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Not saying your verbose, I just like that cool swirly eyes emoji…it should be changed to “OMG” or WOW. But yeah damn, that’s crazy!! I never knew you could get triple vaccines like that. Idk if I would go to that level, but certainly seems interesting. I only got the 1 Johnson and Johnson. Plus the flu and TDap (not long ago, people on the forum were attacking me because I was saying getting vaccinated should be a personal decision). I wasn’t trying to play anti-vaxx, I was just giving an opinion on the COVID vaccine at its early stages. But…my doctor talked me into getting 3 vaccines in one day, and then the COVID vaccine a few weeks later. I was fine, but the COVID vaccine did make me run hot the next morning. As to the original topic: I understand your concerns. And you have every right to ask, but like @Shawn Monroe said, you can’t technically put the blame on the provider moreso than yourself. Even though I don’t think you’d be “at fault” like he put it (not dissing him by any means lol)…I think the fault probably would lie with the effectiveness of the vaccines moreso, and your decision to see them “often”, knowing their risk and ineligibility, whether you frequented the golf resort frequented by unvaccinated Trump supporters or a sex worker who probably is on Prep or HIV antivirals and been vaccinated (because there is a correlation that HIV drugs do lessen the risk or COVID transmission).

Re: the Gypsy life, it is hard. I live a mix of the Gypsy life and home life. Somewhat a hybrid. I’ll be gone sometimes a week, to upwards of a couple months. But the travel life is hard on the “soul” after a few weeks. With traveling, it’s hard to get things “done”. All I can do when traveling is: see clients, shop, watch TV at the hotel, and gym. Meanwhile; there’s plants at home needing maintenance, mail to be opened and packages waiting for delivery. Friends I need to catch up with. I’ve mastered being able to maintain a good diet and exercise routine when traveling, but the constant going out to eat can do a number on my digestive system lol. But that’s why some days I’ll get a air bnb or hotel with a kitchen, so I get a few meals from a grocery store that usually WON’T make me sick.

I have to confess: I’ve never worked or been to New York City before lol. This is from a guy who’s been to all 48 main states except Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont. And New York State and the general northeast is still a bit uncharted to me (though I’m excited to try Buffalo this month). What is shitty about Brooklyn? From a base observation: it seems like it was once maybe a “thuggish” area of NYC (based on hip hop lyrics lol), but seems to have become the next Manhattan now?

Good historical notation! And I’ll just play Devil’s advocate: I understand there a certain amount of inquiry or potential time waste involved when dealing with merchants. Even now, I try not to waste business’s time, but I may walk away from a business I inquired about. It’s a hard (yet conveniently easy) world out here for customers: there’s choices and options on every corner, money is unpredictable, there’s fear, there’s reluctance, you want the best service for your money…it’s hard out there. But: we as sex workers give out SOOOOO much free info beforehand. We shouldn’t be made to feel like we have to high pressure sell a client into keeping an appointment that HE reached out to arrange. We’re not going around calling them, they’re calling us. Which means: by the time they reach out to us, they should have done enough research to feel content with following thru (except lack of rates and DETAILED rate structure in our ads, which are the biggest threat to the client/escort initiation right now): eliminating any doubts. Problem is: many of these guys don’t take the time to read our ads and get the necessary info. They look at pictures, and then click the number. As if it’s supposed to be that simple.

Actually not. Because I’ve not done that for the duration of the past year, and MoFos still come with the constant bull shit. I’ve been pushed to a level where I have no choice but to cut back. Why am I going to sit here and argue with a client who seems to actually believe that we didn’t have any plans or intent to meet (referring to the ones who fail to show up on the day requested), while he gets to still have free access to my photos? Absolutely not. I refuse. It defeats the purpose of being a sex worker. I might as well just be posting on Adam4Adam with the sea of dicks and asses. (And as a matter of fact, I advertise as a pro there, but I long ago stopped posting nude pics publicly. It’s all private now and I only unlock if I see they’re serious) I’m tired of catering to people who have no respect or consideration for the content I put out. If they aren’t booking appointments, then they aren’t entitled to free samples.

So true… And because of that I feel it’s time draw away from, yet also imitate apps like Grindr: no you don’t get full nudes laid out. You have to ask and request. But instead of just handing them out freely, I’ll only be doing that for clients with confirmed appointments.

