be the same after Covid. I thought it was clear my point that: folks with money / power wouldn't allow any chance of the escorting industry to disappear. Not talking about what they are individually doing right now as clients, but the legislation they manage that could negatively impact their source of entertainment.

Edited May 2, 2020 by orville

[marylander1940]

Oh come on @marylander1940 you are better than this. Do I need to remind you that to this day there are still people who, despite facts and science, discriminate against others just by the fact they are HIV positive so they don't even want to get close to them? It's not ok to allow / promote discrimination, publicly targeting specific people in this forum. I think it also applies to Covid as we don't know the situations some escorts are going through.

 

Many industries won't be the same after Covid. I thought it was clear my point that: folks with money / power wouldn't allow any chance of the escorting industry to disappear. Not talking about what they are doing right now as clients, but the legislation they manage that could negatively impact their source of entertainment.

 

You keep jumping from one thing to another....

 

I think it's time to move on

[orville]

You keep jumping from one thing to another....

 

I think it's time to move on

[sutherland]

I’m not a huge fan of judging other people.

 

Don't we judge people all the time? When we decide to befriend Person A (who is really pleasant) and not befriend Person B (who is a registered sex offender) we are judging. When voting for Candidate A and not Candidate B in an election we are judging. Our legal system is based on judging people - "Your actions are so unacceptable that we judge you to not be allowed to live freely and you must be imprisoned".

[+ José Soplanucas]

Don't we judge people all the time? When we decide to befriend Person A (who is really pleasant) and not befriend Person B (who is a registered sex offender) we are judging. When voting for Candidate A and not Candidate B in an election we are judging. Our legal system is based on judging people - "Your actions are so unacceptable that we judge you to not be allowed to live freely and you must be imprisoned".

 

Are you serious? Are you making an analogy between those kinds of decisions and the labeling and stigmatizing the OP is advocating for?

It sounds like you are just looking for excuses to justify your own love for discriminating against others.

[sutherland]

Are you serious? Are you making an analogy between those kinds of decisions and the labeling and stigmatizing the OP is advocating for?

It sounds like you are just looking for excuses to justify your own love for discriminating against others.

 

latbear4blk : find a good thesaurus, look up the verbs "to judge" and "to discriminate" and you will see why you are erring. If you still believe that you are not erring please explain how choosing one candidate over another on election day falls into the category of discrimination; please explain how a jury coming to a guilty verdict is discrimination; please explain how choosing friends is discrimination. Those are the scenarios I mentioned in my former email.

[+ José Soplanucas]

latbear4blk : find a good thesaurus, look up the verbs "to judge" and "to discriminate" and you will see why you are erring. If you still believe that you are not erring please explain how choosing one candidate over another on election day falls into the category of discrimination; please explain how a jury coming to a guilty verdict is discrimination; please explain how choosing friends is discrimination. Those are the scenarios I mentioned in my former email.

 

You are exactly making my point. You are the one making an analogy between judicial decisions and the stigmatization advocated by the OP. You did it when you responded to @Keith30309 here:

 

Don't we judge people all the time?

 

Thank you for the Thesaurus suggestion, though. You are still at Bitch 101 level.

[marylander1940]

You are exactly making my point. You are the one making an analogy between judicial decisions and the stigmatization advocated by the OP. You did it when you responded to @Keith30309 here:

 

 

 

Thank you for the Thesaurus suggestion, though. You are still at Bitch 101 level.

 

Calling @sutherland a "bitch" because he's judgmental sounds judgmental to me...

 

Back to subject, after the vaccine comes next year we will all forget who did what now and hire whoever we want.

[+ Snbrd]

If someone has proof of being vaccinated, once it's available, we're safe. If they took chances and still escaped it they were lucky. I'd rather attribute their behavior to youthful indiscretion than go in the punishment business.

[orville]

Calling @sutherland a "bitch" because he's judgmental sounds judgmental to me...

 

Back to subject, after the vaccine comes next year we will all forget who did what now and hire whoever we want.

While I wouldn't call anyone a "bitch" out of disagreement I completely understand why @latbear4blk ran out of patience dealing with these annoying profiles who pretend to disguise bigotry with academia and erudition. Complete bullshit.

