I need a vacation...

[MidwestCoastal]

Looking to go on vacation... hire someone for a couple of days, maybe 3 or 4.....

 

I know its risky not to 'try before you buy...for an overnight' but thought I would ask here....

 

About the destination - Prefer mountains & lakes over the beach & oceans.... A private cabin in the woods.... Can be your place, your friend's place, or a place you know... a fuck pad... great kitchen, TV, bedroom, and any other amenities...

 

About me - Total bottom here... into servicing hung verbal breeding tops.... vanilla with an edge.... 420 user.... Been kinda down and lonely.... BFE with a great deal of sex is what I like... downtime activities could include movies, talking, cuddling, board games, reading.... maybe curious to invite a third for a couple of hours or overnight... mid 40's, tall, average shape, all-Amer..... HIV neg... on PreP....very self conscious about my body

 

About you - Fairly open... but HUNG is a requirement.... HIV Neg PreP.... I'd take average body with huge cock over ripped body with average cock.

 

I have a couple of regulars but would love a new experience.

 

If you're not a fit, referrals would be appreciated...and of course, references from here are ideal.

[MscleLovr]

I know its risky not to 'try before you buy...for an overnight'

 

It’s not just risky; IMHO it’s potentially an expensive disaster.

 

Whichever guy you deem suitable, you must meet him first for a date and then an overnight date. Otherwise you simply have no idea whether he will drive you crazy after a few hours or snore loudly or insist on sleeping in when you’d hoped for morning sex, etc etc

[David1024]

Looking to go on vacation... hire someone for a couple of days, maybe 3 or 4.....

 

I know its risky not to 'try before you buy...for an overnight' but thought I would ask here....

 

About the destination - Prefer mountains & lakes over the beach & oceans.... A private cabin in the woods.... Can be your place, your friend's place, or a place you know... a fuck pad... great kitchen, TV, bedroom, and any other amenities...

 

About me - Total bottom here... into servicing hung verbal breeding tops.... vanilla with an edge.... 420 user.... Been kinda down and lonely.... BFE with a great deal of sex is what I like... downtime activities could include movies, talking, cuddling, board games, reading.... maybe curious to invite a third for a couple of hours or overnight... mid 40's, tall, average shape, all-Amer..... HIV neg... on PreP....very self conscious about my body

 

About you - Fairly open... but HUNG is a requirement.... HIV Neg PreP.... I'd take average body with huge cock over ripped body with average cock.

 

I have a couple of regulars but would love a new experience.

 

If you're not a fit, referrals would be appreciated...and of course, references from here are ideal.

 

I too strongly recommend a test drive first before commuting to an extended time. I’m a client, not an escort. Some of the guys I’ve hired have told me that they won’t book an overnight unless they’ve done an hour or two with the client first. The idea of a cabin in the woods might seem a bit freaky and unsafe for a first time.

[Mocha]

Looking to go on vacation... hire someone for a couple of days, maybe 3 or 4.....

 

I know its risky not to 'try before you buy...for an overnight' but thought I would ask here....

 

About the destination - Prefer mountains & lakes over the beach & oceans.... A private cabin in the woods.... Can be your place, your friend's place, or a place you know... a fuck pad... great kitchen, TV, bedroom, and any other amenities...

 

About me - Total bottom here... into servicing hung verbal breeding tops.... vanilla with an edge.... 420 user.... Been kinda down and lonely.... BFE with a great deal of sex is what I like... downtime activities could include movies, talking, cuddling, board games, reading.... maybe curious to invite a third for a couple of hours or overnight... mid 40's, tall, average shape, all-Amer..... HIV neg... on PreP....very self conscious about my body

 

About you - Fairly open... but HUNG is a requirement.... HIV Neg PreP.... I'd take average body with huge cock over ripped body with average cock.

 

I have a couple of regulars but would love a new experience.

 

If you're not a fit, referrals would be appreciated...and of course, references from here are ideal.

 

You can reach out to me. I have done the cabin in the woods, mountains, etc. Of course a cabin in the woods doesn’t have to be some spooky, isolated shack in the middle of nowhere. Some cabins are designed like a house, where you can like...pull up in a driveway. Hot tub. Pool. Movie theater. But there’s all sorts big and small.

