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That is a very sensible comment. Agree completely. As many good experiences I have had, there is always some danger involved in hiring.

I seen this graph the other day, and thought it was helpful because it is arranged like planets in the solar system. COVID is like a full moon, HIV is like the size of Earth, whereas others in history have been like Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune. Talk about a pain in Uranus ? Of course just because a planet (or pandemic) is small in comparison, doesn’t make it small in size.
 


 

 
 
That’s true. I mean already, I’ve been reading crazy news stories that you just don’t normally hear about.
 
What needs attention just as much as coronavirus? Mental health. Crisis mitigation. And it’s being put on the back burner. And the looneys are out in FULL scale. Hikacking buses in Dallas, threatening to bomb hospitals, driving like bats ? out out of hell...
 
Can’t just lose the nose to save face.

I meant it as a way for escorts to promote themselves for later, you (according to what you posted on other threads) are still available to be hired.

No it's not safe... even if you don't kiss each other nor touch you'll be breathing the same air and less than 6 feet apart.
 
Just save your money and hire after the pandemic is over. That's what I'm doing, and I'm also prepaying some of my regulars who are in need of help.

I would argue that complete isolation is nearly, if not more so, deadly that the virus itself.
Then again, suicide isn’t infectious, so maybe there’s a counter argument to be made.
 
I have mainatianed social interactions with one outside family. They come over for dinner
and vice versa. Their only exposure is my house and my only exposure is them. Is there a risk?
Yes. Life has risks. In this case it’s one I'm willing to take for my own personal sanity.
 
Normally, I would be entertaining 3-4 times a week with various people.
 
To me it’s about “risk reduction”, not some insane absolute.
 
I also fucked men with a condom in the 80’s when I could have abstained completely.
 
Call me a reckless rebel if you wish.

There's a legacy to all that. I've posted this article in several other threads. But it's good news, and one big reason to feel hopeful amidst a gathering storm. All the hard work and dead ends and deaths of that time did result in advances and drugs that have already saved lives in this outbreak.
 
Optimism grows that drugs from past outbreaks may treat coronavirus
Drugs developed in the past to treat malaria, AIDS and other respiratory syndromes are showing promise against coronavirus.

What a happy ending (no pun intended). It's always good to have a client who's willing to front us during the hard times.
 
This is my personal opinion, and I know there's clients who never send deposits or cancel fees, but may tip double the price. So it doesn't mean they aren't generous. But at the same time, I think sometimes people see us tit for tat with other lines of work. Like aka, "i don't pay my dentist upfront". Well yeah but you're not fucking your dentist and seeing naked pictures of him though, are you? And that's the thing: escorts are working technically, even when we're not meeting in person. In some ways, an escort can be like a family or good friend you'd send money to if they needed it. Not just a "Business".
 
Other day I had a client I've never met before drop $500 in my account. Far more than I expected. But, the drive was 3 hours and considering my other client before him royally stood me up, I wasn't complaining.
 
I also have "sponsors" who are willing to front me for future sessions. I felt bad that one in particular was unable to meet me last month. But I was there in his state for nearly 2 months, and he just wasn't able to meet timing wise. Hopefully in the near future.
 
At the same time, I don't want to be in a position where I'm accepting funds months and years in advance, because by then...too much time will have gone by and an escort may feel technically out of pocket.

What a happy ending (no pun intended). It's always good to have a client who's willing to front us during the hard times.
 
This is my personal opinion, and I know there's clients who never send deposits or cancel fees, but may tip double the price. So it doesn't mean they aren't generous. But at the same time, I think sometimes people see us tit for tat with other lines of work. Like aka, "i don't pay my dentist upfront". Well yeah but you're not fucking your dentist and seeing naked pictures of him though, are you? And that's the thing: escorts are working technically, even when we're not meeting in person. In some ways, an escort can be like a family or good friend you'd send money to if they needed it. Not just a "Business".
 
Other day I had a client I've never met before drop $500 in my account. Far more than I expected. But, the drive was 3 hours and considering my other client before him royally stood me up, I wasn't complaining.
 
