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@KeepItReal, here you go.

You’ve got members in this forum who act like unless you make seven digits, you shouldn’t be involved in this hobby. Not my view, but the provincial, myopic view of some here.

And how are you to know? Like I said, I had two providers who wanted me to know they considered me friends as long as the gifts and money and trips kept coming. But when I went MIA because of my mom’s COVID situation and communication and favors dried up, the friendship evaporated. One even ghosted me…after I shared that my mother had died. The other seems more…uninterested now. On the whole, I don’t call people friends because like I said, it means I consider myself devoted to them in a way I wouldn’t with just anyone. But if someone explicitly says to me they consider themselves my friend, that changes the calculus – or it has in the past at least. As for escorts as friends – I’ve learned my lesson. Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me. I’ve had escorts tell me they are my friends and it turned out they weren’t. I’m not letting that happen again. And so that may mean that I don’t consider any escort a friend. One rotten apple spoiled the bunch. Add to that…I simply wouldn’t pay any friend, at this point, to fuck. If I’m paying someone to fuck me, then it’s business.

@DrownedBoy– I agree with you largely. I especially agree with you regarding the competitive rates in the market where you find yourself. You’ll all sorts of defenses to the contrary here, for various reasons. The most popular “if he can get the rate, let him.” Very capitalistic, but you’ll also see that the vehement advocates for that capitalism only seem to care so passionately about the supply side.

When the provider says something akin to “I hope you consider me among your friends,” that’s different than me thinking because we hit off, that we’re friends. That word/line is manipulative coming from a provider.

I find it interesting that GB is so different, in more ways than one!

The “friends” question comes into play here.

I also don’t immediately consider someone a friend that I owe something. When you’re my friend, I owe you my devotion. And that means some sacrifice. Friendship doesn’t mean much otherwise…* *For me

Til I make such a comment. Then it’s very serious.

This really bothers me. I cannot express exactly how much it bothers me. The negative association you choose to make out the gate without knowing me and assigning value to my statements that nowhere near approached the level of - “menu” of men. And add to that the piling on that members of this forum have done to applaud it. It really does say that there are people here are predisposed to be jerks and assholes. Instead of reading something as a neutral statement or even saying, “Surely my gut reaction was wrong and he didn’t mean that,” some will go with the worst case, most insulting interpretation at hand.

Or they’re desperate in these “difficult, unprecedented times.”

First of all, that’s a disparaging, derogatory reading of what I wrote. Secondly, I do look holistically at the guy. And I’ve found that those who haven’t fallen victim to “Hollywood glam” are much better at providing. Add to that that they’re not as expensive, it’s a better combo for me. I resent the idea that I’m picking over providers like menu items. I resent it greatly and find it personally insulting.

I knew this example would come up. You would pay them. Would they demand it? There’s a difference. Maybe they would. I’ve always offered my professional services to friends free of charge. But folks who aren’t friends get my bill…and I follow up. That doesn’t mean if a friend offers me something for my professional service I don’t take it. I do. But I don’t ask or expect it. For a friend. With the escorts who wanted me to know they were friends, all I can say is as long as money and gifts flowed their way, they were tangentially attentive “off the clock,” and when we were together they were very…assuming. Both of these so-called “friends” who are escorts went MIA after sharing with them that my mother died of COVID and that’s why my communication and attention to them had suffered. So…friends? Meh. No. They manipulated my feelings and I was duped. Admit it. Learn from it. Don’t repeat it.

I am “the boss,” so… And I was the one who proposed to the board four years ago that I take a 40% salary cut to keep the company solvent. I have the best job in the world (for me) and have been and would be paid less than my education level and experience level should dictate because I love my job so much. So to talk about doing work just for the pay, for me, is a tad foreign. I understand there are folks out there who do that, and that I’m fortunate that I have a job like this, but it’s really 100% true. There’s a difference between an occupation and a vocation. I believe I am paid, fortunately, to live my vocation.

It is. It’s disappointing when we end up paying and aren’t satisfied…Especially disappointing if we pay a premium. At a certain point, there’s a diminishing return on investment for satisfaction. I don’t need to pay a premium just because some guy has done porn; in fact, my experience with guys who’ve done more than several porn shoots (not “big” names, but still) has been more the more entitled crowd. The guys who are “just” escorts have been much more down to earth and less caught up in their own glam. At this point, I’m not interested in paying for a porn star. He won’t be as gloriously manicured and stage lit when we’re together anyhow.

You mean we won’t mistake it for a different bulge or augmentation? 😆

I have to call my bank if I want to take more than $500 out of the ATM!

You really have to be offering me something outstanding for me to countenance rates like that.

I even looked for that…And didn’t see it. It must’ve been because it was late. That does add a little nuance to that puzzle. Still…has anyone met him?

If you’ll take $1200/night, say so and don’t budge from it. Same way if you’re willing to pay $2000/night.

That’s really the point I was trying to make with a lot of words. The meeting 100% wouldn’t be happening if I weren’t paying. I’ve escorts, two actually, tell me they consider me a friends. Friends don’t fuck friends for money. I’ve learned that.

Tsk tsk. @nycboi– You must learn. The escort denizens deserve it! They’re entitled to. You should be happily handing your money at $400/hr over to them. If not more! You’ve asked a forbidden question. You’ll be told if he can get $400/hr, it’s not too much. Just like Jeff Bezos making his fortune while Amazon workers can’t pay for basic necessities. Bezos can get it, so it’s not too much.

https://rent.men/MascColombianBot Has anyone met this guy? His ad says basically nothing and unless I’m missing something, “bot” hardly sounds like a real (legit) guy…

I wear what fits. My options are limited.

Anonymity.