New iPhones

[+ Reisr30]

I have an iPhone 6 Plus and have been holding out for the new iPhones. I thought about getting an iPhoneX but thought I’d wait.

 

I have another phone that is a Samsung S8 but I find it too narrow. Does anyone have an any experience with an iPhoneX and whether they find it too narrow?

[Kevin Slater]

What you want to do is get the iPhone Xcort. It'll claim to be thicker than it is.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ Charlie]

What you want to do is get the iPhone Xcort. It'll claim to be thicker than it is.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ deej]

I had the iPhone 6+ and upgraded to iPhone X. Couldn’t be happier.

 

I always thought the 6+ was too big. Overall screen size makes the X a good compromise.

[+ nycman]

I’m not a huge fan of the iPhoneX.

 

I miss the home button. Now, I can’t open my phone without

either raising it to my face or entering my pin. I used to be able

to discretely open it with just my finger tip under the table.

 

Overall, I find it harder to navigate and less intuitive than

the “older” iPhones. Prettier....but more difficult.

[bnm73]

I’m not a huge fan of the iPhoneX.

 

I miss the home button. Now, I can’t open my phone without

either raising it to my face or entering my pin. I used to be able

to discretely open it with just my finger tip under the table.

 

Overall, I find it harder to navigate and less intuitive than

the “older” iPhones. Prettier....but more difficult.

 

I have steadfastly refused to activate "touch id" or "face id" out of security concerns.

 

According to US case law, for example, a you can't be forced to give up a password/passcode without a court order (which can still be fought). That's a Bill of Rights violation.

 

The Bill of Rights does not protect your fingertips or face in the same manner. Police (and others) can still force you to open our phone/contacts/texts/etc. by physically holding your phone to your face or putting your finger on your phone. Courts have ruled that is NOT a violation.

 

Do I expect to be arrested? No. If I get caught up in some police craziness of some sort, do I want to protect my privacy? Absolutely.

[+ honcho]

I have steadfastly refused to activate "touch id" or "face id" out of security concerns.

 

According to US case law, for example, a you can't be forced to give up a password/passcode without a court order (which can still be fought). That's a Bill of Rights violation.

 

The Bill of Rights does not protect your fingertips or face in the same manner. Police (and others) can still force you to open our phone/contacts/texts/etc. by physically holding your phone to your face or putting your finger on your phone. Courts have ruled that is NOT a violation.

 

Do I expect to be arrested? No. If I get caught up in some police craziness of some sort, do I want to protect my privacy? Absolutely.

 

Thank you for the reminder!

 

(I wonder whether, on an iPhone I've already set up, it's possible to revoke touchID, and if I do, what the impact would be on apple pay, which wants me to confirm with a finger print).

[+ Keith30309]

I have steadfastly refused to activate "touch id" or "face id" out of security concerns.

 

According to US case law, for example, a you can't be forced to give up a password/passcode without a court order (which can still be fought). That's a Bill of Rights violation.

 

The Bill of Rights does not protect your fingertips or face in the same manner. Police (and others) can still force you to open our phone/contacts/texts/etc. by physically holding your phone to your face or putting your finger on your phone. Courts have ruled that is NOT a violation.

 

Do I expect to be arrested? No. If I get caught up in some police craziness of some sort, do I want to protect my privacy? Absolutely.

I see your point about protecting your privacy.

 

I guess I see the cost/benefit equation a little differently.

As a practical matter, what do you see as the likelihood of a circumstance in which you refuse to unlock you phone manually and you are forcibly restrained and the phone held to your head, which would necessarily be held in some vice-like manner, in order to unlock it without your consent ?

I have a cheap Walmart burner phone with access only to a dummy email account and some games that I will happily unlock for Canadian immigration, or any other country's where this is a likelihood. On my primary device I've a couple of discreet layers of protection for things I prefer to keep private and lots and lots of trivial content a bored border agent can scan thru.

 

What problem are you trying to solve that I'm missing ?

[bnm73]

I see your point about protecting your privacy.

 

I guess I see the cost/benefit equation a little differently.

As a practical matter, what do you see as the likelihood of a circumstance in which you refuse to unlock you phone manually and you are forcibly restrained and the phone held to your head, which would necessarily be held in some vice-like manner, in order to unlock it without your consent ?

I have a cheap Walmart burner phone with access only to a dummy email account and some games that I will happily unlock for Canadian immigration, or any other country's where this is a likelihood. On my primary device I've a couple of discreet layers of protection for things I prefer to keep private and lots and lots of trivial content a bored border agent can scan thru.

 

What problem are you trying to solve that I'm missing ?

 

I don't know that I was trying to solve any problem....I was just offering a bit of relevant information once face id/touch id was raised.

 

The police in the US are not famed for respecting the rights of the individual. Having one officer hold your head (including using choke-holds) while another raises your phone to it is not unheard of. Nor is it uncommon for a policeman to force open your fingers while your are handcuffed behind your back in order to try to activate a "touch ID."

 

Since escorting -- and hiring escorts -- is illegal in most US states (and flying or otherwise transporting people across state lines for so-called"immoral purposes" violates federal law -- bring in the FBI!), it never hurts to be aware what one's legal rights are....what what things you would think would be included in civil rights that are not.

