What is your price range?

[MrMattBig]

Question to clients...

What is your typical price range and how much time and how "detailed" do you expect that time to be in accordance with your price range?

 

I ask because I just had some inquire about my rates. I reponded with my hourly rate of 240. They proceeded to say it was outside their range. Not wanting this person to miss out on a great experience, I asked them what their budget was. They said 140, to which I said I could meet them for 30 minutes for that amount. Their response was "thanks, but I will pass".

 

Did I respond to them with a reasonable offer?

[bnm73]

Question to clients...

What is your typical price range and how much time and how "detailed" do you expect that time to be in accordance with your price range?

 

I ask because I just had some inquire about my rates. I reponded with my hourly rate of 240. They proceeded to say it was outside their range. Not wanting this person to miss out on a great experience, I asked them what their budget was. They said 140, to which I said I could meet them for 30 minutes for that amount. Their response was "thanks, but I will pass".

 

Did I respond to them with a reasonable offer?

 

I think your offer was reasonable...They said "I have this much to spend." You said "This is what I can do for that much."

 

BUT there may have been a different way to approach it.

 

It is possible that the potential client was trying to haggle with you. You quoted your rate. They lowballed. They may have expected you to say something like "sorry, but I can't do that for less than $200." They may have been willing to settle somewhere in the $180 neighborhood. That's just speculation, though, and not many escorts like to engage in haggling like that.

 

Remember, YOU'RE the service provider. You get to set your own rates for any particular appointment. If someone can't pay your normal rate and you want to make an exception, that's fine. If someone doesn't have the cash to pay for your services, that's fine, too. Sometimes things don't work out.

[MrMattBig]

I think your offer was reasonable...They said "I have this much to spend." You said "This is what I can do for that much."

 

BUT there may have been a different way to approach it.

 

It is possible that the potential client was trying to haggle with you. You quoted your rate. They lowballed. They may have expected you to say something like "sorry, but I can't do that for less than $200." They may have been willing to settle somewhere in the $180 neighborhood. That's just speculation, though, and not many escorts like to engage in haggling like that.

 

Remember, YOU'RE the service provider. You get to set your own rates for any particular appointment. If someone can't pay your normal rate and you want to make an exception, that's fine. If someone doesn't have the cash to pay for your services, that's fine, too. Sometimes things don't work out.

 

Absolutely!

I am business minded when it comes to pricing, I have my rate at 240, to allow room to take 200 on a super selective case by case basis.

Anything less that is offered to me, in my eyes is not sufficient negotiation if you are going to offer someone more than 20% less than what they are asking for. In those instances I offer a 30 minute appointment. I view things from both sides of the fence as I hire occasionally as well.

I just want to get a sense on what someone sees just on the hiring side as I am not impartial because I see both sides.

[+ HornyRetiree]

Did I respond to them with a reasonable offer?

 

I think that you did! Any range that I (or others) have should not be used to try and negotiate and lower/cut posted/stated rates!

 

IF YOU ARE MORE THAN I CAN AFFORD, I move on.

 

FYI: your rates are very reasonable and fair. If you were in my area, I wouldn’t be trying to knock your rates down!

 

I would be asking if you can function with and top a 70 yo man and make it appear/pretend you are enjoying it!

 

Your answers to those questions, not your rate, would determine if we had a session together:)

[+ HornyRetiree]

have my rate at 240, to allow room to take 200 on a super selective case by case basis.

 

LOL:) like a Senior Discount? JK!

[+ FrankR]

Question to clients...

What is your typical price range and how much time and how "detailed" do you expect that time to be in accordance with your price range?

 

I ask because I just had some inquire about my rates. I reponded with my hourly rate of 240. They proceeded to say it was outside their range. Not wanting this person to miss out on a great experience, I asked them what their budget was. They said 140, to which I said I could meet them for 30 minutes for that amount. Their response was "thanks, but I will pass".

 

Did I respond to them with a reasonable offer?

My price range is pretty wide - I make allowances for the location I am in, whether I am hosting or not AND what I am looking for (massage vs whatever). Usually I look to schedule 90 minutes- - I am usually pretty detailed about what I am looking for, but not explicit, if you know what I mean...

 

Nothing wrong with your response - I find it reasonable.