Yah but your attorney and accountant isn’t showing you nude pictures of themselves though, are they? I can do all of that, without necessarily giving away free material in the process. That’s what I feel like I’m doing. Today was the straw that broke the 🐫 back. To see this sorry excuse for a RentMen client (who I’ve actually met before but way back in December because he’s been too much of a prick to follow thru) have the audacity to send me a photo of a wad of money after he NO SHOWED for the idk how many attempted times, when I told him I wasn’t going to be accepting anymore bookings from him. After he lied about being free all day, and then telling me he’d call on his “lunch break” (and never did, just like the day before and then with another excuse). And then another client, having the audacity to gaslight me into believing we never had an appointment…when I sat there and specifically contacted him repeatedly last Sunday, and he didn’t respond the night before when I asked him to confirm nor the whole day Sunday?? (Also lied and said he would be free all day, and wasn’t). This is after he reached out to me, and seemed eager to see me when I came to town. I have no other options. The only way to level up with these guys, is to start cutting back. They don’t appreciate it, so I’m not motivated to keep sharing my talent and art for some ass wipe who can’t even keep a simple word.

A little play on words, but not necessarily one that's been averted with a signature from the president 😄 But I have decided to remove all nude pics from my RentMasseur private gallery, and move all my nudes on RentMen to FULL private. I’ve toyed with this before previously, but this time I’m leaving it for good. I feel I’ve done enough, too much free advertising to people out here who have 0 respect for my time or craft. I have been generous long enough, sharing my photos with potential “suitors”, but the time for that ends today. I’m not doing it anymore. If someone wants to see my private pics, they will need to: 1. Have an appointment, and/or 2. Pay a deposit I’m just not doing it anymore. I don't feel people out here aren't considerate about the work and advertising that goes into being on the site. I’m only dealing with clients on a very “reserved” basis going forward. As in, those who are reserved will receive the material. The rest don’t appreciate it and I’m tired of having my time wasted and disrespected week, after week. Day after day. Over and over again.

The latter you're talking about, if someone having sex in exchange for drugs...that's not a provider. That's what we call in America: a crack ho. Not that is funny or meant to be demeaning, but it's a serious issue and a part of the negative stigma often given to sex workers in movies and crime sitcoms. So, don't even go there.

Excellent point: I was actually just there last month and earlier this year: I actually even thought about moving myself. But, even though I like New Mexico, something is missing there for me. I feel after awhile, I could get a bit “fatigued” of hatch green Chile and long droughts…not to mention despite the wealthy population, crime in Albuquerque and Santa Fe is unusually common for such an “enchanted” state (on my last visit, some lady grabbed my passenger side door handle and tried to get in…at night. Coulda been a mixup but…this was at a hotel off Cerillos, and she literally ran to my car off the street. But.. that’s by no means criticizing it because I’ve really grown to like Santa Fe. I used to like Albuquerque more, but I’ve found it’s gotten so slow over the years, I find myself skipping it in favor of Santa Fe. As for client base: you would think that by staying in an area for awhile, the client “base” would grow…but it’s not that way. If anything, the longer I stay in Kansas City and Saint Louis, the smaller the pool gets. I just had to tell one guy in KC that I’ve met before (back in December, because he’s full of shit and misses me every time) to fuck off today because he refuses, refuses….. REFUSES to follow my instructions given over 1 billion times, that 1. I am not up at 7 a.m. taking calls, and he needs to put in some sort of planning…not calling me out the blue asking if I’m available “now”, because I don’t operate like that. Then when I reach back out to him, he plays busy or doesn’t respond. Then had the audacity to send me a picture of a bunch of money he’s holding…as if that means half a fuck about how serious a client he is 🤦🏽‍♂️ I end up having to tell people this here over and over again, and at this point I’m just like…fuck whatever base I have left because, this shit is not worth dealing with out here. They want to contact at the last minute, but then don’t want to come or be available during the time I tell them I’m open.

lol I think Missouri falls into that category as well. “Midwest” is a relatively new term: back in the 1500s you either had the South, the North, and Mexico lol. Later, western came about. But not sure how much later Midwest came into play. Washington DC and Saint Louis are also one of those weird “sorta north, sorta south” cities…as you can see from the map. I find places like that you never know what you’re going to get. Like with DC: it’s definitely north considered to Atlanta or Florida. But it still has a bit of a southern “vibe” to it. Not to mention, the convenience of having the nations Capitol there, seems to coincide moreso with it being southern…considering Virginia was a big trade state back in the day 😒 Why did you leave Texas and Oklahoma anyhow?

