Q for providers re fee etiquette

[tenderloin]

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

[marylander1940]

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

 

No response

[MrMattBig]

#3 works

"Looking for something a little lower, sorry."

 

I would stay away from the other examples you mentioned...escorts hate no responses, and the others can possibly be interpreted as abrupt and condescending.

[Guy Fawkes]

I'm sorry that's out of my reach.

 

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

[Kevin Slater]

Thanks.

 

Kevin Slater

[MRJJ]

I would thank them for providing the quote, and leave it at that. if they follow up after that, and some will, let them know that the price is beyond what you can afford. I try to respect the pricing that the provider sets, and out of respect for them don't haggle over the pricing. Just my 2 cents.

[Mikegaite]

The don’t haggle mentality is a forum poster mentality, not a general hirer mentality. One of the people I see most often “haggles” every time in the sense that we negotiate my rate. I could care less.

 

4, enumerate the list of providers providing xxx and xyy assuming the providers are amenable to that info being disclosed. If you don’t give numbers right off the bat, it’s too much effort for providers to invest time negotiating downwards. Give your best and final from the getgo. Concomitantly provide creative non-monetary compensation to offset the difference between your budget rate and the provider’s standard rate.

[marylander1940]

Present when ordering and you'll get more bread, rice or potatoes, a cheaper and unhealthier meal.

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

 

 

No, thanks works well.

 

I think that's simple, direct and doesn't open the door for games.

 

If an escort wants to chum the water, he can from that point forward.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[marylander1940]

Im sure we can cum to a compromise :D

 

Are you opening the door to bargaining? Btw your ad expired a few weeks ago. Would you do an incall in exchange for someone paying ad for 2 months?

[Leyte2019]

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

 

Honestly, it should be the one that feels right for you. As long as you're not snide or "take it or leave it", you shouldn't have to be self conscious about a response. Btw the guy you referenced in the other thread is a schmuck. He will have his comeuppance.

[+ DALE CRUZE]

Honestly, it should be the one that feels right for you. As long as you're not snide or "take it or leave it", you shouldn't have to be self conscious about a response. Btw the guy you referenced in the other thread is a schmuck. He will have his comeuppance.

i like number 3 becuz i will tell u why... first off its cool to keep communication open with the client. u never know what can develop and just becuz the client cant afford your rate today doesnt mean that they wont be in a better financial postion at a later date. also you can make a deal with the client to help you with reviews if they like ur services. thats a huge deal...its hard to get clients to take the time to post reviews. a client can help u in other ways also . i have some that have access to hotel points and i work deals with them when i come to town. so just becuz a client cant match ur rate in that moment doesnt mean u have to be a butthole about it. work thru it. be flexible

[Pulgasari1991]

I'll try it again a different way....

 

Given that RM does not permit the posting of fees, when a potential client asks you for your fees and those fees are higher than what the client is prepared to pay, what do you think is the appropriate response from the client?

 

1. No response. Radio silence. Move on.

2. "No thanks" No further explanation

3. "My budget is $XXX. Any chance you are willing to meet it?"

4. "My budget is $XXX, and I get lots of guys for that price. I would be prepared to go to $XYY if...."

5. Something else...?

Number 2 or number 5

[mattr]

I haggle over almost everything except this. I usually have a number in mind that I won't go above. My respose to someone who exceeds that number is "Thanks, but that's a bit more than I feel comfortable spending at this time."

 

The best providers usually respond with a "Thanks, I understand" Ocassionally, a provider offers to lower his rate but this is rare and I certainly have no expectations that will occur. Once I see that he is outside my limits, I move on.

[Aaron_Bauder]

Fear of haggling is another of example of these forums being a self-selected minority sample that differs from the majority of clients/escorts who don't post here.

 

Most of my clients don't have a problem with it. I feel it's best, if you have a budget, to be upfront. But I think it's best to give as much info as reasonable in the first 1-2 texts: "Married, discreet, 60s here. Looking for bf experience, you top. Available tonight 9pm, my hotel in Tribeca? Can do 280 roses for hr of your time. Privacy/discretion important. Thanks."

 

The who/what/when/where/how is thus out of the way, and now you can do the personality and compatibility dance for a bit before confirming. Don't understand why w can't just save everybody's time and energy by being direct, clear, concise, and complete.

 

Radio silence is perhaps the worst form of this poor communication, both rude and unclear at the same time. I block clients who do it, and have had some circle back months to years saying, "Been texting and calling, can't get through." When I tell them they were blocked because of having ghosted, then it's "Oh, didn't mean to, something came up." Okay, well just send a text saying "No longer interested, maybe another time" or "No longer available, will check you next trip." How hard is that?

