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Worst case: They mistaken me for someone else who screwed them, send me a pissed-off note, then realize their mistake, and apologize. 
Consider myself warned. They aren't perfect and might make a (rare) mistake. 
Yes, this forum is great to warn people of shady behavior, of which there's plenty out there, but this is hardly that, especially when they have a pretty stellar reputation. 
I felt they were getting unfairly railroaded here by some, hence my speaking up.
Regardless, to each his own!
 

I just saw Alex Blessings - based on the recommendations in this chat. I can’t tell you how great Alex was - personable, sexy and an excellent masseur.  Alex offers three levels of massage - (1) therapeutic, (2) therapeutic and sensual, and  (3)  therapeutic, sensual  and erotic.  I went with the third option, and what I liked best was that it was not just erotic, but also therapeutic and sensual.  (I have been with too many masseurs who are not great masseurs, and then give you a quick jerk at the end.  Alex is the exact opposite.)  Alex is what I was exactly looking for - and lucky for me he is local!  

Like I said, they probably mixed up their clients, as I am taking the client/commenter's explanation here at face value, but that doesn't make them scammers as some suggest they could be.
But if you leave cash, odds are, if they don't see it, they'll be informing you of that before you get to the car.
Unfortunately, Paypal puts the providers at risk as a bad client can reverse their payment once they're gone, and leave the provider totally screwed. They can duke it out via Paypal but obviously if details of the service aren't in concert with Paypal's terms, it gets murky and perhaps more costly.
There are scamming providers out there, but usually, thanks to a site like this, word of mouth spreads quickly about their lack of character. Given Froy & Gabrielsp have been around for some time, and have almost entirely stellar feedback, I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt as far as any scamming accusation is concerned.
There are bad clients too, and as I saw another provider shortly after this happened to him, I saw the hurt he felt that he was used like that, which, I suspect, felt worse than the loss of income for one session.

I rarely step into public discussions, but in this case I believe a measured perspective is valuable.
 
I have been a client of Froy and Gabriel for several years and have engaged their services multiple times. My experiences have been consistently professional, discreet, well-organized, and conducted with a level of care that reflects serious business ethics.
 
When you work with providers over a long period of time, you develop a clear sense of their character and operational standards. For that reason, the claims being suggested here are fundamentally inconsistent with everything I and many other long-term clients have personally experienced.
 
Established professionals do not maintain strong reputations, loyal repeat clientele, and years of positive feedback by engaging in dishonest behavior. Longevity in a service business is rarely accidental.
 
It is also worth recognizing that payment disputes and chargebacks are not always a straightforward reflection of wrongdoing. Financial platforms frequently advise merchants not to discuss transaction details publicly, which means forum readers are almost never seeing the complete picture.
 
While I cannot speak to the specifics of a private interaction between other parties, I can speak with confidence about patterns and the pattern I have observed over the years is one of reliability, professionalism, and integrity.
 
I would strongly encourage readers to evaluate the broader reputation and long-term consistency of any business before forming conclusions based solely on a single online account.

I still have not seen Froy or his partner Gabrielsp, though I hope to one day.
I have no idea whether they're good guys or not, but they have so many great reviews... it seems they really work hard to provide their clients with a top-end massage as hoped for.
My point of view is informed because another provider, whom I'm friendly with, had this done to him... the client paid him via Paypal, and then once he left, filed a chargeback, leaving the provider with nothing.
What is the provider to do? They feel totally powerless, and worse than the loss of income is the disrespect and feeling of being used and made to feel worthless. 
I can understand how in such a position, the provider writes a note like Froy did, trying to maintain some perception of power in the situation. Let's be honest: They're not going to small claims court given too many questions could likely be asked about the services, etc., but they were taken advantage of and made to feel small, and so they responded in the heat of the situation as best as they could.
I'm assuming, based on the recipient's response here, that they mistook which client used the Paypal, so that's on them.
But I don't see this as an extortion effort, and if they were the type, they'd have many more negative comments here and on Rentmasseur from others who would find them to be shady characters. 
I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, outside of getting their clients mixed up.
That said, I always pay cash.....

It would be great if the liars can be exposed on this forum. 

Alex is my regular go to guy. Highly recommend!
 

I don’t ask never money in advance. Only the uber. But a lot clients they don’t send pics, they text us with google numbers… And a lot scams text us every day. We need to protect ourself. I understand the client side but the escort side is that. 
u don’t need send the money before. Just order his uber. Simple is more safe for both.
i believe is more safe bc we never know if we are going to meet a crazy guy. I prefer that he order my uber bc if something happens with me after the police can track who ordered my uber.

I just saw Jose tonight and for sugaring. What an amazing manscaper— totally thorough and paid attention to details. I wasn’t sure if I was going to get more than what I came in for but after some “pushing and pulling” and checking to see who’d make the move, he did, on my way out. I will def come back for the massage as I feel we have unfinished business. I’ll also be going to him for manscaping needs going forward because it was such an amazing deal and experience. 