Where in the Midwest did you live? I appreciate some aspects of it, but I’m just so tired of the bullshit. Like I can be in Indy, Chicago, Milwaukee, Nashville, or even Dallas all within a day. And have done it (driving). But it’s still far. And being it’s not places I can just go for a day and turn back around like some cities in Florida were, I have to pack up and plan to stay longer if needed.

Asking from a point of providers particularly, but others can chime. I feel I am just so ready to leave my current market for good. Now that the seasons are changing, I’m not even looking forward to spending another winter in this part of the country (I guess would be considered lower Midwest/heartland: In my case, I am so over and tired of my current state and the surrounding locations…I can’t even think about anything else but a way to relocate. Last month I went out to Arizona for a week, and even though it isn’t perfect (the heat, congestion, and biz in Phoenix wasn’t great this time around but I had enough bookings to make it worthwhile) I just felt so much different and relieved to see different things; Palm Trees, mountains, more diverse people and Latino (sadly I didn’t get to hookup with any but I had 1 or 2 who were supposed to come by). Meanwhile, in the boring Missouri Midwest…I am fed up and over this shit. Even though I’m “close” to many major cities and International airports, in reality things are still much further than say; Phoenix and Tucson, Miami to Fort Lauderdale, or the Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas triangle. I’m logging mega miles going between relatively medium sized cities, and I’m not even getting to go as often. Towns like Omaha, Des Moines are good for a couple days, but then you go thru the client base within those 2 days. And it’s too far to travel to every week. Also the problem with the Midwest, and specially Missouri: Once you leave Saint Louis and Kansas City (and very rarely Springfield), there’s no opportunity for A) Gay socializing and B) Male sex work. Like in Illinois: once outside of Chicago, it is surrounded by some very conservative locations where there’s little or no opportunity to make connections. I was even exploring Northwest Arkansas area which is just 3-4 hours south of Kansas City. I’ve gone about 3-4 times, and now I’m just over it. I get hits but then they don’t follow thru. I’ve met 2 or 3 good clients, but places like Eureka Springs which is supposedly the “ San Francisco of the Midwest/ozarks” whatever…there’s like 5 guys on Adam4Adam there, and it doesn’t even register on the RentMen and Rentmasseur as a City to advertise in. And some potential clients in Arkansas are pretty much flakes, like this guy who just completely stood me up, despite having numerous apparent good reviews by other providers (except for one). I tried leaving him a bad review, but I guess RentMen changed it to where providers can’t leave reviews for clients now: https://rent.men/Shanestur I just don’t get these people. Some of the clients in the Midwest even come off a little bigoted, like they just don’t give a fuck about me or my business. Like I have to argue with some of them about how I do business…like keeping appointments that they claim they never made, and me collecting a deposit. Well, you’d collect a deposit too if the first time you came to Kansas City, someone played for a whole week like they were going to come see you, right down to giving YOUR hotel name and room, and they go mysteriously silent. Or 2 clients contacted you around noon in Saint Louis, and you went and spent $90 on a hotel, and neither one showed up. And you didn’t need the hotel otherwise, nor did you ever get your money back because it was prepaid via Priceline. Wouldn’t you want to get a deposit? My point exactly. It just really gets on my nerves dealing with these guys. I’m so over the Midwest, and just looking for a new city, in a new state, and not HAVE to travel so far to other cities because the one I’m in, is so bland of opportunity.

I’m skeptical. Part of me feels like there isn’t really a push for a “cure “ because so much revolves around HIV care and therapy. And how do we know that “cure” is not just another “undetectable” situation? I’d wear condoms for the simple fact some guys just don’t take care. I recall one client had an ENORMOUS amount and size of HPV cancer lumps around his ass. I wouldn’t even fuck him WITH a condom. I used my dildo, and he wasn’t properly cleaned out. I had to quit. He did admit that he was going in for cancer treatment for it, but to have 1 more last fuck prior I think should have stuck with oral.

