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And then on top of everything else, comes the added work of transportation when visiting those cities. What you don’t spend on parking and $6 a gallon gas, you spend on Uber and transit. I spent $22 to park in a garage for 4 hours in downtown San Fran. That’s a nightly charge at a hotel. And my friends almost paid $100 to get from Castro to Berkeley in a Lyft, but I offered to take them out of my way because that woulda been ridiculous. Then there’s the excess traffic that often surrounds the bigger cities. It’s not unusual to lose 2-4 hours trying to get into/out of the whole metro area if traveling across during the peak of the day. I think that also has an indirect effect on clients being able to coordinate bookings.

To an extent that’s true, but I’ve also come across “the money” outside of the main cities. Of course, I don’t necessarily mean “small market” cities. Those aren’t always great either because they don’t really get the traffic and visibility or can be overly conservative. I refer more to places that have their own economy not in the shadows of bigger cities. Texas is like that: there’s Amarillo and El Paso, but they are quiet because Dallas and Houston is where every escort and their grandmother is posted up. But it’s harder to do biz when there’s 50 million other guys trying to reach the same couple of clients 🤦🏽‍♂️ I find places that stand on their own, far from the crowded bigger cities seem to be more relaxed and productive to me. What I’m also noticing is: the downtowns of big cities seem to be where the “career minded gays” live and play, but they tend to go on Grindr and look for someone to fuck for free type of meets. That’s why I don’t spend extra getting a hotel downtown or gay neighborhood because I end up paying more and not getting any extra bookings. I did that in Seattle, only because I did have 1 client downtown, but it was more of a vacation day for myself and the hotel was a boutique type I wanted to check out. Even in my local market of Kansas City: All the guys advertise in Kansas City, but most of the action comes from a business park suburb outside of town. It’s cheaper than KC proper and more clients either reside there or are in town on business. I was in San Francisco 5 days all weekend, and even though I got enough bookings, I was starting to get a little annoyed. I couldn’t stay at the hotels I wanted to because they were too expensive (my friend spent $1,200 at a residence inn to stay 5 days in an adjacent neighborhood not even in San Francisco proper). Then, I was only getting like 1 booking request a day. I been in smaller cities this year, and my phone was blowing up. And on my last night there, someone called me just after 11 pm. I was available ALL day for a client. I went to my car for 5 minutes to grab something, never seen the missed call until this morning 🤦🏽‍♂️ Guy didn’t bother to text/leave voicemail nothing. I got in touch the following morning and of course, he wasn’t available.

By biggest, I refer to those with oft mentioned names: Chicago, Los Angeles, San Fran, DC, Atlanta, NYC. Having traveled over 10 years and seen most of all the “big player” cities, sometimes I can’t understand why those are the ones always most popular with providers. To me, it often means more choices potential clients (aka competition) and paying more to be there. Often times, when I do the math and add it all up: I can usually do the same amount or more in a less popular town. However, those areas may be more prone to “dry up” intermittently versus the steady traffic of the bigger markets. At the same time, with so many new ads popping up in the bigger areas…there’s not a whole lot of opportunity to stand out. And with standing out, there may be something I want to do that’s different than what the locals are used to. But if lots of clients can just easily reach lots of other providers, that’s a false sense of opportunity to me. Nowadays, I only do big cities when I have family or friends also in that town. Otherwise it turns into a lot of waiting around for calls being bored. And the worst is the hotels. Unless you’re paying $200-250 a night, many of the “affordable” (which right now seems to be like $80-100) hotels in bigger cities tend to be either way out of the city or in a dingy area of town. And to me, few to non hotels are really so nice that I’m going to drop an entire appointment’s worth for a night… Even in my home state of Florida, I’ve long avoided Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and now even Orlando to an extent since I moved, because everybody is there. Meanwhile, the smaller towns have gotten me some of the best clients. But accordingly, it requires a bit of commuting to reach them.