[+ José Soplanucas]

While I wouldn't call anyone a "bitch" out of disagreement I completely understand why @latbear4blk ran out of patience dealing with these annoying profiles who pretend to disguise bigotry with academia and erudition. Complete bullshit.

 

I did not call anyone a bitch. You need talent to be a bitch. I said he is still in Bitch 101 meaning he is taking his first not very promising steps in Bitch School.

 

[orville]

I did not call anyone a bitch. You need talent to be a bitch. I said he is still in Bitch 101 meaning he is taking his first not very promising steps in Bitch School.

 

Lol I read your post again and changed my reaction to ? ?

[Smurof]

This is an outstanding question. For me, I want to be FIRST with a guy I know is waiting until the Governor allows spas to re-open, and be the test dummy.

 

From what I've read, those currently seeing clients are doing next to no business, understandably.

[OrdinaryJoe]

Yet that doesn't justifying and attempt to publicly shame these escorts. Even if what they are doing is wrong and we could speculate the worst motives (greed, irresponsibility, etc) we don't really know if they had to do it for a very critical reason and they didn't have another option. I'm not defending them, I'm trying to be human and impartial. If they did wrong, people have already judged them. Anyone can keep a personal record of who they not hire but don't make a public bonfire to burn them.

 

Who have I publicly shamed? And please share how one gets publicly shamed without being named?

[OrdinaryJoe]

You all are too nice. People with the OP's mindset should be ostracize from human kind. @Guy Fawkes should create a new forum for shameful threads and move this one over there.

 

Wow, dude. Harsh. I view the management of Corona/Covid as a shared responsibility. We're all in this together. I absolutely look to other people to their part, just as I hold myself to a high standard to do mine. I wear a facemask when I go out, not for what it does for me which is very little, but because it potentially (if I had Covid and didn't know it) helps others. My own personal view is that anyone who actively works against the spread of Corona, whether they have a dick I want to suck or not, doesn't get my time and certainly doesn't get my dollars. You want to call that stigmatization, go ahead. But the irony of saying that I should be "ostracized from humankind" is, in my opinion, a really horrible comment.

[+ José Soplanucas]

. But the irony of saying that I should be "ostracized from humankind" is, in my opinion, a really horrible comment.

 

Dios mio, I will not sleep tonight.

 

Your wording is not conveying the same message as OP's post does. I am wondering whether you are less sincere about your hateful stigmatization of sex workers, or just not very smart and missing the point.

[orville]

Who have I publicly shamed? And please share how one gets publicly shamed without being named?

saying that I should be "ostracized from humankind" is, in my opinion, a really horrible comment.

I am wondering whether you are less sincere about your hateful stigmatization of sex workers, or just not very smart and missing the point.

All of a sudden OP is a martyr, a pure innocent soul. His original post never intended to harm anyone and everyone else's are horrible comments. ?

[stop]

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[muscmtl]

Anyone who pontificated "nooooo" during covid and felt empowered by this tiny new power to tell others what they shouldnt do. Hats off to all escorts who said "fuk it"

[AJ Doyle]

Curious if any folks have changed their view of any escorts because of their actions during this crisis? I have a couple of guys locally that I had planned to get with. Neither of them stopped seeing clients. When I inquired, I was told they have "stopped kissing." I have lost total respect for them and could never hire them in the future, not out of Covid fear, but because of a lack of respect. Curious if anyone is in the same boat?

They prob "stopped kissing" as to not risk catching Rona and giving to you.... So it sounds like they are trying to still work but protect you... Me personally I quit working back in Feb. cause I didn't wanna deal with guys being pissed when I asked them if they had traveled recently and where!?

[cany10011]

I can‘t judge others. Some of the guys i used to see are not working for health reasons, others are students who have family support, while others have no option but to work.

 

The one who does work told me he hasn’t had a client in more than a month... i‘ve helped him out a few times already. It’s not like his rent isn‘t due or he doesn’t have expenses, nor is he eligible for stimulus as he is a foreign student. What do they do? So, i am not judging anyone. I don’t know if i will hire that much as before after this is done. I don’t have the same feelings for transactional sex any more. I’m sure many of use will have another discussion as this crisis hopefully ebbs soon.