Between Los Angeles and Chicago, I find the 2 cities have the highest prices for gas consistently. However that sign is a bit odd considering regular is only 4 cents more than premium. Many times in cities like that, premium runs 50 to 90 cents higher. On the occasion that I do drive to either one, I usually prefer to fill up in the state or outlying area before getting into the area. And once I’m on my way out, just throw in a $20 until I get to some reasonable prices. Here in Missouri, it’s hovering around $2.69-2.79…but keeps going up and down. Up and down 20-30 cents every couple of weeks. Considering my commute back and forth to the city is so far, I end up spending as much as if I were paying LA prices 😒

The “PnP” aka party and play scene (Chemsex just sounds like some sort of bioengineered sex lol) is big in just about every major gay scene in America too.

Update: All is well. My client buddy and I discussed and moved on from what happened. He’s definitely learned from the mistake and cut back all together. I’m just glad things weren’t worse. I didn’t recognize he was spiraling, but I did notice he was consuming quite a bit. He had his first small glass of wine today, just over dinner together. So all is well.

I’m just trying to catch your drift, but you ask if being on party drugs is necessary to secure longer appointments? Definitely not. I personally have come across many clients who are open to longer sessions, without having to add party favs to the mix, on both sides. And even if they’re doing it, doesn’t mean I have to do it. Though…I’ve become less inclined to say, “I don’t care if you party, but I don’t” because that’s how weird situations arise. And I just don’t want to be a part of someone’s bad trip.

Brilliant. I’ll dedicate you a song

Well that’s certainly different than your previous post about his issues. And yeah if he’s a junky, that’s more of an issue deeper than you can really take blame for. At the same time, giving him tidbits of info and mulling over it, just isn’t going to do much justice. I don’t mess with or trust druggy guys under any circumstances. Even when it comes to sex, you might not be getting the real thing. I had sex with a fellow escort earlier this year, he was always aggressively horny and wanting me to fuck him. When we finally fucked, he wouldn’t return messages for a round 2. Couple weeks ago, my suspicions were confirmed: he’s in a relationship. Seems he’d fuck when he’s high, and probably not even remember it.

Makes sense. But part of the difference is like you said, YOU would head OUT immediately. Versus, they would want to come to you immediately. I even noticed my barber get frustrated once, because he generally takes his calls in the morning, yet someone he knows called in the mid afternoon….when he’s usually ready to go. However, I want to keep other industries out of this. I hate it when people are like, “but McDonald’s takes people at the last minute, stop complaining” (I can hear it now) 🤦🏽‍♂️ My thing isn’t even so much last minute, it’s how some of these guys are very inflexible AND, AND……AND want it last minute. I could see if someone is like; “yeah I can either host at my place or go to you. I don’t have anything else going on at the moment. Let me know what appointment time you can do, and I’ll figure out a way accommodate.” But some guys expect me to move mountains, when they not even hopping over puddles. And I hate when someone is like, “I don’t feel comfortable sending Deposit to someone I don’t know”. But yet they want me to feel 100% comfortable with someone who I don’t even know what they look like, and, AND…. AND spend my own money to accommodate a location for them. And sure, they probably expect a person to already have an incall location set up, but when I’m visiting someplace: if I don’t get any booking requests, I will more often than not find alternative staying arrangements. Nothing worse than paying $100-150 nightly for a hotel (which may or may not include deposit) with no bookings on the roster. And then someone wants to contact at 2:45, to come to me…when checkout was noon. Brilliant.

...when I write a 1 word thread post, it's usually a lot more to it lol. But my thing is, how do people expect to get appointments with a provider without doing much in the way of ad reading/coordinated reaching out? Not trying to be a bitch but, I had to explain this to someone earlier today. I'm telling this person, "you're visiting, I'm visiting. We're both visiting this area". I always tell people, if you have a very limited time window, these things have to be planned in advance. I waited around all day Saturday and all day Sunday, and even all morning Monday...no bookings, so I decided to go home. Then, this person texts me after I decided I was going to commute the opposite direction of where he was. I could have accommodated, but this person was trying to get me to be ready 15-30 minutes earlier than I needed, because he had plans. Well, I have plans just like they have plans. And he should have made them sooner. Half the time I don't understand what they're thinking when they make these requests. I spell it out pretty plain in my ad that I need advanced notice. Granted, he mentioned the site doesn't give much "user friendly" usage, but he also claims he's hired for many years. I reached out to RentMasseur and asked them to consider updating their site. Seems 99% of people are breezing thru my ad and going straight to the phone number, instead of wanting to know how to arrange with someone individually. Question for lookers: would YOU be available NOW to host or come to me, if I just randomly messaged you out the blue with 0 planning? I know the answer is going be no...but that's the point. Some of these people don't understand, if you can't do it, don't expect me to. It doesn't make any difference who has a paying ad or not. Basic consideration is required on both sides. All the "come over right now" stuff is very 90s and early 2000s. People come on these sites with the mentality of cruising for gay sex at a park. ESPECIALLY in the age of COVID. Most every business out here is appointment only. Even Walmart tire and lube is by appointment only now lol. How these guys not know this? Or just playing dumb and getting on my nerves 🤦🏽‍♂️

