Directed to website for rates...

[MrMattBig]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted much here lately but I'm slowly trying to be more involved

I have a question, how do you guys feel about being directed to a personal website when asking about rates or other info?

My website is in the headline of my RM ad, so when I have new inquiries asking for rates or other information that is on my website, I I kindly ask them to visit my website, repost a link in the message, and ask them to follow up with their availability. I have had one guy hang up a phone call on me, and another block me via SMS.

When you ask questions, would you rather have them answered directly as opposed to going to a website that might have other useful information?

Is maybe the thought of visiting a website make it feel like spam. Your thoughts gentlemen?

[+ oldNbusted]

If I asked someone a question that they had already taken the trouble to set up a website to answer, I would expect to be ignored... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[MrMattBig]

My website view hits are way less then my RM view hits, which shows that a lot of people don't see it or don't bother to copy/paste and visit my personal website. I usually just direct them to it, but because of the recent occurrences of people ignoring or blocking me when I do, I am trying to get a sense on what is the best way to handle this. I don't want to ignore when asked for rates or other questions and have erroneous conclusions drawn about me because I didn't answer their questions.

[+ oldNbusted]

My website view hits are way less then my RM view hits, which shows that a lot of people don't see it or don't bother to copy/paste and visit my personal website. I usually just direct them to it, but because of the recent occurrences of people ignoring or blocking me when I do, I am trying to get a sense on what is the best way to handle this. I don't want to ignore when asked for rates or other questions and have erroneous conclusions drawn about me because I didn't answer their questions.

 

For that, you are the bigger man than I, but I suspect everyone knew that already!

[+ José Soplanucas]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted much here lately but I'm slowly trying to be more involved

I have a question, how do you guys feel about being directed to a personal website when asking about rates or other info?

My website is in the headline of my RM ad, so when I have new inquiries asking for rates or other information that is on my website, I I kindly ask them to visit my website, repost a link in the message, and ask them to follow up with their availability. I have had one guy hang up a phone call on me, and another block me via SMS.

When you ask questions, would you rather have them answered directly as opposed to going to a website that might have other useful information?

Is maybe the thought of visiting a website make it feel like spam. Your thoughts gentlemen?

 

If I contact you and you redirect me to a website, I would probably move to the next provider. Blocking you is an over reaction, but I would prefer someone who responds to my direct questions with direct answers.

[+ azdr0710]

you're one of a very, very few providers that has a separate, personal website.....to be the devil's advocate, many clients may see your polite reference to your website as an attempt to sell a subscription or an attempt to gather personal information......

 

I just looked at your RM ad text.....I saw the headline referring vaguely to your personal website and a single sentence buried in the text.....you may want to emphasize in an obvious first sentence (boldfaced??) of text that rates for time and other FAQs are discussed in your (clickable!!) personal website and to please look it over first to see if questions are answered......

Edited May 7, 2019 by azdr0710

[Guest LeonTrotsky]

Wow, too much negativity here.

 

I think the idea of diverting me to a personal website where YOU can control the quality and quantity of the content is terrific. Makes me think you are serious and committed.... and that I can find a lot more information from you than I usually could on an ad.

 

Just be sure that there is an easy to use response mechanism!

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I think if your are responding to an email or text message, it is fine to direct me to your website if the question is a generic "what are your fees?" However, if the question is asked during a phone conversation, then a direct response would be appropriate.

 

Where I would recommend a direct response would be if you are engaged in an exchange about spending time together and the question is specific, "what is your fee for a two-hour appointment?" A response of $x would be appropriate and then reference your website as well. I would understand that a back and forth of asking for all options would not be appropriate.

[MrMattBig]

you're one of a very, very few providers that has a separate, personal website.....to be the devil's advocate, many clients may see your polite reference to your website as an attempt to sell a subscription or an attempt to gather personal information......