My bad. Initially I did think you were just talking generally, but when you said “you”…it sounded like it referred to me in the context. What exactly was in your reply that you sent? Sometimes people send vague messages that I often filter out. No introduction, or something that doesn’t sound like there was attention paid to my ad. It’s crazy how many messages I get that are just very vague, and I have to “work” them. I’m getting to a point that I don’t want to do that anymore, hence why having a pre-deposit upfront. The average new inquiry takes an hour of my time. Whether they book or not. Considering I don’t sell big “cases” like a lawyer at hundreds and thousands of dollars, I can’t keep offering free consultations… I can’t speak for anyone, but I also think some “advertisers” may not necessarily be escorting to clients like that. It’s possible they may just be only wanting to drive traffic to their brand. Or they probably only see “fans”. Which is actually the route I’ve been steering towards. I would, if I was able to accommodated. However I wouldn’t want it to become regularly expected That’s a good way of going about it. Sometimes though, I’m reluctant to “press” my schedule and availability too much though. I feel if they can’t make room for me when I’m already visiting, they might not come around the 2nd visit or “return route” either. Reason I say is because, clients may sometimes cancel a session and be like, “let’s meet next time you’re in town”. I’ve heard that more than I cared to at times. I have to remind them that, I don’t always get to their area often, and if waiting for “next time I’m in town” that could be 5-10 years from now…because there’s some cities I’ve not been to in that long (Houston, Boston, Minneapolis). My philosophy is sometimes: if I’m in town, and he’s in town…and he can’t meet: it tells me he doesn’t view me much important, or that he’s preoccupied playing the field with other escorts/grinderites (similar to how a client in other thread said he “seen someone else in Portland”. And if it’s who I think it is: that client has been blacklisted for wasting my time, considering I sent my location when he asked, only to be told “a friend just showed up*) I also find myself getting annoyed chasing client’s unavailability…I had that unfortunate situation with a guy in one of my previous travel cities. I wanted to see him because he sent a couple pics and was a sexy potential client. We’d been in contact a few weeks before I even started my tour. But I couldn’t make it the initial days we discussed because a snow storm was blocking travel on my route, and this winter alone: I’ve already had a couple of trips where I was almost stranded in the middle of nowhere when going to my destination due to ice/snow. So I asked to move it. 1st time he’s like, “I’m going to LA”. 2nd time it was like, “my ass has been fucked enough I need a break”. But…we were scheduled mainly for a MASSAGE. Which is what annoyed me. If the client has a pretty plausible reason why he can’t meet and doesn’t on short notice, or I left town before we could connect: I will reach out to connect. But, guys who cancel last minute or can’t seem to come around when I’m there: I don’t like to give extra openings to. Because guess what: when they come to town and I can’t meet, do I ever get 2nd chances? Nope. I never hear from them again. I had a guy do that to me, and it really offended me. He came to Kansas City last minute “with a friend” and was trying to meet me at some odd time of night with short notice. I actually met him before in another city. I couldn’t until the next day, and then he’s like: “I’m flying out tomorrow, just here for the night”. Then when I came to his city later, he couldn’t even be bothered. I had to write off a lot of clients lately and I hate to do that, because I do believe in “next time”. But many clients cancel or flake at the wrong time, and once that happens, it’s hard for me to want to extend another offer to them.

While I’m at it: might as throw this in here. I guess 24 hours is a bit longer than seconds…

I’m just trying to help you out. You came with a question, and now you’re insulting me (unless by “you” you meant “you”) That’s a bad move and if your approach to said provider was the same…I can see why you wouldn’t get an immediate response. All I’m trying to say is, you (you as in, everyone else too) have to use common sense when arranging things. You automatically assume #1, that this person hasn’t already made Memorial Day plans and #2 assume he’s going to even be in Atlanta during Memorial Day (when most people in Atlanta probably go to somewhere with a beach to escape the heat). And I would ask for a deposit because if someone expects to see me 2 months down the line, that means I have to modify and/or close a portion of my schedule to accommodate said request which means not taking other plans. So what if the client doesn’t pan out, then what? I think what happens: some clients take the “normalcy” out of contacting escorts. We are people too. You don’t just call your Uncle and be like, “hey I wanna see you for Memorial Day” and expect a yes without a chance of “I already have plans” unless it’s something that was already previously discussed tentatively. I don’t know what your approach was, but something like, “I’m coming to Atlanta Memorial Day weekend, will you be taking bookings then” may be better than going into it with “I want to book you for Memorial Day weekend”. I’m not saying there’s anything problematic with same day appointments. Or booking out in advance. I’ve been on tour now for a month, and almost all of my bookings were scheduled a day or 2 prior to the meet. Some may have been a few days, but not longer than a week. I can probably count on 2 hands 🙌🏾 the number of same day bookings I’ve taken. I was happy to accommodate them when I could, but it wasn’t my usual routine.