[+ g56whiz]

Not a reasonable response. Don’t ever sell yourself short cuz once you do others will try to haggle you down. Once they mentioned $140 you should have politely wished them well in their search and ended the call. Let them ponder over what they might have missed if they hadn’t been so cheap.

[MrMattBig]

Not a reasonable response. Don’t ever sell yourself short cuz once you do others will try to haggle you down. Once they mentioned $140 you should have politely wished them well in their search and ended the call. Let them ponder over what they might have missed if they hadn’t been so cheap.

 

 

I agree with you 1000 percent!!!

However, money is for "time spent together", and I believe in hammering that ideal home to would be clients instead of having some saying "

Will you take 100, I just want to suck you".

Those responses I ignore out right. And I do have a basement price that I won't bother to get ready for anything less than said price.

Also, to the person that just said no thanks, I politely responded, "no worries, let me know when you are able to save up your funds, but keep in mind I do have a busy schedule so don't wait too long. Hope to meet in the future".

Kill them with kindness

[MiamiLooker]

My range has been $60-$100. One guy I've been seeing for six years, since he was 19, I usually give him $200.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

Never hired in SF, but from what I hear, for SF, your price seems about right. If you reduce a bit, you’ll get more bookings, which could result in more money overall, but do you want more bookings? Would you have the time and the energy? If you increase, you get less bookings but a little more money for each, so the loss of income would be there but maybe not too bad, which, in certain periods of your life might be a convenient arrangement.

You can experiment a bit to see the impact of your price changes for new potential clients. (I don’t recommend to increase for your regulars, that might piss them off).

[+ g56whiz]

Also, to the person that just said no thanks, I politely responded, "no worries, let me know when you are able to save up your funds, but keep in mind I do have a busy schedule so don't wait too long. Hope to meet in the future".

Kill them with kindness

 

You’re assuming that the client didn’t have the cash. It could just as well have been that they had the cash but for what ever reason were unwilling to part with it for the service offered at that particular moment. Better you should kill them with politeness not kindness. You don’t want to leave them thinking that you pity their poverty.

[+ Keith30309]

My range has been $60-$100. One guy I've been seeing for six years, since he was 19, I usually give him $200.

You’re paying $60 for an hour of an escort’s time?

 

 

In my case it depends: 1) are there any extenuating circumstances that shift expenses in one direction or the other (for example, I have to get a hotel room... he has to get a hotel room... it’s a very long drive... etc.), and, 2) how badly do I want to meet him ?

 

The answer is for 2 hours anywhere from $200 (a little unusual) to $600 (very, very rare).

 

EDIT: to @MrMattBig - I fondly remember our meeting and think you are spot on target. Regarding the $140 I would have been inclined to simply disengage from that client because it likely would have not been a positive experience regardless.

Edited August 25, 2018 by Keith30309

[MrMattBig]

Never hired in SF, but from what I hear, for SF, your price seems about right. If you reduce a bit, you’ll get more bookings, which could result in more money overall, but do you want more bookings? Would you have the time and the energy? If you increase, you get less bookings but a little more money for each, so the loss of income would be there but maybe not too bad, which, in certain periods of your life might be a convenient arrangement.

You can experiment a bit to see the impact of your price changes for new potential clients. (I don’t recommend to increase for your regulars, that might piss them off).

 

Thanks for your input!

My time is limited by family and school obligations, but I definitely have the energy to accommodate everyone!

I am very knowledgeable of my body, energy levels, and capabilities.

I feel that I am at a perfect equilibrium with pricing, number of appointments and income, and don't plan to raise my rates until at least next year when I am able to put on more muscle.

My question is not so much looking for advice as to try and ascertain what clients opinions and expectations are when it comes to price and time/activities.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

My question is not so much looking for advice as to try and ascertain what clients opinions and expectations are when it comes to price and time/activities.

Oh I see. Sorry for the lesson in economics!

Well, I have seen your pictures. You clearly put a lot of effort into looking good. I think this client’s expectation were clearly outside the market price. Maybe after he has been rejected by everyone, he will realise that if he doesn’t accept the market price, he will remain escort-less.

[+ HornyRetiree]

next year when I am able to put on more muscle.

 

From my perspective, you don’t need more muscle! Stunningly HOT the way you are.

Edited August 24, 2018 by HornyRetiree

[MiamiLooker]

You’re paying $60 for an hour of an escort’s time?

