Directed to website for rates...

[Guest]

If someone is serious, they'll want to look at your website. If I didn't have a fiance, and you were in my area or an area where I was visiting, I would definitely look at your website if you directed me to it. You have various prices for various times, so directing someone to your website for the prices seems very reasonable. If they won't look at your website, they're probably not serious to begin with.

[hypothetically]

I think you’ve done a great job with your website and I applaud you for getting creative in regard to marketing yourself. However..

 

...some clients can be incredibly fickle. What basic information you are not able to immediately provide upon request, another provider is. And we’re not talking about how hung you are, or what you get into, but the bare minimum you should always be ready to cough up.. your rate.

 

Logging onto Rentmen to search, contact and wait for a reply is already too many steps for MOST clients. Redirecting them elsewhere can make what should really be a simple exchange into a cumbersome one. I do not think the website is a bad idea but maybe redirect those clients who are keen on a “slow shopping experience” to your page. Your “looking for now” demographic cannot be bothered with navigating elsewhere, at all. Spit out those numbers, lol.

 

As taxing as it can be to answer the same questions like clockwork, answers that are readily available on your ad..at the end of the day you are running a business and you are your own customer service rep. Speaking personally, if I called any business to inquire about pricing and they redirected me to their website, my first thought would be “it would’ve taken you less time to just tell me the price than to spell out your website.” And I assure you, most eager clients’ sentiment will mirror my own.

 

I say use the website...strategically, or risk losing business. The gentlemen in this thread are very nice and would probably read your website front to back. That is not most clients, sadly.

Edited May 7, 2019 by hypothetically

[+ José Soplanucas]

I can respect that, we met once and I remember answering specific questions to your specific interests. But you also described yourself and interests independently as well, which takes some of the burden of explicit talk away, and as I recall it wasnt in a way that confirmed sexual acts between us two. And I don't redirect to my website every time someone contacts me, just when they ask questions that are answered on my website, and when those questions are asked without any availability logistics about meeting mentioned, which usually indicates window shopping. And if I expend unnecessary time addressing window shoppers, I could miss and lose track of a message from someone who is serious about meeting and ready to book an appointment. And that actually recently happened, but luckily the guy i missed a message from was very understanding and flexible and we ended up meeting and having an amazing time.

 

Yes we met, and I had a great time. I always recommend you. I was not complaining nor making any reference to our meeting.

 

I was just answering your question in your OP. I agree, it is good to have as much information as possible out there to avoid long conversations and unnecessary questions.

 

However, despite how much stuff you post out there, there will always be clients that have not learned it, specially if you have it in more than one place. My answer to your OP was referred exclusively to the situation where a client contacts you in RM, asking a question that is answered in another of your outlets. If I were that client and you referred me to your website, I would move on to the next provider.

 

Of course I am not that client, I know you, and can speak of the excellent quality of your service.

Edited May 7, 2019 by latbear4blk

[+ José Soplanucas]

RS has had a link to his website in his RM ad since last year.

 

~Boomer~

 

Matt is correct. RM has a strict policy against links, they censor them even in communications using heir messaging system.

 

As you point, Boomer, some providers include a link in their profile, but the link will stay there until RM administrators notice it. Kevin Ryder included for several months a link to his review I published , until a couple of weeks ago it was detected and deleted. I used to include a link in my profile, that was edited and the link deleted.

Edited May 7, 2019 by latbear4blk

[Dmitri]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted much here lately but I'm slowly trying to be more involved

I have a question, how do you guys feel about being directed to a personal website when asking about rates or other info?

My website is in the headline of my RM ad, so when I have new inquiries asking for rates or other information that is on my website, I I kindly ask them to visit my website, repost a link in the message, and ask them to follow up with their availability. I have had one guy hang up a phone call on me, and another block me via SMS.

When you ask questions, would you rather have them answered directly as opposed to going to a website that might have other useful information?

Is maybe the thought of visiting a website make it feel like spam. Your thoughts gentlemen?

 

 

I think the fact you have a Personal Website shows you are serious about your business and very professional. I think the major reason that you are having potential clients hang upon you and not visit your website when you ask them to visit for rates, info, etc. is because many clients are married, in relationships, etc. and need to be discreet. By visiting your website, it would show up in their search history. Imagine someone's wife coming across your website on their husband's phone/computer. www.mattanthonyxxx.com. Divorce material. Take the 2 minutes and just give them a quick rundown. At the end of the day, it is about the money, so just give them the info on the phone if they ask, and you will get another client, instead of a missed opportunity.