Well do you mind if I give YOU some "unsolicited" feedback? lol It sounds like you have good intent, but you may be coming off like a jerk about it. Just by calling him a "slick fucker" in itself, demeans the sex worker. What was this suggestion really for? Was it to say you didn't have a good time, or was it to better him and see him be a bit more successful? Because if it's the latter, you accomplished your goal. He probably assessed the advice, though unwarranted, and is trying to take it in stride versus taking it as a jab. And if you gave him some initial feedback, why follow up with more feedback later? And then you're going to go and tell/ask your "regular" provider about him? What more do you want? This reminds me of a client I met the other week. He was polite and fun, but he kind of went on and on about other escorts/massage guys he's hired. Including his partner, which he wanted to take a picture of me and send to him (I countered and gave him my biz card instead). I appreciate the comfort they find to talk about it, but at the end of the day: you don't really know this guy. You're not his father, or business manager, or advertising consultant. You're a client. If you're not trying to hire him again, don't berate him with advice...otherwise it'll just come off pushy and unappreciative. I think clients need to be mindful not to fall into a habit of being gossipy. It's okay to share and discuss a provider you're interested in, but some people really take it to a whole other level. Like one client in Kansas City annoyed me by talking about 3 other providers, and I've not even met him! And he's already not kept 1 of his appointment requests. Then he later tells me of an escort/porn guy who came to town, saying that he came by but didn't meet him. I didn't even bother responding to it, I just skirted the comment all together. This person who was in town had nothing to do with me or me meeting him, so why bring it up? Stuff like that makes me not only stop responding, but all together blocking them and putting on the DND list. When someone starts purposely and willfully wasting my time, they lose their place as clients, and simply become nuisances.

Let's create 2 threads in one: Who Pays For Parking when the escort travels out? I ask especially as I do a ton of outcalls. I also don't host much at home and prefer outcalls. However, I do cringe every so often (used to be a common occurrence in Orlando and Denver) I get invited to big posh hotel. Yes, I'm excited to see the architechture, and it's likely going to be a good booking. But some hotels and even residences (as I found out in kansas city the other day) obligate you to pay for parking. I've seen some upwards of $28 even for a couple of hours (Opry Nashville for example). Sure, I can commute to the client...but when it comes to parking I've resolved to often ask the client to lend me their key card, and I'll pull around to the lobby and give it back. One client in Chicago couple months ago, the overnight garage parking was like $50, and he had no problem validating the ticket on his room. Meanwhile, I had a client the other day who I feel maybe got upset at me...because as I was leaving the apartment building garage which he instructed me to park in, I couldn't get out unless I paid $5. Apparently, "validating" the ticket didn't make it free, it just made it $5 instead of $4 an hour. I called him a couple of times informing of it. And it was card only. He's like, "you don't have a credit card?" I know it was only $5, but I wasn't prepared to pay that...considering I wasn't aware that was the case. I would have more gladly picked up street parking if I needed to. $5 is a lot, considering the current gas prices have me putting in $25-30 and not getting but a few drops of the 91 my cars run on, and I live a good 125 mile round trip from downtown and do that commute 2-3 times a week. It would be 7 times a week, but half these fuckers don't give enough notice, or aren't serious about shit to begin with.

I'm not much of an uber guy but...this sounds pretentious. Your boss may expect you to get to the job site, but many companies once hired...will fly their already well-paid employees around, and pay their hotels and meal allowances. Those things come out of the escort's pocket so...yeah.