 

However, your post is a bit ambiguous. It sounds like you’re looking for the ideal vacation with the right “one”, but it sounds like you’re doing a casting call. You say you’re looking to hire someone, but then say maybe 3 or 4. Which one is it? You say you’re wanting someone who is hung, but then rule out a potential suitor who has an average cock. What’s average anyway, and what’s hung enough?

 

I’m not poking fun at you, but just advising if you’re wanting to do such an endeavor and have it go well...you have to decide first what you want. I can tell you now, you’re not likely to get 3-4 guys together in a cabin without some bumps. 1 may not show up, 2 may not be like the pics, and another may not be into the situation. If you do want that, you’re better off getting the regulars who mentioned you already have, all together in one place.

 

For the most part however, it all sounds like a hot, fun fantasy that would be nice to get into. At the same time, you want to be more specific yet less non-negotiable in your quest.

 

I’ll say one thing that I tolerate, but I find can be in bad taste: if you’re going to have multiple guys, wait until all have arrived before starting anything. It’s not fair to the other escort who shows up to his client, and the client is getting fucked or sucking another escort’s dick.

 

I met a client the other month in a swinger’s club setting. Fine. But when I walked in, he was getting his ass licked by another guy who I had no idea was going to be there. I wasn’t mad, but at the same time, surprises tend to throw off the overall vibe.

 

When I ready myself to see a client, I want my session to begin with them. Not me walk into the middle of a movie. That’s kinda rude, and clients who do that usually do come off a bit inconsiderate in other ways.

Edited March 31, 2019 by Mocha

[MidwestCoastal]

I too strongly recommend a test drive first before commuting to an extended time. I’m a client, not an escort. Some of the guys I’ve hired have told me that they won’t book an overnight unless they’ve done an hour or two with the client first. The idea of a cabin in the woods might seem a bit freaky and unsafe for a first time.

 

I guess I could always choose a city with 2 or 3 possibilities, hook up night one, and then if we hit it off, try day two, night two, day three....

[jawjateck]

It is possible to sift through companions and find a good match without going through multiple prior interviews, but you need to be an experienced client, flexible and go-with-the-flow to pull it off successfully and repeatedly.

 

I thumbed through my black book and noticed over the past 7-8 years I have scheduled multi-nighters without a preliminary in-person interview approx. 20 times. Most of them were super awesome. The last 2 years, there have been some "meh" experiences and one I cut short, pro-rated his fee (mutual agreement), and put him on a plane home. My appetites and expectations are adjusting as I age, so "meh" sometimes happens. As for preliminary interviews, I have done those, then scheduled a longer meeting only to end with a "meh" too! It happens.

 

It's all about risk and reward. The equation has to be in my favor to set one up. I'm a value guy, so I don't agree to upper-tier fees to pull off one of these vacays. I definitely will not do one if I have any hesitation about its potential success.

[Guest]

I cannot suggest more strongly but that you do NOT book a long-term hire without a short-term (hour or evening) first. First of all, the whole trip may be a disaster. Second, you'll pay much more, since an escort will be more reluctant to commit to a long-term hire if he's never met you. Also, I suspect most escorts will want some money up-front if they've never met you, something I'd never be willing to do. If you must, try seekingarrangements.com. Those tend to be more starving students, etc., who'd be up for something like that. Before I met my fiancé on that site, I made arrangements to meet one of those men for a week-end. I paid for his ticket, but told him I'd pay him his fee once he got to my place. At the last minute, he asked for the cash up-front. I told him to enjoy his ticket. Sometime later he changed his mind, and begged me to try again, but it was too late.

[Mocha]

I met my fiancé on that site, I made arrangements to meet one of those men for a week-end. I paid for his ticket, but told him I'd pay him his fee once he got to my place. At the last minute, he asked for the cash up-front. I told him to enjoy his ticket. Sometime later he changed his mind, and begged me to try again, but it was too late.

 

Hmmmmmmmm....I don’t know about that. Obviously it’s water under the bridge, but that’s why I don’t like the idea of a client “flying me in”. Even though someone paid for his ticket, he obviously has to pack a bag, perhaps buy toiletries, pay for travel to airport, eat $10 burgers at said airport, and basically a host of things that cost money before actually getting paid anything.