[+ WilliamM]

Did you realize how much drama (potential or real) a simple business suggestion has caused?

 

There has been talk of blocking you because of this... Insane!

 

if there's so much censorship just keep all the more private questions to WhatsApp or ask folks to call you for specifics about what you do... You'll do fine!

 

Thank you.

[+ poolboy48220]

Rates are pretty basic information. I'd be a bit put off if someone pointed me elsewhere to see that, rather than just responding to the question directly. "Other info" - maybe not so much.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

You can put your namesake website in your ad. They (RM) allow this.

 

Just make it clear in your copy that 'for more information' head to your site. It will cut down on time spent answering the same questions over and over and make it easier for a potential client to judge whether he wants to spend time or not.

[MrMattBig]

Thanks for all the feed back guys

[MrMattBig]

Exchange on A4a....me being a sassy scorpio but explaining myself after feeling my character slightly attacked.

Thoughts? This is as much of a question on my part as me providing a window into an escorts life

 

Client: How much?

Me: what is your budget?

 

Client: I thought you were a professional.

 

Me: Well, answer your question, I am experimenting with different approaches to handle different situations. Those who ask rates first, typically are not willing to pay market normal pricing when it comes to escorts. This is especially more when phrased as how much like you proceeded to do. Additionally, my rates are in the website in my headline. Those facts coupled together, further demonstrate a lower spending ability or willingness. So I took the approach, assuming that's correct, of bypassing that initial exchange of you either telling my my rates are too much, ignoring me, you telling me you would think about it/get back to me, and open the floor up for negotiation or what you are willing to contribute.

 

Furthermore, when I act professionally, those contacting me can sometimes feel intimidated or that I'm being callous, so I am taking the approach to respond with the same level of type of correspondence as what is being given to me in certain circumstances.

 

Client: I can afford anything I want. Your long, convoluted response? and instructions to visit a different site to get a very simple answer to a very simple question show a complete lack of professionalism.

Edited May 10, 2019 by MrMattBig

[rvwnsd]

Exchange on A4a....me being a sassy scorpio but explaining myself after feeling my character slightly attacked.

Thoughts? This is as much of a question on my part as me providing a window into an escorts life

 

Client: How much?

Me: what is your budget?

 

Client: I thought you were a professional.

 

Me: Well, answer your question, I am experimenting with different approaches to handle different situations. Those who ask rates first, typically are not willing to pay market normal pricing when it comes to escorts. This is especially more when phrased as how much like you proceeded to do. Additionally, my rates are in the website in my headline. Those facts coupled together, further demonstrate a lower spending ability or willingness. So I took the approach, assuming that's correct, of bypassing that initial exchange of you either telling my my rates are too much, ignoring me, you telling me you would think about it/get back to me, and open the floor up for negotiation or what you are willing to contribute.

 

Furthermore, when I act professionally, those contacting me can sometimes feel intimidated or that I'm being callous, so I am taking the approach to respond with the same level of type of correspondence as what is being given to me in certain circumstances.

 

Client: I can afford anything I want. Your long, convoluted response? and instructions to visit a different site to get a very simple answer to a very simple question show a complete lack of professionalism.

If his first question was "How much," then it appears you were dealing with a sub-species called "assimus-holibus." If that was his last question after a pleasant exchange, well, um...

[MrMattBig]

If his first question was "How much," then it appears you were dealing with a sub-species called "assimus-holibus." If that was his last question after a pleasant exchange, well, um...

 

Very first message.

[+ oldNbusted]

Client: I can afford anything I want.

 

I think we all know this is a lie. Personally, I wouldn't have responded after his second, pointless, message. So you have a lot more patience than I do. I honestly don't know how working guys withstand the deluge of insanity on a daily basis. It really makes me appreciate when I meet someone and they are nice to me.

Edited May 10, 2019 by oldNbusted

[sincitymix]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted much here lately but I'm slowly trying to be more involved

I have a question, how do you guys feel about being directed to a personal website when asking about rates or other info?

