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If you begin to have more negative feelings about the business than positive ones, then it's time to put your energy into something else that does make you happier than this business does.

 

Makes sense enough. At the same time, it’s def. not an overnight decision. It’s more of a transition.

 

Of course I have good weeks and bad weeks too. I don’t want to give off the wrong impression that I’m not out here doing anything for myself. From the start of putting this post to now, I’m already in a better frame of mind. I think I wrote this thread in North Carolina (a state I will be very careful about planning visits again unless it’s a specific client).

 

Since then, I’ve left and gone to 2 other states, reconnected with 2 previous clients, gained a couple new ones, and have a couple more on the way.

 

I think it’s just really relative in the scheme of things. I can be in 1 city and be miserable because there’s either not enough business, and/or there’s a lot of time wasters (Kansas City for example), but then have a completely different outlook on life just by being in another city where I can actually keep clients coming back to back (Washington DC, Northern Virginia for example).

 

Over my birthday earlier this month, I spent 4 days in a high rise hotel overlooking Georgetown, DC. I could never afford that in some cities I’ve been to and even lived at times. So it’s really all relative. Last week I was hating the business, this week I am happy to still be in it. Though I have to see how Labor Day weekend goes because 3 days holidays tend to bring out people who have too much damn time on their hands.

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@Mocha The problem isn't you. The problem is that most of these "potential clients" are just pathetic voyeuristic inconsiderate assholes. I had an escort who I had seen for over 4 years and at least 100 meets (I'm serious) and he mouthed off to me twice over politics that the fool kept bringing up and then it was over. He regrets its now but I'm done. He always complained about the same problems you are having. I don't know what to tell you, but I wouldn't allow the texts and emails to go on and on. Tell them the deal upfront. Most of these people are just getting their jollies with all this back and forth communication. I can imagine how freaking annoying it is.

 

I truly believe people need to get a life! The Deli threads are the most numerous on this website. Why? Not because most of the posters will even meet the guys they are talking about. They are just getting their jollies with this. If a person has decent reviews, then there shouldn't be so much drama with hiring someone for an hour. If you're worried about $250-$300 then you can't afford it in the first place.

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Move to DC for 1 year and see how it goes. Seems it has proven to be profitable for you and many others over the years.

 

Easier said than done. The catch is, I can’t afford to move there. I can only go to visit. And anything close to affordable would likely be either a basement unit or somewhere way, way outside of DC. Like Manassas or out in Maryland (which despite my getting familiar with/meeting new people and trying local food joints, and it being the more affordable part of the DMV I’m not particular eager to move to Maryland).

 

 

Even if I’m getting steady clients, I don’t want to have to be hustling to pay $2,000 a month, because DC is known to be slow at times, and some of them folks out there just ain’t right. I had a dude I’ve known for a couple years now, stand me up for my birthday (but then met another guy who ended up coming thru), and one of my clients from Florida came up, only to be stood up by his family. Black folks aren’t always the most welcoming bunch towards one another, and DC is known as non other than “Chocolate City”. That’s why I only go to DC like once a year or so. I try not to overstay my welcome.

 

Otherwise, I wouldn’t hesitate to move to DC. It felt like Miami last week, and by this time next month it’ll be cooling off.

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@Mocha The problem isn't you. The problem is that most of these "potential clients" are just pathetic voyeuristic inconsiderate assholes. I had an escort who I had seen for over 4 years and at least 100 meets (I'm serious) and he mouthed off to me twice over politics that the fool kept bringing up and then it was over. He regrets its now but I'm done. He always complained about the same problems you are having. I don't know what to tell you, but I wouldn't allow the texts and emails to go on and on. Tell them the deal upfront. Most of these people are just getting their jollies with all this back and forth communication. I can imagine how freaking annoying it is.

 

I truly believe people need to get a life! The Deli threads are the most numerous on this website. Why? Not because most of the posters will even meet the guys they are talking about. They are just getting their jollies with this. If a person has decent reviews, then there shouldn't be so much drama with hiring someone for an hour. If you're worried about $250-$300 then you can't afford it in the first place.

 

Wow, so you’re saying the escort shared a tale of woe...but he just went off about it too many times?

 

I try not to explicitly share with clients in person about experiences with flakes, unless I need to use it to make a point. And even then it’s very general. Something like, “yes I have to do the deposit because a lot of people say they’re going to show up to the hotel, then they don’t...So I rather hold this time just for YOU.”

 

But like I was saying earlier...some of these assholes may very well be perfectly good people. The problem is they get on Rentmen and lose their common sense and courtesy. It’s like I can scatter business cards all over the Las Vegas Strip, and likely deal with a load of crap. But if I individually hand them out to prospective clients, I’d doubt I would.

 

That’s why I say part of it needs to come thru filtering thru the websites. I still wonder how it would work if Rentmen were to charge each person $1 to text or call a number (because let’s face it, we’re already there because numbers can’t be shown in profiles). Maybe they can buy a “package” of 10 phone number allowances for $10. I can imagine that it would cut down the crap and up the seriousness drastically (Stuff I’ve already mentioned to them previously). But of course as I’ve said before, there’s still guys out there who are credit card shy and won’t pay...but that’s where Rentmen may have to get clever. Maybe sell it via Groupon lol (being Rentmen has rewarded me for my suggestions, I don’t mind sharing some free info with them).