I’m surprised you don’t. Same day appointments tend to require a provider to stop what he/she is doing and see someone who previously: was not expected just hours earlier. Also, same day appointment clients tend to be less flexible (the ones who want to squeeze in a session between the 12 and 3 lunch hour). You end up often times left bending over backwards to accommodate someone, who may end up being a flake or no show in the process. Not cool. I take same day visits when traveling, but when at home base: I stopped doing them awhile ago. It’s like: if you have a narrow window of time to meet, have the courtesy to give a little notice. Like I said before: would a client be available “right away” if I called them for a booking? Usually not. So the easier method is to just schedule stuff ahead of time or not on the same day. And if someone wanted to book me for Memorial Day couple months ahead of time, I’d probably want to secure a deposit…

I like how you said that. It’s what I’ve been considering. Especially since I feel the industry has become so grinderized. Some reach out with an idea that we’re available now, everywhere. And if you’re not, they move on to the next. That’s not what I want. Eventually in life, especially at this point in my life: I just don’t have time to be on a constant hustle and trying to “work” every text that comes thru my phone. Maybe there’s other user-friendly guys out there, but guess what? I’ve been the user friendly guy, and am burnt out. A person can only take so much over a course of time. Right now I’ve left my number up because I don’t want to miss potential bookings when traveling with a limited time window, but once I return to my home base, it’s likely coming down.

Well it’s unfortunate you felt that way. However, I had to do what I needed to do. I was in Seattle before Portland, and let several inquiries slide thru and arrange sessions without a deposit. Some panned out and others didn’t, but the ones that didn’t were an inconvenience and either ghosted or cancelled last minute.

Well, one thing I can say is: I’m starting to see the harsh reality of how hard it actually is to meet men willing to pay another man for **** (no shit after nearing 15 years??). I just was reminded of that because I spent 3 days and 2 nights in Portland, Oregon. I will post in another thread but I officially opinionate that as the #1 worst major City in America to try and escort in. This has been the 2nd time I’ve traveled there and gotten 0 clients. Rather: I hear from them, but they all flake. However, I had at least 3 guys willing to come to my hotel from the “G app”. Only one I actually met because he was an intriguingly hot, Irish looking dude who oddly reminded me of @Benjamin_Nicholas in some ways 😆 (hint, hint 😉 If I wanted to, I coulda had all 3 in the same night. Non of the “oh I’m not available right now/that late at night “ BS clients give me when trying to plan a session. It seems like many clients aren’t very flexible in their schedules, which sometimes creates problems trying to make things happen. When I’m available: they’re not available. When they are available, I have to drop and change what I’m doing to accommodate, else there’s a chance it won’t happen. The Irish looking guy hit me up hours earlier in the day, and we still managed to meet at 3 in the morning. Neither of us really wanted to meet that late, but we compromised. Meanwhile, the 1 seemingly real client (who’s now blacklisted) attempted to schedule a booking “now” but then cancelled moments later citing, “his friend showed up, and he doesn’t think he can get rid of him 🤦🏽‍♂️ But…meeting someone of Grindr was a last resort because it was end of my last night in town, and figured I’d might as well make use of the money I spent on the hotel room. Otherwise it’d of been a frustrating waste of money, sitting in a hotel in a city I really didn’t care to be in, with no bookings, when there’s plenty of other guys willing to hookup with me. Caveat is: they don’t be wanting to pay for it. I even tried to get 1 of the guys who seemed really eager to meet up with me to pay, he then got a nasty attitude, accused me of wasting his time and stopped texting me. Predictable. I wasn’t mad though, I was experimenting the reaction. Hell, clients do it to me all the time…Why can’t I bullshit someone from time to time. So…if the muppet who wanted to “accuse me” of being on Grindr ever reads this one day, maybe he can keep Grindr’s name out of his fucking mouth when it pertains to me unless he knows the specific reason behind it 😆

And I’ll add another thing: I’ve already cut down on a lot of my app use, but lately I’ve been feeling like retiring the app usage all together. I’m getting fatigued of meeting guys on them and things never going anywhere. Not that it has to evolve into relationship, but after month’s of use I have barely even gained a friend or FWB from it. And every time I meet someone from it, they’re on bullshit. Have some sort of complex, or all about sex, or in an open relationship but dabbling in and out. My general optimism for the gay scene lately is just not confident. I still believe location based apps have made things real challenging. It affects things even down to the escort realm.

Exactly. And what made me so irked was: this was a city I was visiting and i only logged on to see if i could find (or he could find me) a guy who talked to me at a bar earlier that night. The whole time I was in the area I didn't meet anyone off the App, as I was busy with bookings the whole time.