 

I personally prefer to be directly paid ahead, even if it’s part of my session, so I can divide up the funds in ways that I need BEFORE the session takes place.

[Guest]

I always pay for all needed incidentals, including Lyft/Uber rides and meals, prior to the trip. The Lyft fare can even be paid remotely. I won't pay for the time up-front, though. Too easy for the man to cancel and pocket the money, and I have no recourse. Obviously, I'm sure the escort would prefer to be paid ahead of time, but that's not going to happen with me. I can't think off-hand of any other service where I pay ahead of time. I don't pay a restaurant, hair stylist, dentist, etc., ahead of time, then leave it up to them as to whether or not they want to provide the service.

Edited April 2, 2019 by Unicorn

[marylander1940]

Looking to go on vacation... hire someone for a couple of days, maybe 3 or 4.....

 

I know its risky not to 'try before you buy...for an overnight' but thought I would ask here....

 

About the destination - Prefer mountains & lakes over the beach & oceans.... A private cabin in the woods.... Can be your place, your friend's place, or a place you know... a fuck pad... great kitchen, TV, bedroom, and any other amenities...

 

About me - Total bottom here... into servicing hung verbal breeding tops.... vanilla with an edge.... 420 user.... Been kinda down and lonely.... BFE with a great deal of sex is what I like... downtime activities could include movies, talking, cuddling, board games, reading.... maybe curious to invite a third for a couple of hours or overnight... mid 40's, tall, average shape, all-Amer..... HIV neg... on PreP....very self conscious about my body

 

About you - Fairly open... but HUNG is a requirement.... HIV Neg PreP.... I'd take average body with huge cock over ripped body with average cock.

 

I have a couple of regulars but would love a new experience.

 

If you're not a fit, referrals would be appreciated...and of course, references from here are ideal.

 

Because you are a total bottom I’m sure you already know (or have seen online) a few guys who could qualify for the special vacation already.

 

May I suggest you do a search of 10 guys All over the world for us to pick the winner.

 

One more thing: a third guy wouldn’t go for a couple of hours to a cabin in the middle of the woods unless you talk to him about it in advance.

[big-n-tall]

I know it's a risk to hire someone for an overnight or longer without meeting. However, except for one well known Vegas-based escort (who was a no-show and time waster), every one of the overnights or weekends where I hired an unknown, worked out great. Maybe I have a sixth sense about people.

 

If you choose to hire an unknown for an extended time, I'd say do your research... trust your brain... and trust your gut. But yes, you stand a better chance of a positive outcome if you've met the man previously. Even that is not a 100% guarantee though.

 

It may also be easier for us to help you out if you post some links to guys who catch your eye. You never know... one of us may have met someone you're looking at. We can then give you more definitive advice.

 

Happy hunting.

[marylander1940]

@MidwestCoastal Big cock breeder?

 

@Kevin Slater ! Look no further!

[Mocha]

I always pay for all needed incidentals, including Lyft/Uber rides and meals, prior to the trip. The Lyft fare can even be paid remotely. I won't pay for the time up-front, though. Too easy for the man to cancel and pocket the money, and I have no recourse. Obviously, I'm sure the escort would prefer to be paid ahead of time, but that's not going to happen with me. I can't think off-hand of any other service where I pay ahead of time. I don't pay a restaurant, hair stylist, dentist, etc., ahead of time, then leave it up to them as to whether or not they want to provide the service.

 

I get what you’re saying...but what do airline tickets, movies, and the S 560 Mercedes being advertised as “luxury sport vehicle” at car rental place, and that brand new house in the country all have in common?

 

Airlines want their money upfront: no guarantee you’ll arrive to your destination on time, or at all if flying Boeing 737 Max

 

Movies want their money upfront: no guarantee you’ll like it

 

Rental cars make you buy their insurance upfront: no guarantee you’ll have to use it.

 

A new home requires you have to pay every fee before you move in, but as noted here: there is no guarantee you will be welcomed into the neighborhood by some racist town folk:

 

Moral of story: there are some services that require something upfront. But I obviously understand we’re dealing with something that has less legal recourse than the above mentioned. It’s harder to sue a rouge provider than it is to sit thru a bad movie ?