 

 

It’s funny how my number is shown in my a4a ad. I used to think I would be getting prank calls up the ASS by putting my number out in the open on adam. But nope, it’s not coming from there. Most is coming from Rentmen and RentMasseur...which leads me to believe there’s a quality control issue. They gotta stop these mother flakers at the gate. I can only do much screening and filtering, but if a client isn’t taking shit seriously because it’s so accessible to just text a bunch of escorts for free at random, something needs to goddamn change.

 

People shouldn’t have so much access to us, to be contacting us, bullshitting and wasting time only to say, “I didn’t make an appointment”. Then why the fuck you calling me then? You don’t call an escort if you’re not booking an appointment. Then they got the nerve to say “it was just an inquiry”, despite texting me up asking if I bareback, this and that question, where I’m staying...and then they want to deny deny deny, when I put responsibility on their word.

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@Mocha It wasn't the complaints about all the hassles about the clients that drove us apart (from the longtime escort I had). It didn't bother me. It was politics. We are on opposite sides of the political spectrum and I didn't care about his political beliefs but he tried like hell to prove that he was right. I told him lets not talk about politics but he couldn't control himself. A couple of times he got seriously nasty so I ended it. He was shocked. Thought I couldn't live without him I guess, but I did care about him. Life is strange.

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@Mocha It wasn't the complaints about all the hassles about the clients that drove us apart (from the longtime escort I had). It didn't bother me. It was politics. We are on opposite sides of the political spectrum and I didn't care about his political beliefs but he tried like hell to prove that he was right. I told him lets not talk about politics but he couldn't control himself. A couple of times he got seriously nasty so I ended it. He was shocked. Thought I couldn't live without him I guess, but I did care about him. Life is strange.

 

Oh wow...yeah politics are a dead ended conversational. I’m generally fortunate that most of my clients tend to lean on the liberal side of things though.

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He did lean liberal. I'm the conservative...LOL

 

Yeah, see in that case I woulda just kept my mouth shut. I just already know people won’t see eye to eye on certain political topics. At the end of the day, you do you, I do me.

 

By the way, I’m just putting this thread on pause to address another topic.

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Yeah, see in that case I woulda just kept my mouth shut. I just already know people won’t see eye to eye on certain political topics.

 

100% This. If you can't say something nice...

 

Unless you know well enough to keep your emotions in-check, discussing dissenting political beliefs is never a good idea. Most people can't sit back and constructively listen to something that's at odds with what they think without eventually getting bent out of shape.

 

This is why I don't openly discuss the movie Showgirls.

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@Mocha The problem isn't you. The problem is that most of these "potential clients" are just pathetic voyeuristic inconsiderate assholes. I had an escort who I had seen for over 4 years and at least 100 meets (I'm serious) and he mouthed off to me twice over politics that the fool kept bringing up and then it was over. He regrets its now but I'm done. He always complained about the same problems you are having. I don't know what to tell you, but I wouldn't allow the texts and emails to go on and on. Tell them the deal upfront. Most of these people are just getting their jollies with all this back and forth communication. I can imagine how freaking annoying it is.

 

I truly believe people need to get a life! The Deli threads are the most numerous on this website. Why? Not because most of the posters will even meet the guys they are talking about. They are just getting their jollies with this. If a person has decent reviews, then there shouldn't be so much drama with hiring someone for an hour. If you're worried about $250-$300 then you can't afford it in the first place.

 

Who sees the same escort over 100 times? Did he sign a non disclosure agreement too?

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@Mocha It wasn't the complaints about all the hassles about the clients that drove us apart (from the longtime escort I had). It didn't bother me. It was politics. We are on opposite sides of the political spectrum and I didn't care about his political beliefs but he tried like hell to prove that he was right. I told him lets not talk about politics but he couldn't control himself. A couple of times he got seriously nasty so I ended it. He was shocked. Thought I couldn't live without him I guess, but I did care about him. Life is strange.

 

I'm happy to hear you've never gotten back together with him.

 

~Boomer~

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I'm thinking this is sarcasm, but don't know enough about the movie or your tastes to be sure. Am I a philistine for being only vaguely aware of the movie? Should I watch it as my labor day Sunday flick?

 

 

Later home media editions of the film have a commentary track titled "The Greatest Movie Ever Made" the hilarious premise of which is the film was intended as a serious work. Sadly, to be able to appreciate the commentary fully, you do have to watch the movie, er, 'straight', as it were. Then you can watch again with the commentary. I promise you, it is worth it. But only if you are a philistine. ;)

 

There is a more recent school of thought that Showgirls is a satire. The director, Paul Verhoeven, has a history of satirical films that many people took seriously, such as the original Robocop (1987) and the film adaptation of Robert Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers (1997) (which would be fitting since the book also has a history of being massively misunderstood.)

 

Maybe I should start a thread in the Movie subforum...

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Later home media editions of the film have a commentary track titled "The Greatest Movie Ever Made" the hilarious premise of which is the film was intended as a serious work. Sadly, to be able to appreciate the commentary fully, you do have to watch the movie, er, 'straight', as it were. Then you can watch again with the commentary. I promise you, it is worth it. But only if you are a philistine. ;)

 

There is a more recent school of thought that Showgirls is a satire. The director, Paul Verhoeven, has a history of satirical films that many people took seriously, such as the original Robocop (1987) and the film adaptation of Robert Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers (1997) (which would be fitting since the book also has a history of being massively misunderstood.)

 

Maybe I should start a thread in the Movie subforum...

 

Well I think I better read up on it a bit before I delve into a film that (apparently) invites much construction and deconstruction. For now, I'm going to gorge on cheap ice cream and the Amy Winehouse bio.

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