Heard this the other day from (will spare the details, but a now banished potential client lol) who thought he could try and make a point, and tell me he seen me on 1 of the apps (Grindr). I was quite annoyed because the way he said it insinuated that because I was on there, that somehow it meant he shouldn’t reimburse for my time. I found that to be a rather assumptive, and dismissive mentality. For one, it’s my personal business to decide what I’m doing on an app, and considering I may simply be using it to connect with others in a way that’s not a hookup. It’s almost giving me another reason to not be a part of the apps. Even though someone’s ignorance and stereotypical, narrow-minded views of what a gay social app can be used for doesn’t affect my purpose for it, it’s almost got me a little paranoid if clients are carrying this idea that seeing a provider on an app is also available for free hooking up. But I just want to clear the misconception: it has nothing to do with that. If I want to meet someone to socialize or connect intimately with and fill the downtime when I’m not having clients while I’m visiting a city, that’s my prerogative. To hell with someone thinking my value goes down just because of it. Just because one idiot can’t see beyond the purpose of hooking up doesn’t mean everyone operates in the same way.

That’s the thing: some of us DON’T stand it. It’s things like this that are the reason why I have to continually be innovative in deterring the nonsense. Hey good morning. I woke up feeling crappy. I’ve been hoping my stomach and head would settle before I reached out because I hate canceling as I know you rely on trust and your time is valuable. I’m still not doing great. Can we meet another time, possibly when you are back? I’m really sorry Really. When I’m back. In Seattle. 1,800 miles from home. And last time I was here was in 2011. Really? It all sounds nice and sappy, but this person asked me a whole bunch of questions the night before, and we agreed to meet that day, which used up my time and effort. All the while, I had a perfect 2 bedroom air bnb HOME to host clients in: nobody showed up, 2 flaked. It’s the reason I get angry with these people and with RentMen as a site. And clients in the bigger cities don’t like to pay deposits because they’re so afraid of being scammed (despite again, me with a full profile and them with nothing but a number). In reality it’s them who are scamming us. The only thing with taking my number down, is the timing right now might not be ideal because I’m actively on a tour. Idk if I can get people to book timely enough when I’m traveling. But the one place I will leave my number is adam4adam, because it’s always the flakes who never make it to the phone.

One thing for certain, dudes play a shit ton of games. I can’t say how many times I’ve met someone and everything was fine, and then afterwards they start acting weird for no reason. However in this case, it’s hard to tell. It does sound like a rude game to play, and if the person comes around again I wouldn’t entertain.

If I stay with this, I know I may miss miss the spontaneity of taking bookings…but I feel unless RentMen does something to mitigate the circumstances, I can’t continue going about things the same way. It’s almost like clients are having all the benefits at our expense, until they actually show up with funds: which out of 10, maybe only 2 will. There comes a point when something has to change. At this rate, there hasn’t been any real improvements when it comes down to how the sites screen to ensure we’re getting genuine inquiries. I feel like I’ve reverted back to my younger days of being in a really shitty sales job. If I’m paying a site every month to be on, plus paying for travel expenses, lodging (spent over $700 in hotels/air bnb this week alone visiting), I shouldn’t have to be constantly subjected to appointments falling thru at random, and getting nothing in return for it. There seems to be this disdain of the idea to get clients to leave any pay before the actual meeting. But that’s what some of us are doing all the time. I’m paying for an ad, paying for expenses related to the biz, all upfront and expecting to be able to make it back on the back end of it all. That’s not fair and it’s unbalanced. Clients have plenty info on us on the site, to make a decision and commit with. Meanwhile many of us have nothing to go off of on them. So on top of my expenses, I have to pay for screening services to ensure the person who contacted me at random is who they say they actually are. I’ve found out at times, they aren’t. And now I’m left with 4 cancelled appointments in the past couple days and multiple “fell thru” bookings on top of it. Just an absolute nightmare end to what has actually been a successful month 🤦🏽‍♂️ And I told RentMen, this is beginning to affect my deeper mental stability. I’m not going to take all the blame for something they aren’t taking the initiative to make better. I shouldn’t have to “figure out ways to handle it better”, they need to do the right thing and find ways to make it better for us.