[Mocha]

I guess I could always choose a city with 2 or 3 possibilities, hook up night one, and then if we hit it off, try day two, night two, day three....

 

Speaking of vacation, are you not attending the vacation that everyone is talking about? That could be a good way to get a gist (or jism) of what it’s like having the type of scene you’re looking to go for.

[Guest]

I get what you’re saying...but what do airline tickets, movies, and the S 560 Mercedes being advertised as “luxury sport vehicle” at car rental place, and that brand new house in the country all have in common?

 

Airlines want their money upfront: no guarantee you’ll arrive to your destination on time, or at all if flying Boeing 737 Max

 

Movies want their money upfront: no guarantee you’ll like it

 

Rental cars make you buy their insurance upfront: no guarantee you’ll have to use it.

 

A new home requires you have to pay every fee before you move in, but as noted here: there is no guarantee you will be welcomed into the neighborhood by some racist town folk:

 

Moral of story: there are some services that require something upfront. But I obviously understand we’re dealing with something that has less legal recourse than the above mentioned. It’s harder to sue a rouge provider than it is to sit thru a bad movie ?

 

With the airlines, you're buying a contract. They don't have to be on time, but if they don't get you to your destination within a certain time frame, you're entitled to compensation. Insurance is also a contract. The insurance company pays if certain events occur. Obviously, the whole idea behind insurance is that the odds are you probably won't have to use it. Otherwise they wouldn't insure you. The home example is a complete non sequitur. It's a good, not a service. You pay when you get the home. What goes on after you buy the home is not the seller's responsibility. I'm sure there are a lot of communities full of racist and/or homophobic people. I personally wouldn't move into a community known for its homophobia (or go to an evangelic university, for example), but anyone is free to buy where they want to.

The movie is a reasonably valid counter-example, though obviously whether you like the movie or not is irrelevant. The agreement is only to show you the movie (you will get a refund if it can't be screened for some reason--I had that happen once when the projector went out of whack). It would take an unimaginably long time to exit the theater if people paid on the way out, and it's clearly not feasible. However, the money involved is fairly trivial compared to the fee of a long-term escort hire, and, unlike the escort, there is recourse if the movie theater fails to show the movie as promised. If the client pays the escort both the airfare (with incidentals) as well as the fee, and the escort bails, there is nothing the client can do legally. I have had it happen that the escort changed his fee after I bought him his plane ticket, so I just had to swallow the cost of the plane ticket (I didn't agree to the fee change, of course).

[Mocha]

With the airlines, you're buying a contract. They don't have to be on time, but if they don't get you to your destination within a certain time frame, you're entitled to compensation. Insurance is also a contract. The insurance company pays if certain events occur. Obviously, the whole idea behind insurance is that the odds are you probably won't have to use it. Otherwise they wouldn't insure you. The home example is a complete non sequitur. It's a good, not a service. You pay when you get the home. What goes on after you buy the home is not the seller's responsibility. I'm sure there are a lot of communities full of racist and/or homophobic people. I personally wouldn't move into a community known for its homophobia (or go to an evangelic university, for example), but anyone is free to buy where they want to.

The movie is a reasonably valid counter-example, though obviously whether you like the movie or not is irrelevant. The agreement is only to show you the movie (you will get a refund if it can't be screened for some reason--I had that happen once when the projector went out of whack). It would take an unimaginably long time to exit the theater if people paid on the way out, and it's clearly not feasible. However, the money involved is fairly trivial compared to the fee of a long-term escort hire, and, unlike the escort, there is recourse if the movie theater fails to show the movie as promised. If the client pays the escort both the airfare (with incidentals) as well as the fee, and the escort bails, there is nothing the client can do legally. I have had it happen that the escort changed his fee after I bought him his plane ticket, so I just had to swallow the cost of the plane ticket (I didn't agree to the fee change, of course).

 

You justified everything perfectly, but all in all, I guess, “it varies” ☝?

 

Me personally: I actually don’t like getting my whole rate before meeting a client, because I prefer not to spend before I get. So by no means am I condoning getting an entire fee upfront.