[DMICS]

I'll ask for their rate, if its outside of my budget then I usually just respond "Thanks" and move on.

[MrMattBig]

For those who respond with just "Thanks"

 

As an escort, it's impossible to distinguish between just that one word meaning "thanks, not going to work" or "thanks...and subsequently expecting a follow up with availability, or even expecting and appointment if availability was already discussed.

 

Due diligence and consideration would be better appreciated in more clearly communicating that rates are outside what you are looking for. Especially if you attempt to contact them again in the future, you are likely to be given more consideration back then just ending the previous conversation with "thanks".

[DMICS]

For those who respond with just "Thanks"

 

As an escort, it's impossible to distinguish between just that one word meaning "thanks, not going to work" or "thanks...and subsequently expecting a follow up with availability, or even expecting and appointment if availability was already discussed.

 

Due diligence and consideration would be better appreciated in more clearly communicating that rates are outside what you are looking for. Especially if you attempt to contact them again in the future, you are likely to be given more consideration back then just ending the previous conversation with "thanks".

 

I'll keep that in mind. I just feel bad saying "not going to work" or "that's outside my budget"

[MrMattBig]

I'll keep that in mind. I just feel bad saying "not going to work" or "that's outside my budget"

Don't feel bad, the truth is always best.

Speaking from personal experience, the only things that rub me the wrong way in regards to rates is when prospective clients expects an unlimited amount of time for an hourly rate(for me 240), or suck at negotiating and offer 60 or 100, which is up to a 75% discount for me. As someone who hires girls and trans gurls a couple time a year, there are plenty of providers rates that fall outside what I would be planning to spend at any given moment. But there are still plenty I would be willing to save up and budget for if the opportunity presented itself. And I rather say "perhaps another time when I have a wider budget" than potentially burn that bridge completely by how a non descript "thanks" will be interpreted and received.

[BaronArtz]

I say:

 

"I like you but that is above my spending cap. Have a nice day."

[Gadfly22]

For those who respond with just "Thanks"

 

As an escort, it's impossible to distinguish between just that one word meaning "thanks, not going to work" or "thanks...and subsequently expecting a follow up with availability, or even expecting and appointment if availability was already discussed.

 

Due diligence and consideration would be better appreciated in more clearly communicating that rates are outside what you are looking for.

You're looking at this from the perspective of a reasonable, smart, sweet seeming guy. That puts you in the minority among providers on RM. When I get quoted an astronomical rate from some RM newbie with no reviews on any respectable source I just reply with a curt no thanks. If they can't figure out why they aren't long for the business anyway. P.S. and you'd be surprised how many catty, nasty, and outright hostile responses I get just doing that.

[loremipsum]

I personally prefer no response. Replying with a subtle way of haggling via the expedient of “this escort is only...” is awkward for me. Even “thanks” is awk. I have to say “you’re welcome,” even knowing that in all likelihood they’re going to move on.

[DMICS]

P.S. and you'd be surprised how many catty, nasty, and outright hostile responses I get just doing that.

 

While not for the same thing, I pretty much got catty, hostile responses from MrFeb when I asked if it was cool his fee was paid when the session was done. Turned into a back and forth where he was rude and I kept it calm and respectful.

[Rudynate]

I say, "Sorry, not in my budget."

[+ Eric Hassan]

For those who respond with just "Thanks"

 

As an escort, it's impossible to distinguish between just that one word meaning "thanks, not going to work" or "thanks...and subsequently expecting a follow up with availability, or even expecting and appointment if availability was already discussed.

 

Due diligence and consideration would be better appreciated in more clearly communicating that rates are outside what you are looking for. Especially if you attempt to contact them again in the future, you are likely to be given more consideration back then just ending the previous conversation with "thanks".

 

YES!

 

"Thanks" is polite but for me, it's unclear if you just were information gathering and you'll be back minutes/days/weeks later to schedule some time together, or if it's not in your budget, or what. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't want to add pressure and I hope that if someone wants something, they would say so. I can also understand that there is a "no haggling" sort of thing going around, and I don't love when someome comes right out of the gate trying to haggle, but if someone were to say to me that it's a bit out of their budget, I would at least have a conversation about what we could make work.

 

I also like @Mikegaite suggestion of thinking about what you might want to offer or provide to "make up" the difference in what you can find financially and what the provider asks. For example, I have a regular client here in NYC that I give a discount on my rate to because he is not only a regular patron, but he also regularly gives me an extra bottle of poppers or a couple of jockstraps, and frequenly has me over for dinner or takes me out for lunch. We've negotiatied through it all and it works for both of us. Also, don't underestimate what you have to offer a provider - sometimes, I've had someone hug me when I really needed it, or listen to me bitch about something for 5 minutes and it's made the whole day better.