I know I keep having to bring up similar type of discussions, but there’s still things I’ve suggested can be better, and they haven’t. Even though in some ways it’s better because there’s more inquiries, the overall clientele attitude and behavior right now is trash in most every city in America right now. At this point, I decided I have no choice but to remove my numbers from my ads and require clients to pay to contact me. I’ve tried doing things in different ways to make a difference, but nothing really seems to be fixing the issue of flakes and bullshitters because people are still able to get thru to me. It doesn’t matter if I get several clients in a week who show up, there’s still far too much nonsense and time waste going on each day, often multiple TIMES per day..to where I can almost not even benefit from the gains. In the past 2 days, I’ve dealt with something around 5-7 fake appointments/no shows or cancelled bookings. And that’s even with screening them and asking for deposits. And the problem is, why I need to stop them in their tracks is because some contact me and then give me an attitude as to why they don’t want to send a deposit to confirm. Well, I don’t need to hear that every other time I have a booking request. At this point, the only way clients will be able to arrange a session is to do so directly through my website which will require a deposit. It may result in less overall inquiries, but at this rate it seems the number of clients will remain the same. And everytime I meet a client who has reservations about sending a deposit, they always end up being difficult to work with. So, here’s go nothing: the stakes just got a little bit higher.

Bump this topic up, I want to mention a new city I’ve been posting out of: Seattle. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a pretty busy market and has been good to me, BUT: there’s a lot of bullshit here also from clients. I’ve already had to report several to Mr. Number for being no shows or just general flakes. Some I didn’t look up because I was busy or forgot to do so, and sure enough: they had a report or 2. Now I’m going to have to revert back to requiring everyone to pay a consultation deposit. It’s like I try to be nice, and give a little leeway, and the fucking idiots always find a way to make me go back to doing what I was before.

Wholey fuck dude, 14 times??? I can’t imagine you’re actually fully cumming each time. Unless you have some extreme super balls, but I won’t discount what you say. I’m curious how do you stick to non processed and artificial foods when traveling often, does that mean avoiding all fast food? Where can you find that each day. I’m annoyed that many fast food places seem to have moved away from healthy options during Covid: McDonald’s no longer has salads, KFC has taken off baked beans and green beans 😤 I’ve been finding better options at Safeway grocery stores when it comes to meals with healthy side items

lol, right. it’s not like it’s a “wrinkle remover”, it’s a scientifically crafted substance that actually blocks whatever it is (can’t think of what it’s called at the moment) that makes you not be able to stay hard. Sometimes it doesn’t always work though if the mind isn’t there. I know I was dancing semi nude at a club last year (my first time). For whatever reason I just could not rise to the occasion. I just wasn’t stimulated enough. But I didn’t have any issue when 2 guys crossed my path later 😏 However I think that was something different, that gives more of an extended release. The blue pill tends to have that more instant effect.

Wait, are you an provider? Or client? I take it based on your 1989 birthday…maybe an provider or a client in his “youth”? That said: The main tips I know that works is: exercise, diet (not dieting as in forgoing food but rather ensuring 2-4 meals a day), and hydration are key. Other satellite tips would be porn, rest and supplements/vitamins. I don’t personally take viagra or similar things because: you can’t take that stuff forever, or even everyday. I’ve tried it, and it works. But, there’s plenty of natural supplements out there that work just as well when combined with the above techniques. And they don’t leave you with a inconvenient boner or headrush and stuffy nose. And it’s also not necessary to cum for every encounter. Even when I have sex in my private life, I don’t feel a necessity to cum each time. There’s been times I’ve fucked/gotten sucked by some amazing guys (actually happened twice in the past couple weeks, and even yesterday lol) and didn’t want to cum. I really only cum if the person NEEDS me to cum; or if I feel I need to cum because not cumming would leave me craving more. Sometimes, if I’m just fucking for fun, I’ll purposely not cum so that the next 2-3 paying“visitors” will get a built up 💣, preferably on their face 😆 Also: the other day I had 3 bookings, 1 afternoon and 2 evenings. I only needed to get off for the afternoon and 3rd evening one. So after the 1st client, I went to the gym, built my test up, and after the 2nd client I went to dinner at a “straight” biker bar restaurant where the 2 “straight” guys hitting on me, turned me on enough to build up another load for the 3rd client 😆 It’s all relative, and not as hard and calculated as people may think. I realize what tends to mess me up is not multiple clients: but when I get bored and decide to hop on a hookup app, find some hottie to fuck and then can’t perform as well for the next client. That’s why I don’t cum with (the rare times I do) hookups much unless I know my schedule is clear for a couple of days and I can afford not to see a client for a day or so after.