I don't discuss time with an escort.

[Epigonos]

I have always hired for dinner or lunch (the escorts choice) and then about two hours of play time. In the past $500 was usually sufficient to cover that type of arrangement BUT no longer -- I guess it's call inflation. I find now that guys are frequently asking between $600 and $750. I'm usually willing to go $600 but am really having trouble agreeing to $750. For $750 the guy has to be something VERY special and that isn't what I'm seeing from most of the escorts asking that price -- they are just very average in my eyes. Maybe I've been hiring for too long and it is time for me to hang it up.

Now to address your specific point. I think you were more than generous with your offer. Were I you I certainly would NOT question my business practices.

I'm looking forward to seeing you at the Palm Springs Weekend this year.

[Wolfer]

If an escort's stated fee is outside my budget I just thank them, say it's out of my budget and move on. No one has ever come back with a counter offer and I would not accept one even if it was offered. Because I feel the escort's rate is their rate and them lowering it would make me worry if they would also lower the quality of their service accordingly. Or be resentful of me because I'm the client they have to take on 'cause rent is due or any other thing that might make me regret having accepted the counter offer...

 

In all my hires only two times was I offered a discount (both on overnights) and both those experienced turned out not great (one was downright horrible). So that's really made me cautious on negotiating fees. In the sense that I don't negotiate them at all. I just state the amount of time I want to spend and let them state their fee. If it's more than I can budget, I move on.

 

To be honest, if I would have been on the receiving end of that particular conversation, it would have been a red flag if you'd opened up the fee conversation (because of the previous bad experiences) and the half hour offer would honestly have left me with a bad aftertaste. Because to me it would come across like taking on a quicky, like easy cash. That I'd get shoved in between your barber and gym appointments. Come in the door, pump 'n' dump, grab the cash, bye! I would not have accepted the half hour offer either for those reasons, even if it had been in my budget to do so.

 

But then I have self-esteem issues and I blow all my cash on hiring people to make me believe I'm worth loving. (Yes, I'm in therapy for that.) So I might overreact a little.

 

I need a hug now.

 

(Way to make this about you, Wolfer, back on topic now!)

[instudiocity]

For an hour, $200-300 range.

 

Under $200 scares me. Is the escort turning tricks or engaging in professional services. Over $300 is just buying a big ego in my mind. $300 per hour is $5/minute.

 

Granted for every hour an escort spends with a client, he’s spend 2 hours working out, cleaning up, traveling to me or straightening up his place so I’m really employing him for 3 hours at $66-100 per hour. I think that’s very reasonable since I earn between $70/ and $100/hour, too.

[Mo Mason]

It seems shady to me if an escort asks for less than $200 an hour. If it's someone I REALLY want to meet, I don't mind going up to about $400 an hour.

 

My ideal range is $220 to $300

[rvwnsd]

You were more than reasonable. $140/hour is crazy. I think he was trying to haggle you down.

 

My range is typically $200 - $300 an hour. I'd say most of my hires are in the $250 range. Recently a guy quoted me $300. Based on his ad and some of his pics his rate seemed high and so I declined. He thanked me for reaching out and being up-front and we moved on.

[+ tassojunior]

All I can say from experience is the cheapest ones often turn out to be the best in bed and any escort is cheaper than a lover.

 

Also the "masseurs" I know make more at a base of $150/hr than the escorts I know at $300. Every time slot is filled and every 10 minutes it's another "let's make a deal" for add-ons. Any good businessman knows the key is to get the customer in the door (or bed). Then talk them into extra service. But get them in.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I think I have never paid more than 300. Most times between 200/250, many times between 100 and 200. A few times less than 100.

I am right now in an extra effort to enforce a cap of 200.

[rvwnsd]

All I can say from experience is the cheapest ones often turn out to be the best...

Agree 100%!

[ManSouth]

Matt was totally reasonable in his response. I would feel that way even if I had never enjoyed Matt's company. He visited me 2 years ago on Decadence weekend. I had originally requested more than one hour, and once he was here, I soon wanted to extend that time. Matt cheerfully agreed. The numbers were all quite reasonable, and the experience was one of my best ever. Just look around at how many guys may quote higher or lower numbers, and evaluate whether you think the experience will be better than it would be with Matt. He shares a great deal of info online, to assist in reaching your expectations. And then there are his photos...