[bnm73]

Thank you for the reminder!

 

(I wonder whether, on an iPhone I've already set up, it's possible to revoke touchID, and if I do, what the impact would be on apple pay, which wants me to confirm with a finger print).

 

In the current version of the iPhone software (11.4.1), you can turn off touch ID specifically to unlock your phone but leave it on for apple pay and/or the iTunes store. Go to Settings>touch ID & passcode. I believe you can also "forget" the fingerprint from there.

[+ honcho]

I have steadfastly refused to activate "touch id" or "face id" out of security concerns.

 

According to US case law, for example, a you can't be forced to give up a password/passcode without a court order (which can still be fought). That's a Bill of Rights violation.

 

The Bill of Rights does not protect your fingertips or face in the same manner. Police (and others) can still force you to open our phone/contacts/texts/etc. by physically holding your phone to your face or putting your finger on your phone. Courts have ruled that is NOT a violation.

 

Do I expect to be arrested? No. If I get caught up in some police craziness of some sort, do I want to protect my privacy? Absolutely.

 

Thank you for the reminder!

 

(I wonder whether, on an iPhone I've already set up, it's possible to revoke touchID, and if I do, what the impact would be on apple pay, which wants me to confirm with a finger print).

 

In the current version of the iPhone software (11.4.1), you can turn off touch ID specifically to unlock your phone but leave it on for apple pay and/or the iTunes store. Go to Settings>touch ID & passcode. I believe you can also "forget" the fingerprint from there.

 

Thanks!

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

If the police want something from you, they're going to figure out a way to get it. Same goes for CBP. My advice is to keep nothing incriminating on your phone.

 

As to the iPhone discussion: I plan on going from an X to the X Plus

[+ Reisr30]

 

As to the iPhone discussion: I plan on going from an X to the X Plus

 

Is there any preview that outlines whether the X Plus will be wider than then X? One of the reasons I don't like my Samsung S8+ is I find it a bit too narrow and difficult to type with. That's why I prefer my older iPhone 6 Plus. Thanks in advance.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Is there any preview that outlines whether the X Plus will be wider than then X? One of the reasons I don't like my Samsung S8+ is I find it a bit too narrow and difficult to type with. That's why I prefer my older iPhone 6 Plus. Thanks in advance.

 

There is a ton of speculation, but no one will really know until Apple has their event on 9/12.

 

I just hope it fits on the inductive charging pad in my car. The X fits fine with room to spare. We shall see.

[+ FrankR]

If the police want something from you, they're going to figure out a way to get it. Same goes for CBP. My advice is to keep nothing incriminating on your phone.

 

As to the iPhone discussion: I plan on going from an X to the X Plus

I plan to wait for the iPhone XXX - the phone has to be worthy of my d_ck pics!

Edited September 4, 2018 by FrankR

[bnm73]

I plan to wait for the iPhone XXX - the phone as to be worthy of my d_ck pics!

Sure that isn't the iPhone XS (Extra Small)?

 

/end snark

 

(just kidding, of course. I'm sure you have a cock of biblical proportions.)

[+ oldNbusted]

The general consensus recommendation is to wait to evaluate the iPhone Xr, which I happen to agree with.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Have had the new iPhone XS Max a week. Great device. Buttery smooth, bigger screen, great camera.

 

#HappyCamper

[+ Hoover42]

Besides the camera and screen size, are there functional benefits you like? I’m more about the function than the form....I have an X now

The improved camera and camera software of the XS is the main functional improvement over the X.

 

If you don't want either the bigger screen offered by the XS Max, or better photos, there is really no point in upgrading; the X is still a fantastic phone.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Besides the camera and screen size, are there functional benefits you like? I’m more about the function than the form....I have an X now

 

It's been said it's Apple's best performing screen, ever. I'd agree. The OLED contrast is pretty damned impressive.

 

More RAM = faster, smoother experience.

 

Agreed that the X is a great device: It's what I was coming from before. Unless you want more screen real estate and just knowing you've got Apple's flagship mobile device, it's not really worth the upgrade.

[Max]

Upgraded from 7 plus to XS Max only because I was phone-shamed by a friend with an X a couple of weeks ago. Peer pressure...

 

Love it! Screen is great. I was skeptical about the facial recognition (what's wrong with finger print???) but love it now.

 

Jump out of shower, wet finger didn't work but wet hair not a problem with new phone.

[+ deej]

Upgraded from 7 plus to XS Max only because I was phone-shamed by a friend with an X a couple of weeks ago. Peer pressure...

 

Love it! Screen is great. I was skeptical about the facial recognition (what's wrong with finger print???) but love it now.

 

Jump out of shower, wet finger didn't work but wet hair not a problem with new phone.

I was in the camp that was skeptical of facial recognition but took about 2 minutes to decide this is the way things ought to be. In fact, iPhone X solved almost every gripe about the 6+ I had before.

 

That said, I’ll skip upgrades for a couple of models, as is my usual practice.

[samhexum]

I have steadfastly refused to activate "touch id" or "face id" out of security concerns.

I was in the camp that was skeptical of facial recognition.

I was skeptical about the facial recognition (what's wrong with finger print???) but love it now.