Silliness Over Rates

[tenderloin]

I reached out to a provider on RM, told him I found him attractive and that his services aligned with my interests. Asked him his rate. His reply: "Hey there, thanks! I usually like to hear an offer first...." So replied with a $$ range that I usually try to stay within (it wasn't $30, but it wasn't $400 either). His reply was peevish and insulted, and cut off further discussion.

 

Time wasted on both sides....

[+ oldNbusted]

Admiral Ackbar would not have written back...

 

P.S. @tenderloin Love your avatar

[YoungAD]

I reached out to a provider on RM, told him I found him attractive and that his services aligned with my interests. Asked him his rate. His reply: "Hey there, thanks! I usually like to hear an offer first...." So replied with a $$ range that I usually try to stay within (it wasn't $30, but it wasn't $400 either). His reply was peevish and insulted, and cut off further discussion.

 

Time wasted on both sides....

 

Without a name, your post is not particularly helpful.

[tenderloin]

Without a name, your post is not particularly helpful.

The last time I offered a critical comment of an escort by name I was subject to abuse.

 

I guess my point in posting was to suggest that 'scorts shouldn't be offended if they ask a question like "what will you offer?" If you have a price in mind, just friggin' share it. If it is too high, the market will tell you.

Edited September 2, 2018 by tenderloin

[+ azdr0710]

Without a name, your post is not particularly helpful.

 

entirely untrue......your typically grumpy posts continue with this one.......the OP is only relating his experience and, primarily, inviting comment on the practice of negotiating rates

Edited September 2, 2018 by azdr0710

[Rudynate]

I reached out to a provider on RM, told him I found him attractive and that his services aligned with my interests. Asked him his rate. His reply: "Hey there, thanks! I usually like to hear an offer first...." So replied with a $$ range that I usually try to stay within (it wasn't $30, but it wasn't $400 either). His reply was peevish and insulted, and cut off further discussion.

 

Time wasted on both sides....

 

Was it, tho? You found out that you and he aren't a match. That's worth something.

[bnm73]

I can appreciate the frustration with his attempt at a "soft sell..." especially since it could have been taken as an invitation to haggle/dicker.

 

As a consumer (and I'm not just talking about escorts, but in general), I've found that if someone is reluctant to name a price -- even a "base price" -- then it is higher than most people would be willing to pay without some serious thought/consideration.

[+ ButchAtl]

Funny (as in strange)...he invited negotiations, then refused to counter your beginning offer.

Having no idea of his range, it seems you made a reasonable offer; ...he could have at least replied with something like "sorry, we are just too far apart" or similar rather than arbitrarily ending it.

[Guest]

...Asked him his rate. His reply: "Hey there, thanks! I usually like to hear an offer first...."

 

Is it possible he was trying to confirm you were not setting a legal trap?

[maninsoma]

Without a name, your post is not particularly helpful.

 

I don't think a name in this case is necessary, but the rest of the post was sufficiently vague that it's difficult to know what went wrong. We know the client's initial offer wasn't between $30 and $400 but we don't know what it was. Was it $300? If so, I would hope that a "porn star escort" would at least appreciate that that is a reasonable offer -- even if he believes he should be paid more -- and instead of responding with indignation provide a counter offer. But if the client's offer was $200 (a typical rate two decades ago but something generally not found today and certainly not a rate a "porn star" would expect), I could understand the escort just viewing the inquiry as a waste of time and shutting the door. For bartering to work well, both parties have to be reasonable with their offers lest the other side think that spending any time on the negotiation is simply not worth it.

[tenderloin]

I don't think a name in this case is necessary, but the rest of the post was sufficiently vague that it's difficult to know what went wrong. We know the client's initial offer wasn't between $30 and $400 but we don't know what it was. Was it $300? If so, I would hope that a "porn star escort" would at least appreciate that that is a reasonable offer -- even if he believes he should be paid more -- and instead of responding with indignation provide a counter offer. But if the client's offer was $200 (a typical rate two decades ago but something generally not found today and certainly not a rate a "porn star" would expect), I could understand the escort just viewing the inquiry as a waste of time and shutting the door. For bartering to work well, both parties have to be reasonable with their offers lest the other side think that spending any time on the negotiation is simply not worth it.

 

Not to be argumentative, but everyone on RM is listed as a "porn star." This guy is not a "star" in that sense of the word. And I guess my point wasn't clear (my fault - I should have mentioned that this involved a "second-tier city, ie not NYC/LA/Miami): when you ask for bargaining, you invite and need to be prepared for give and take. Why would I start off at $300, which would get me many of the "name" guys on RM in NYC, when I know he is going to come back with a counter-offer?

 

And you should re-check your market rate assumptions: $250 rents a lot of men in NY.