 

I just looked at your RM ad text.....I saw the headline referring vaguely to your personal website and a single sentence buried in the text.....you may want to emphasize in an obvious first sentence (boldfaced??) of text that rates for time and other FAQs are discussed in your (clickable!!) personal website and to please look it over first to see if questions are answered......

 

Good suggestions, I can try to use HTML code to do that. I have tried to type it out that way and copy paste it, RM edits and censors like crazy! I actually had my ad deactivated by them deleting my website from the headline and disabling my ad until I had an approved header. But I can always try again and beat the system!

[MrMattBig]

I think if your are responding to an email or text message, it is fine to direct me to your website if the question is a generic "what are your fees?" However, if the question is asked during a phone conversation, then a direct response would be appropriate.

 

Where I would recommend a direct response would be if you are engaged in an exchange about spending time together and the question is specific, "what is your fee for a two-hour appointment?" A response of $x would be appropriate and then reference your website as well. I would understand that a back and forth of asking for all options would not be appropriate.

 

I could do a double headed approach, I like that! But what I won't do via phone is answer sexual questions directly. Too incriminating and too much beat off material. That was the question with the phone call. The guy asked "How big is your cock?"

[+ azdr0710]

Good suggestions, I can try to use HTML code to do that. I have tried to type it out that way and copy paste it, RM edits and censors like crazy! I actually had my ad deactivated by them deleting my website from the headline and disabling my ad until I had an approved header. But I can always try again and beat the system!

 

yes, I now realize RM may be very picky about references to other websites......

[MrMattBig]

If I contact you and you redirect me to a website, I would probably move to the next provider. Blocking you is an over reaction, but I would prefer someone who responds to my direct questions with direct answers.

 

I can respect that, we met once and I remember answering specific questions to your specific interests. But you also described yourself and interests independently as well, which takes some of the burden of explicit talk away, and as I recall it wasnt in a way that confirmed sexual acts between us two. And I don't redirect to my website every time someone contacts me, just when they ask questions that are answered on my website, and when those questions are asked without any availability logistics about meeting mentioned, which usually indicates window shopping. And if I expend unnecessary time addressing window shoppers, I could miss and lose track of a message from someone who is serious about meeting and ready to book an appointment. And that actually recently happened, but luckily the guy i missed a message from was very understanding and flexible and we ended up meeting and having an amazing time.

[BabyBoomer]

Good suggestions, I can try to use HTML code to do that. I have tried to type it out that way and copy paste it, RM edits and censors like crazy! I actually had my ad deactivated by them deleting my website from the headline and disabling my ad until I had an approved header. But I can always try again and beat the system!

 

Unbelievable! Rentmen should be that vigilant when it comes to fake pictures/ads.

 

~Boomer~

[BabyBoomer]

yes, I now realize RM may be very picky about references to other websites......

 

RS has had a link to his website in his RM ad since last year.

 

~Boomer~

[MrMattBig]

RS has had a link to his website in his RM ad since last year.

 

~Boomer~

I had the same, but once I went to edit it then they censor. I actually even had my rates in my adcopy 2 separate times after rates were not allowed anymore. Sometimes things slip by, but heaven forbid you edit your ad with RM....

That's when they get you.

[marylander1940]

I had the same, but once I went to edit it then they censor. I actually even had my rates in my adcopy 2 separate times after rates were not allowed anymore. Sometimes things slip by, but heaven forbid you edit your ad with RM....

That's when they get you.

 

Did you realize how much drama (potential or real) a simple business suggestion has caused?

 

There has been talk of blocking you because of this... Insane!

 

if there's so much censorship just keep all the more private questions to WhatsApp or ask folks to call you for specifics about what you do... You'll do fine!

[MrMattBig]

Did you realize how much drama (potential or real) a simple business suggestion has caused?

 

There has been talk of blocking you because of this... Insane!

 

if there's so much censorship just keep all the more private questions to WhatsApp or ask folks to call you for specifics about what you do... You'll do fine!