My website is in the headline of my RM ad, so when I have new inquiries asking for rates or other information that is on my website, I I kindly ask them to visit my website, repost a link in the message, and ask them to follow up with their availability. I have had one guy hang up a phone call on me, and another block me via SMS.

When you ask questions, would you rather have them answered directly as opposed to going to a website that might have other useful information?

Is maybe the thought of visiting a website make it feel like spam. Your thoughts gentlemen?

i personally would love that idea. no more guessing games, or the escort sounding annoyed.. as if i somehow over looked a non existent price structure on his rm profile

[MiamiLooker]

Very first message.

What would have been an acceptable first question?

[MiamiLooker]

I think we all know this is a lie.

Why do you think that was a lie?

[MrMattBig]

What would have been an acceptable first question?

 

It's not so much as being acceptable as it is about decency and intent. Starting with an introduction is always polite, and logistics is always good, as location and availability would be among the most important deciding factors, especially when claiming anything can be afforded.

 

Why do you think that was a lie?

 

Most I have encountered who really can/could afford any rate within reason (not talking like 1000 plus/hour but like 200-500) that's usually the last piece of information asked so they know what to go to the atm for, not the first.

[+ WilliamM]

It's not so much as being acceptable as it is about decency and intent. Starting with an introduction is always polite, and logistics is always good, as location and availability would be among the most important deciding factors, especially when claiming anything can be afforded.

 

 

 

Most I have encountered who really can/could afford any rate within reason (not talking like 1000 plus/hour but like 200-500) that's usually the last piece of information asked so they know what to go to the atm for, not the first.

 

What about a longer hire - two hours or over night? To be honest, I agree with @marylander1940 see above.

[MrMattBig]

What about a longer hire - two hours or over night? To be honest, I agree with @marylander1940 see above.

 

I agree with @marylander1940 's comments on this thread as well.

But not sure how I would know if that is why (multi-hour or overnight) someone would be asking "How much?", and if what someone could afford would be up in the air based off typical overnight or multihour rates, based off a "How much?" as the only message received with no additional context.

[+ WilliamM]

I agree with @marylander1940 's comments on this thread as well.

But not sure how I would know if that is why (multi-hour or overnight) someone would be asking "How much?", and if what someone could afford would be up in the air based off typical overnight or multihour rates, based off a "How much?" as the only message received with no additional context.

 

My take after reading every post: perhaps many people want the answer from you directly. I understand all the possible problems for you in answering the question on the phone. But you are providing a personal interaction if all goes well.

[MrMattBig]

My take after reading every post: perhaps many people want the answer from you directly. I understand all the possible problems for you in answering the question on the phone. But you are providing a personal interaction if all goes well.

 

I see, was slightly confused on what you meant by your last post lol

That's exactly my point for trying to not discuss rates, especially as the very first message.

 

-"How much?"

-"240/hr"

 

That just seems way too callous to create a great genuine intimate interaction.

[rvwnsd]

Very first message.

Wow. Just wow.

 

I think you dodged a bullet.

[+ honcho]

Me: Well, answer your question, I am experimenting with different approaches to handle different situations. Those who ask rates first, typically are not willing to pay market normal pricing when it comes to escorts. This is especially more when phrased as how much like you proceeded to do. Additionally, my rates are in the website in my headline. Those facts coupled together, further demonstrate a lower spending ability or willingness. So I took the approach, assuming that's correct, of bypassing that initial exchange of you either telling my my rates are too much, ignoring me, you telling me you would think about it/get back to me, and open the floor up for negotiation or what you are willing to contribute.

 

Furthermore, when I act professionally, those contacting me can sometimes feel intimidated or that I'm being callous, so I am taking the approach to respond with the same level of type of correspondence as what is being given to me in certain circumstances.

 

I think this is a terrific reply. It explains where you're coming from, and I think demonstrates a great deal of empathy. The potential client seemed to have gotten locked into an adversarial pattern, and even after you graciously attempted to break that, didn't accept the kindly offered olive branch. I can't imagine a friendlier and warmer response than what you provided.

[+ Pensant]

@MrMattBig comes across as a highly desirable companion as well as smart! Definitely one I need to spend time with this summer.

[mike carey]

I sat across from him at Trios, based on that and this thread I share your assessment @Pensant.