[Rudynate]

Not to be argumentative, but everyone on RM is listed as a "porn star." This guy is not a "star" in that sense of the word. And I guess my point wasn't clear (my fault - I should have mentioned that this involved a "second-tier city, ie not NYC/LA/Miami): when you ask for bargaining, you invite and need to be prepared for give and take. Why would I start off at $300, which would get me many of the "name" guys on RM in NYC, when I know he is going to come back with a counter-offer?

 

And you should re-check your market rate assumptions: $250 rents a lot of men in NY.

 

 

And in SF, you can get some very desirable men for 200.00, sometimes with a discount after the first hour.

[thickornotatall]

Maybe the rate depends on what will happen. Anywhere from a handshake to a full on drilling with a side of French kissing. For $200 I might suck your cock (9+ only) Just joking..that big it's free!

[+ Reisr30]

I really dislike a la carte pricing. I’m not looking for a steakhouse approach where I have to pay extra for my sides. I normally cut off conversation when it starts going there...

[+ freecahill1965]

And in SF, you can get some very desirable men for 200.00, sometimes with a discount after the first hour.

It seems like if your not overly horney, you can find great guys for $200 even in Boston. I would say that 60% of my regulars charge $200. The ones that charge more are usually worth it and many times give extra perks. I do not think that price dictates quality. I have also found many of those charging lower prices are way more into what they do but that is just my opinion.

[tenderloin]

Admiral Ackbar would not have written back...

 

P.S. @tenderloin Love your avatar

 

Re my avatar: thanks. For real assmen, there is no more tempting a celebrity tuchus on this planet than that of Rafael Nadal. What I wouldn't give for five minutes between those cheeks....

[+ VictorPowers]

Sounds like that provider was playing games. I wouldn’t read too far into it. Maybe it’s a good thing an appointment was avoided.

[HotWhiteThirties]

This helps me think of a response if I’m ever posed with a similar question in response to a rate request. Is this respectful enough without being too nasty?

 

“I wouldn’t dream of guessing what your time is worth. To me, you are a far better judge of that than me. If you happen to make that determination anytime soon, do let me know. And while it seems like we would be a good match, I respect your time and will continue to pursue other options as opposed to wasting your time any further unless I hear something different from you. I wish you the best in your business.”

 

Too cheeky?

Edited September 5, 2018 by HotWhiteThirties

[+ freecahill1965]

This helps me think of a response if I’m ever posed with a similar question in response to a rate request. Is this respectful enough without being too nasty?

 

“I wouldn’t dream of guessing what your time is worth. To me, you are a far better judge of that than me. If you happen to make that determination anytime soon, do let me know. And while it seems like we would be a good match, I respect your time and will continue to pursue other options as opposed to wasting your time any further unless I hear something different from you. I wish you the best in your business.”

 

Too cheeky?

I would make a minor edit.

“I wouldn’t dream of guessing what your time is worth. To me, you are a far better judge of that than me. If you happen to make that determination anytime soon, do let me know?? While it seems like we would be a goodmatch, I want to respect your time. I hope to hear from you soon.”

[tenderloin]

I would make a minor edit.

“I wouldn’t dream of guessing what your time is worth. To me, you are a far better judge of that than me. If you happen to make that determination anytime soon, do let me know?? While it seems like we would be a goodmatch, I want to respect your time. I hope to hear from you soon.”

 

Well put. A witer and his editor working so well together - beautiful thing : )

[+ freecahill1965]

Well put. A writer and his editor working so well together - beautiful thing : )

Correct! Working with a hot guy in his thirties is a beautiful thing.

[+ tassojunior]

This is a provider who doesn't have many clients and rationalizes it as they are too expensive for most. They can't imagine that they're not the hottest of the hot and the few dates will work itself out in higher prices. After a while playing these games they'll realize they're just not all that and possibly give up. If they'd just post union scale they'd save themselves and clients a lot of frustration.

 

Union scale is 250. (200-300). I verify 250 to head off a 300 request. As in "Ok, then let's say 5pm at your hotel, condom, 250, text if late." Of course a few would take 200 but that's sort of a lowball offer to most and might be insulting to some of these divas.

[HotWhiteThirties]

Correct! Working with a hot guy in his thirties is a beautiful thing.

 

Hahahahaha! I think the edited version does have merit.

 

:p:p

[HotWhiteThirties]

You know, @freecahill1965, when I created that moniker several years ago, I didn’t think about the time when it would no longer be true. That time is coming on faster than I imagined.

[+ freecahill1965]

You know, @freecahill1965, when I created that moniker several years ago, I didn’t think about the time when it would no longer be true. That time is coming on faster than I imagined.

Yeah, but your sexyness in part is also your personality as presented in your forum posts. It not just your moniker. Some people just exerburate sexiness. A reason why I have hired some forum escorts site unseen. It was their sexy personalities that made them exciting but being good looking helped.