 

What there needs to be is another platform that is both bolder and more cautious when toeing the line of the U.S. legal system!

More conversation leads to more risk of law enforcement issues for providers. And I understand a clients need to ask questions, I really do. That's why I have created a website that can answer questions and serve as a window into what type of experience you can expect from me. RM is just super inconsistent, but its what we have right now as the go to platform.

My question, and annoyance to be blunt, is it really that hard/inconvenient/off putting if a provider says that answer and more can be found on my website?

[marylander1940]

What there needs to be is another platform that is both bolder and more cautious when toeing the line of the U.S. legal system!

More conversation leads to more risk of law enforcement issues for providers. And I understand a clients need to ask questions, I really do. That's why I have created a website that can answer questions and serve as a window into what type of experience you can expect from me. RM is just super inconsistent, but its what we have right now as the go to platform.

 

Great idea!

 

My question, and annoyance to be blunt, is it really that hard/inconvenient/off putting if a provider says that answer and more can be found on my website?

 

Some would react as they did on here... unfortunately. Most potential clients will understand your situation and walk the extra steps to find out more about services in the other site.

[MrMattBig]

Great idea!

 

 

 

Some would react as they did on here... unfortunately. Most potential clients will understand your situation and walk the extra steps to find out more about services in the other site.

 

I think its more a positively skewed mix bag here, and actually some suggestions to use in conjunction with my current handling of the situation that are worth trying at the very least

[+ Keith30309]

I like moving to an independent web site if it has content that allows me to get a better sense of someone’s personality and who they are. I really don’t care about more pictures or other things like that however having the rates is very helpful

[marylander1940]

I think its more a positively skewed mix bag here, and actually some suggestions to use in conjunction with my current handling of the situation that are worth trying at the very least

 

doing the math hell yeah... but some reactions show you how sensitive folks could react, unfortunately.

[rvwnsd]

...My question, and annoyance to be blunt, is it really that hard/inconvenient/off putting if a provider says that answer and more can be found on my website?

There are folks for whom communicating via text is off putting because they only want to communicate via phone, while there are others for whom communicating via phone is off putting because they only want to communicate via text. In other words, you can't please everyone.

 

I typically check out the escort's website before making contact and my preferred method of first contact is by email. There are three reasons for this:

1. My first contact states who I am, what I like, what I'm looking for and when I'm looking for it. That's a lot to type in a text and, frankly, a lot for the escort to read on a small phone screen.
   
2. We are all busy and when I am free the escort might not be. An email allows him to get back to me when he has the time to do so and not have to sit there waiting for me to reply to a text, thus prolonging the exchange.
   
3. I don't know where or with whom the escort is when sending a text. At last count, there have been 17,856 complaints about escorts texting when they are with a client and 12,387 complaints about escorts not getting back to prospective clients within 47.35 seconds of the text's delivery. Why cause complaints 17,857 and 12,388? (Oops, wait - complaint 17,858 - one just came in!)
   

That being said, not everyone is me. There are guys who don't want to view an unfamiliar website, aren't comfortable using the internet, are fearful of web traffic being tracked, and the list goes on. What it comes down to is how egregious it is to you for a client to ask your rate when it is displayed on your website. Frankly, if it is THAT much of a problem for you then you might want to ask yourself whether you are cut out for this business. I work for an internet-based financial services provider whose rates are plastered all over our website and ads. The rate is displayed more prominently than our phone number. Wanna guess what our number one question is? If you guessed "what is your rate?" you are correct.

 

My suggestion is to follow your gut when talking to a guy. If the conversation seems to be heading into phone-sex territory you can politely suggest he check out your website. The guy is not going to hire you, so who cares if he is offended? He is probably not going to tell all his friends, so there is a slim chance that you will lose prospective clients. On the other hand, if a guy calls you and sounds like he is serious about hiring you, it makes little sense to direct him to your website. If your expectation is he will check out your website and call you back you might want to re-think your expectation. It is not going to happen.