I also have "sponsors" who are willing to front me for future sessions. I felt bad that one in particular was unable to meet me last month. But I was there in his state for nearly 2 months, and he just wasn't able to meet timing wise. Hopefully in the near future.
 
At the same time, I don't want to be in a position where I'm accepting funds months and years in advance, because by then...too much time will have gone by and an escort may feel technically out of pocket.

Yes, guys are freezing their ads for a world after Covid-19 and in the meantime they won't be charged but their ads won't be visible in searches.
 
I think it's worth paying the monthly fee for 2 or 3 months just to get some attention and potential clients later.

As an aside: has anyone noticed? The amount of ads on both RentMen and RentMasseur has taken a steep dive. Many cities are seeing just 1 page of ads.
 
What I’m seeing is on par with the amount of providers that were around back in 2008-2009, before it came the overly saturated that we once knew of pre-Corona. I just hope RentMen and company can keep things afloat. But I would hope they have a hefty reservoir at this point.

Are you a resident of France or New York? Because the stimulus checks apply to all under $99,000 and the unemployment is being extended to gig and independent contractors, who are typically not eligible for unemployment:
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-stimulus-package-questions-answers.amp.html

I don't want to get into another deep debate about this, but as I've already said in previous threads...this will come and go and simply become another news story once the next big headline makes way.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/11/26/247379604/2009-flu-pandemic-was-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
 
Obviously what's happening is a terrible thing that is going to shake up the biz, but so was 9/11, the 2008 recession, swine flu, and the AIDS outbreak (before my time).
 
Look what happened after AIDS: the biggest porn names of all time were created, online male escorting took off, and here we are now.
 
Once the restrictions are lifted, people will be back to their way of doing things. When the pulse nightclub shooting happened, gay bars in Orlando didn't see crowds for awhile. Eventually people came to terms and started getting back into the swing of things.
 
But to answer your question: I plan to keep on trucking with it. I do need to make some changes here and there, but it's not an overnight process. You don't just stop working for yourself, and suddenly going to have something on the ready. As has been the case before this, I plan to situate myself in small markets and avoid the big cities. Recently laid off guys are coming on the scene expecting this to be something to fall back on, so we're going to see people coming and going.
 
As of now, all of my regular clients want to see me...but we're in this stronghold of social suppression, and it needs to be lifted before anything can change.

I don't want to get into another deep debate about this, but as I've already said in previous threads...this will come and go and simply become another news story once the next big headline makes way.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/11/26/247379604/2009-flu-pandemic-was-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
 
Obviously what's happening is a terrible thing that is going to shake up the biz, but so was 9/11, the 2008 recession, swine flu, and the AIDS outbreak (before my time).
 
Look what happened after AIDS: the biggest porn names of all time were created, online male escorting took off, and here we are now.
 
Once the restrictions are lifted, people will be back to their way of doing things. When the pulse nightclub shooting happened, gay bars in Orlando didn't see crowds for awhile. Eventually people came to terms and started getting back into the swing of things.
 
But to answer your question: I plan to keep on trucking with it. I do need to make some changes here and there, but it's not an overnight process. You don't just stop working for yourself, and suddenly going to have something on the ready. As has been the case before this, I plan to situate myself in small markets and avoid the big cities. Recently laid off guys are coming on the scene expecting this to be something to fall back on, so we're going to see people coming and going.
 
As of now, all of my regular clients want to see me...but we're in this stronghold of social suppression, and it needs to be lifted before anything can change.

Any song titled “Happy” has to make you happy.....
 

I want to add one more perspective to this all. Escorting and dating is almost an oxymoron. I’m not speaking for anyone in particular, or undermining any good escort relationships out there. But most guys in the biz aren’t in it because they’re trying to “date” (unless one is referring to dating=hooking up), or they may have moved on from the dating “rat race”.
 
In my case, I’m over the dating rat race. When I look back over the years, many of the “dates” I’ve had were a waste of time. With some of these guys, you just have to fuck em once or twice, and move on with your life. PERIOD. I be finding most of them only around for convenience, and what you can do for them. They don’t want to contribute, always want me to work around their schedule, etc. Then they criticize and put me down. Dating can be toxic, and I usually find afterwards that the ones I thought were a good catch, turn out to be assholes.
 