I agree with all the above. Except sometimes it depends on “how” they cancel they 1st time that defines whether it’s fine. Some 1st time cancels are not redeemable, if it’s a booking that involved some degree of trouble (meaning extended effort) to get to. Those would include cancellations that occur en route to the booking, or if I am booked into a hotel and they flake. My thing is: I don’t even want to let it happen twice. Once is too many times (and to be fair, assuming it’s a confirmed booking). Like I said, one guy even sent me a deposit and cancelled, and we’re done. Not because he canceled, but because I went thru a lot of effort to modify my morning and afternoon to accommodate our booking that was planned prior, and he flaked. But it’s water under the bridge now, because I’ve made up the loss x20.

Well tbh, I have my ways of adapting. The “market” as you describe it varies city to city, state to state. I may can’t change the market but I can change my location which by default changes the market. Case in point: I’ve just taken my 6th client in 3 days. I have a 7th one on the way. (All were booked with ample notice and I didn’t even need to collect deposits because they passed the screening with flying colors, though a couple didn’t follow thru…and they sent cancellations out of courtesy) I could never have done this in my home market because I can’t ever get shit done because people BS so much. So: it’s all relative. I know it may sound like I’m bitching, but that’s not the case. It’s just promoting a better way to arrange bookings. In my opinion it sounds like you just let guys just do whatever they want without holding them to anything. I had a client almost cancel on me today. After a heart to heart text…He cancelled his meeting and seen me instead. And he came without even touching himself 😆

I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that if a client wants to make something happen with a certain provider, they do have to book according to how the provider prefers it to be done. That’s just facts. Regardless. You don’t go to a restaurant and push around wait staff to stay later or earlier than posted. Same concept. I think instead of coming off like a one size fits all, maybe you just need to admit that not every escort operates the same way. You come off like you don’t really give a fuck if clients cancel on you or not. That’s your prerogative. It’s already been discussed you have another job that you do outside of sex work. Good for you 👏🏽 But don’t make it seem like everybody should go by your concept. I have no issues asking for deposits and cancellation fees from clients. And I get them. I wish I could just do things laxy dazy and if they show they show, if not they don’t: but guess what: I did that before, and suffered the by-products of it. Hell, one client sent me $400 by next day mail, because he canceled on me as I was traveling to his city (7.5 hours away), and couldn’t reschedule when I arrived the next day. I also canceled an appointment for tomorrow morning because the client wouldn’t send me a deposit. He wants me to do something that would require extra time and effort on my part: and I can’t 100% trust that he’ll show up. So I’m not going to go thru the trouble of doing it. Once again: Experience has taught me that I’ve done it before without taking a deposit, and had my time wasted. So I won’t do it again. You obviously seem okay with taking bigger risks, I’m not. But don’t downplay my intuition ☝Deposits have avoided me a ton of bullshit that I dealt with in A LOT in places like Florida, the Midwest, and pretty much the whole United States (if you’ve never worked here, you may not understand how flaky the gay male sex scene is).

Yeah it definitely does get raggedy! Especially the guy who sent the deposit, but cancelled at 2:30 pm saying he woke up “this morning” with the sniffles and congestion. Fair enough, but I rushed to leave my friends beautiful downtown Denver condo while they were starting an episode of RuPaul…on a Sunday morning after a long night out AND time change. So I could be on time to the session because I had a long drive. He didn’t want to reimburse the rest of the fee (because after all, some think just because we are already coming to town anyway), they don’t understand that an appointment lost, may be money lost for that DAY. But now he’s earned his place on Mr. Number with the rest of the deviants lol. And I don’t even think he was sick, I think he just had a last minute change of decision for whatever reason. Fortunately, I made up for the loss by having other clients. I even got permission from 2 clients to do my 1st ever double-client session (they both wanted the same time, and I didn’t want to turn down one over the other). I can write an anonymous book on that. WOW 😆 I understand some see things as the client being right and free to do whatever, but I think there’s a deeper level of expectation involved when a provider is making concessions out of their lives to accommodate bookings. I know specifically, @Jamie21takes a very non liability concept in favor of clients, which is understandable in a busy bustling market like London…may be so. But I do small markets where 1 client may be all I get that day/slot of day. Meanwhile, my expenses don’t stop. And yes, conferences and business meetings are back in full swing, and the hotel rates have been reflecting that. I feel like hotels and gas are double the amount this year. I don’t even stay downtown in many cities anymore, because it’s too much. I don’t see much purpose or reason in paying in excess of $100 a night for a hotel room, out of pocket as a single gay man. Unless it’s a resort or a large suite. And I hardly ever wind up in a crappy hotel unless I’m visiting an expensive, overbooked town and rates are crazy.