 

Hope this helped.

[MrMattBig]

Definitely your response helps put things in perspective

And very VERY few inquires are as detailed and considerate as yours would be, so I extremely appreciate you ))

Its not that egregious, more of a pet peeve than anything and doesn't both me too much.

What bothers me is the unintended outcomes . All the window shopping texts and all the unnecessary conversation can cause a legit message to fall through the cracks. The client I had the other night was one of those, and honestly it was one of the hottest experiences I have personally had as well. And I missed his original message a while back because my phone was inundated with window shopping and unnecessary texts. And he had such a good time and was his first time hiring, and he almost missed out on the experience from his end too because of the unintended consequences related to others actions.

 

There are folks for whom communicating via text is off putting because they only want to communicate via phone, while there are others for whom communicating via phone is off putting because they only want to communicate via text. In other words, you can't please everyone.

 

I typically check out the escort's website before making contact and my preferred method of first contact is by email. There are three reasons for this:

1. My first contact states who I am, what I like, what I'm looking for and when I'm looking for it. That's a lot to type in a text and, frankly, a lot for the escort to read on a small phone screen.
   
2. We are all busy and when I am free the escort might not be. An email allows him to get back to me when he has the time to do so and not have to sit there waiting for me to reply to a text, thus prolonging the exchange.
   
3. I don't know where or with whom the escort is when sending a text. At last count, there have been 17,856 complaints about escorts texting when they are with a client and 12,387 complaints about escorts not getting back to prospective clients within 47.35 seconds of the text's delivery. Why cause complaints 17,857 and 12,388? (Oops, wait - complaint 17,858 - one just came in!)
   

That being said, not everyone is me. There are guys who don't want to view an unfamiliar website, aren't comfortable using the internet, are fearful of web traffic being tracked, and the list goes on. What it comes down to is how egregious it is to you for a client to ask your rate when it is displayed on your website. Frankly, if it is THAT much of a problem for you then you might want to ask yourself whether you are cut out for this business. I work for an internet-based financial services provider whose rates are plastered all over our website and ads. The rate is displayed more prominently than our phone number. Wanna guess what our number one question is? If you guessed "what is your rate?" you are correct.

 

My suggestion is to follow your gut when talking to a guy. If the conversation seems to be heading into phone-sex territory you can politely suggest he check out your website. The guy is not going to hire you, so who cares if he is offended? He is probably not going to tell all his friends, so there is a slim chance that you will lose prospective clients. On the other hand, if a guy calls you and sounds like he is serious about hiring you, it makes little sense to direct him to your website. If your expectation is he will check out your website and call you back you might want to re-think your expectation. It is not going to happen.

 

Hope this helped.

[rvwnsd]

Definitely your response helps put things in perspective

And very VERY few inquires are as detailed and considerate as yours would be, so I extremely appreciate you ))...

 

Awww, shucks. You are making me blush.

 

..Its not that egregious, more of a pet peeve than anything and doesn't both me too much.

What bothers me is the unintended outcomes . All the window shopping texts and all the unnecessary conversation can cause a legit message to fall through the cracks. The client I had the other night was one of those, and honestly it was one of the hottest experiences I have personally had as well. And I missed his original message a while back because my phone was inundated with window shopping and unnecessary texts. And he had such a good time and was his first time hiring, and he almost missed out on the experience from his end too because of the unintended consequences related to others actions.

 

Well, that's ANOTHER reason I avoid texting for a first contact.

 

If someone seems like a window-shopping flake just tell them to fill out the form in quintuplicate; submit the original, salmon, and cardinal copies; retain the blue copy for their records; and place the goldenrod copy in the file after date-stamping it with the green stamp. Not the purple stamp, the green one. Audit might check the file. You just never know.

[mike carey]

With all this discussion, now I've gone off and checked out your website!