My most recent quasi-dating situation: A guy I’ve fucked a couple times last year. Met him in his city the 1st time, St. Louis the 2nd time, Kansas City the 3rd time, and then Florida the 4th time. By the end of the 2nd time, he had already started referring us to just “friends”, no sex. Which is where I should have dropped it then. Because from there, the whole “friendship” became annoying and meaningless. Then I had to listen to him go on and on about some other guy he was trying to be in a relationship with. Goodbye, it was nice knowing you!
 
I also met with a guy over Easter, who I’ve previously “hooked up” with last year. Waste of my time again. I go over to his house, I walk in and he’s playing x box. I haven’t seen him in months. I stay over for an hour, and he’s talking about he has a family video chat and has company coming over later. Prior to that he said he had frat brothers over. I’m thinking to myself, why did I even waste my time going over there? I don’t have time to be trying to “squeeze in” to spend time with someone, when they’re not trying to do the same. That’s equivalent to 250/hr down the drain. Just pointless. I will not be wasting my time with him again.
 
That’s part of why I’ve been sticking with the hobby for as long as I have. Even though it’s not perfect, and can challenge your mental health...it’s not even CLOSE to the level that goes on in regular “dating” situations. Escorting allows all the physical aspects of dating, but without the baggage and drama of getting to “know someone”. And trust me, most of these guys aren’t worth getting to know, because they’re all about convenience and see other gay guys as accessories, not something to invest in.
 
Escorting has taken me from LA to Key West, Provincetown to San Francisco. And everywhere in between. I have clients who I may see once every 1 or 2 years, and we still have like the best relationship when together. I also keep in touch in between. It works for me.

Good point here ??
 
And that’s what I’ve been coming to realize overtime just “dating” many people over the years, who happen to be outside of the biz.
 
I’ve even come to the conclusion that “dating” is no longer going to be in my vocabulary. It’s not that it’s a bad thing or that I don’t believe in it, but it creates expectations and false sense of commitment far too soon. I dealt with that so much in my 20s, “talking to” guys, who were also “talking to” other guys. Or people who hook up a couple times and one claims they were “dating” and another wasn’t. Then someone gets hurt.
 
So nowadays, if I meet someone, and we’re hooking up, we’re only going to be friends who fuck. FWF. If after some time we decide to be more, then it’ll progress to boyfriends. If it’s another escort, great, but I’m not necessarily looking for it to be. But in my experience, like you said, most escorts don’t come to the table with dating on the menu.
 
I’ve had a few connects with other escorts, either thru client 3way (or even 4 way lol) sessions, or RentMen ads. But most seem to be in it for an agenda, not so much giving off a vibe of something date-wise.

Most of the escorts I know simply love escorting. Money, sex, trips, friendship, being appreciated, knowledge, experience, etc. Obviously I'm talking about men who decided to do it because it was their choice and compared to other jobs they had it gives them a lot of free time to enjoy life while making a lot of money.
 
Wear and tear? Try working as a store clerk and get ready for boredom, work in an office and you'll worried and busy even after 5 PM when you're home.
 
Obviously in a relationship an escort won't be available all the time even if he's open with his partner about it. Life is about choices!
 

 
Exitus acta probat
 
Only the good ones like you like you last so long specially now in this competitive market!

Wunderkinds Kristian and Athan (Athen?) were a couple when they moved to LA back in the early Hooville days.
 
Rick and Derrick were the original internet escort couple
 
I used to hook up with escorts and sometimes become friends when I was young, no dating though. Not so for the last 10 years.
 
Still very beautiful of course, and a very sweet guy, I thought Alec's athletic frame, when he first started escorting, hung better on him than the packed-on-muscle one he had when he returned to escorting. Just my personal taste, wondering if anyone feels the same?