Maybe, but i don't think it'd go as far as suggested. I could see it maybe screening initial inquiries if a provider so chooses. But if i was a provider, i personally would still want to have viable client candidates given to me by the AI and give the final ok on which one i take and when for myself. I just would want it to weed out time wasters or incompatible clients. I wouldn't want it accepting meets and booking my calendar for me.
As someone who's tried implementing AI into my job and found a lot of it's limitations and where it falls short of the over hype/marketing. There's things it's just not ready for yet and it still needs lots of hand-holding and double checking it's work. AI/LLMs (Large Language Models) despite all the marketing, are not sentient, aren't aware of what they say to you, will spit out incorrect information confidently, and AI agents have done things like accidentally delete a users hard drive and other dumb stuff.
When it comes to reply delays. I kind of see it like when people text you and don't get a response, so then they call you thinking that will make you pick up and it's like, if I'm not available to reply to a text I'm also not available to answer a call haha. But like in the scenario a provider is busy working and can't give the final ok to a meet the AI setup and passed along. There's still going to be a delay till the provider gets back to their computer/phone or whatever to give the final ok. Both clients and providers really need to just accept that people aren't staring at their inbox or obligated to be reachable 24/7 and get over it, in my opinion 😆.
Another big issue AI use in this raises is discretion/privacy. Unless the provider is using their own self hosted implementation of an open source AI. Things like ChatGPT are logging everything you input to it and sending it home to OpenAI for further training model use (some AI platforms claim to let you opt out of this, but do they really with how this space currently has zero regulation, no one actually knows).
Things you put into ChatGPT are held in record and can be used against you in court for example. And in places where what we all engage in here isn't exactly legal, it'd be very not smart to use AIs in this way unless you setup a private one. Which the average person wouldn't know how to do and would just default to ChatGPT.
We already can't even get everyone who does this to use encrypted messaging apps like Signal as is 🤣

The key is to choose well and develop a way of asking that is simultaneously respectful and honest. Assuming often leads to disappointment, and making coded references may backfire on you, because codes can be misinterpreted. Worse still, if you ask aggressively or make demands, you will just come off as arrogant or entitled and get blocked. I try not to ask questions--even though I often end up doing so. I find it's much, much better to say what I like--again, respectfully and honestly--and see what the response is. If the response is negative--"I don't do that" or "No, I only do such-and-such"--then you have your answer. Thank him for his time and wish him the best. But if the response is positive--as it often is, if you've chosen well--then all you have to do is ask what the rate is and the when-and-where.
Remember the guy you're chatting with is a human being. It's about the chemistry between two people, and he wants your interaction with him to be a positive experience just as much as you do, maybe more.

My review is now up on RentMasseur:
 
Gabrieluk - Male Masseur, Gay massage in Manhattan, NY | RentMasseur
RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur Gabrieluk in Manhattan, NY offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue.  

Yeah… Sometimes is hard to believe. When I was there I was always scared to meet someone. I think if u are young and u like drugs and fun, really just care with only money london is the place. Now if u looking to meet nice guys for a nice time together London is not the place.  
And I asked for a few escorts and they confirmed this to me…  If u don’t do drugs there u don’t make money. 
When I was there I was basically just meeting Americans or Canadian. And they always said to me “you look clean, you look normal” bc they had bad experiences with other guys there.

I also had an amazing massage from Gabriel--mine was on Sunday. I will post a review on RentMasseur later this week. He is definitely a treasure.

https://rentmasseur.com/Gabrieluk

I had a fantastic massage from Gabriel today. He is a certified masseur with mad skills. I opted for a 90-minute massage and it was one of the best massages I've ever had. On top of that, he is incredibly handsome and a lovely young man. I left very happy. 

Any recent experiences? 

Any recent experiences with Gabriel? I have to say that his photos and reviews have me tempted.

I just met him again. Every time it gets better than the previous one. He’s truly spectacular. Good soul, great vibes, wonderful skills and truly transcendent experience. 

Listen I love this group, you guys are amazing, but please do not share my PRIVATE MESSAGES with masseurs you meet. A few months ago, I met a regular client who said to me "did you post something on this forum that was negative?" I said what are you talking about. He said he met a client who SHOWED HIM MY RESPONSE to a message about his work. I was shocked. I said " don't have clue and if it was negative then why am I here?" Please be careful with what is shared here. Private messages should remain so. No mad just concerned.
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Totally agree with @WestGuy and @Redwine56 about Blessings.
Here's another masseur with a great butt:
Sebaseslo - Male Massage & Bodywork in Manhattan, NY | RentMasseur
RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur Sebaseslo in Manhattan, NY offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue.  

+1 on Blessings. Amazing body all around. And a very sweet and caring guy.
Blessings - Male Massage & Bodywork in Manhattan, NY | RentMasseur
RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur Blessings in Manhattan, NY offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic...  

I don't see one of our favorites listed in this thread - BLESSINGS.  Every part of that masseur's beautiful body is remarkable.  I ask one of my fellow posters to include the link.  Thanks.

It would be great if the liars can be exposed on this forum.