I can speak to having a partner not in the business. My partner and I met at a sex party, on our first date (a week later). I told him I was an escort, and he said he didn't believe monogamy. Three years later, our primary issue has been my time away from him when I have multi-hour clients. Early on, he would have just hooked up with a guy while I was with a client (he was an amateur slut as opposed to my professional level ?). However, over the last 2 years he's suffered from IBS, which has impacted his sex life... Making him feel lonely when I'm working with a client. Even though he understands the economic need, it's still an issue we're working through.

I wouldn't be opposed to it if I found the right one. I am into other muscular/bodybuilder providers and unfortunately most of them are straight. #sadday

Palm Springs is much larger than Key West, Saugatuck or P-town (where I met my spouse 52 years ago!), and of course it is more accessible from a major urban area than those three; there are even residents of Palm Springs who commute to work in the L.A. area daily. I have never been tempted to try out Eureka Springs. If you make it to PS next year, I'm sure you will be welcomed.

I don't want to get into another deep debate about this, but as I've already said in previous threads...this will come and go and simply become another news story once the next big headline makes way.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/11/26/247379604/2009-flu-pandemic-was-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
 
Obviously what's happening is a terrible thing that is going to shake up the biz, but so was 9/11, the 2008 recession, swine flu, and the AIDS outbreak (before my time).
 
Look what happened after AIDS: the biggest porn names of all time were created, online male escorting took off, and here we are now.
 
Once the restrictions are lifted, people will be back to their way of doing things. When the pulse nightclub shooting happened, gay bars in Orlando didn't see crowds for awhile. Eventually people came to terms and started getting back into the swing of things.
 
But to answer your question: I plan to keep on trucking with it. I do need to make some changes here and there, but it's not an overnight process. You don't just stop working for yourself, and suddenly going to have something on the ready. As has been the case before this, I plan to situate myself in small markets and avoid the big cities. Recently laid off guys are coming on the scene expecting this to be something to fall back on, so we're going to see people coming and going.
 
As of now, all of my regular clients want to see me...but we're in this stronghold of social suppression, and it needs to be lifted before anything can change.

I've actually been to both of them considering I do most of my tours by ground, and end up in different neighborhoods. I've been all around Boulder City, Henderson, North Las Vegas, heck even St. George Utah lol.
 
But I didn't know those areas were bigger (which I suppose you mean more populated) than the Coachella Valley. I did always feel Palm Springs was a little getaway area. Twin cities would be Key West, Provincetown, and I even hear of a place in Michigan called Saugatuck or something like that. But it's supposed to be a bit smaller. Then you have Eureka Springs down in Arkansas which claims to be the most gay per capita residence nationwide. But they compare it to relative number of gays per the population.
 
That said, in all my travels there's just nothing like palm springs. It is the adult Disney world. This year wouldn't of worked for me anyway because I went last year and again in November, but next season I'll likely make a return or go around my preferred October/November before or after gay pride (hint hint) @Oliver

I don't want to get into another deep debate about this, but as I've already said in previous threads...this will come and go and simply become another news story once the next big headline makes way.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
 
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/11/26/247379604/2009-flu-pandemic-was-10-times-more-deadly-than-previously-thought
 
Obviously what's happening is a terrible thing that is going to shake up the biz, but so was 9/11, the 2008 recession, swine flu, and the AIDS outbreak (before my time).
 
Look what happened after AIDS: the biggest porn names of all time were created, online male escorting took off, and here we are now.
 
Once the restrictions are lifted, people will be back to their way of doing things. When the pulse nightclub shooting happened, gay bars in Orlando didn't see crowds for awhile. Eventually people came to terms and started getting back into the swing of things.
 
But to answer your question: I plan to keep on trucking with it. I do need to make some changes here and there, but it's not an overnight process. You don't just stop working for yourself, and suddenly going to have something on the ready. As has been the case before this, I plan to situate myself in small markets and avoid the big cities. Recently laid off guys are coming on the scene expecting this to be something to fall back on, so we're going to see people coming and going.
 
As of now, all of my regular clients want to see me...but we're in this stronghold of social suppression, and it needs to be lifted before anything can change.