Coolwave35

Do any other Long Islanders know Showworld?
I guess the way to describe it is a super seedy sex positive video arcade and more?
For anyone that hasn't been, there are multiple rooms.  There is a room where women are available.  There is a private room for transgenders and role play.  They have another room with bird cages, fish tanks, sex toys and essentials.  There is the dark room where all sorts of shit goes down.  Finally, there is a large open room, lined with video booths all playing porn you can choose from with little curtain booths.  My understanding is if you leave the curtain open, you want company.  If it's closed, you want glory hole service, or company is by invite only.  There is like a code.
The place fascinates me.  I've seen super hot muscle bottoms getting fucked by a line of everyday guys.  I've seen slaves with their masters.  I've seen men pimping their wives out in the middle of the floor to suck a line of dicks while he jerks off behind her.  There has been some amazing stuff.  As I've gotten more comfortable, I've been stopping by more frequently, really indulging in the Sodom and Gamorrah like scene.
The place is magic.
I went yesterday around 6pm, and I could tell by the parking lot that it was busy.  I fancy the dark room.  It's super hot. The only light is from 2 television screens.  There are 2 secluded sections.  Picture wings that flank the main entry room.  The main entry room has light from the outside, but these flanks are pitch black.
The flanks are DARK.  I wandered in there, unable to see anything.  Slowly I made out figures.  I could tell there was one Transgender looking to suck my dick.  Not my thing so I politely declined.  I backed up to the wall and kind of stood there for a moment.  A hand, out of nowhere, just started massaging my cock.  I was wearing jeans with a short zipper, and a tight belt.  It's my way of regulating access to my junk.  He was nice enough, and kept doing his thing politely, so I let him.
Out of nowhere, a thin, muscle twunk backs up to me and just starts grinding on me with his ass, and moves the other guy's hand away.  I start feeling him up, rubbing his biceps and abs.  I can't see his face.  I assume he's early 20's but have no idea.  He tilts his head back, I suck on his neck for a minute, go for the reach around and I can't find a penis.  Either it was a super buff transgender woman, or the guy was tucked.  After fumbling around crotch, he just leaves me.  I was disapointed, but all good.  
The guy who was initially rubbing my dick over my jeans gets up to leave and turns out to be a little over 60.  I don't know if he was bored, or annoyed that other dude moved in.  The rules are very unclear here.
I'm still against the wall, and out of nowhere again, a man on his knees appears in front of me.  He undoes my belt, opens my zipper and begins to suck me off.  He was very good.  While that was going on, another guy, in his early 30's, just starts making out with me.  Because of my eyes adjusting to the light, and my proximity to his face with his tongue in my mouth, I can see him.  I'm throat fucking the guy on his knees, and making out with cute early 30s.  He says "do you want to fuck me" in this really breathy, trying to be too sexy, and "discrete" voice.  I said are you neg and on prep.  He said I have a condom.  I said are you neg and on prep.  He said I have a condom.  Then he full on stuck his nose in my mouth so I couldn't talk.  I thought maybe he just missed another kiss, but nope.  Nose in my mouth, with my head against the wall and cock still being sucked.  I said I won't fuck with a condom if you can't answer the neg question.  He just left.  Safety first.  
Cock sucking is still going on.  Another guy, maybe mid 40's, literally pushed me onto a couch while my dick was being sucked.  He said "move over, we're going to share."  Both guys are slurping on my dick.  It was really hot.  Now that I'm laying on the couch, with my knees kinda over the arm rest, I realize, for the first time, only inches away now, that there is a man being fucked over the couch.  His dick was near my mouth so I went for it.  I wound up cumming, the bottom got hard, I left.
Total time inside, 14 mintues.
If anyone is curious about checking out but scared, I'm happy to chaperone.  I won't leave your side, I'll help you navigate to get what you want, and then I'll post all about it here.  🙂 

That’s not him. 

We went to Paris. It was amazing. I know I wrote about the whole trip here somewhere. He was the guy. I feel ok identifying him now that he’s on RM. 
We spent a lot of time together over the course of a year I think. We had some crazy sexual adventures with another provider and some really fun club nights. 
 
Of all the paid providers I’ve enjoyed over the past decade, he’s the only one I miss and it feels unfinished. 
 
I realize I have a distorted view of money because I have it in abundance so I can’t really weigh in on whether a thousand for a session is worth it for a first timer. Sorry. 😕

I’m sure of it. 

I’m sure of it. 

I’m sure of it. 

I disagree - I’ve found the opposite to be true in personal experience. 
It’s all about the selection process & treating people well, meaning providers are treated exactly like any other guest or person providing a personal service.  I also pay attention to what my instincts say - sometimes it’s just a look in the eyes that tells me no. 
there are some guys that go into this work thinking it’s easy money, with bad intentions or w overwhelming personal problems - they generally don’t last, are not well-reviewed and can be avoided.
I’ve never been asked for a loan by a provider.  If it happened, I wouldn’t hire that person again because it’s just unprofessional.  
get used to saying no to people for any unreasonable request or something that just makes you uncomfortable- makes life much easier. 

You got scammed dude, it happens to the best of us. Move on and don’t make the same mistake again. Sorry he got one over on you. It sucks. 

You can see on his IG that he's seasoned in the East Coast "network" of IG boys for discreet hire and notable, busy, gentlemen who connoisseur them. That's why he was expecting/asking $1k+... for anyone familiar that grade/class/style/type of guy seeks most of his work through social media DM, probably started their career being brought in by friends as "party favors"  with "VIP" gentlemen either at private parties or the obvious circuit parties run by "promoters," where the standard is the boys leave with envelopes or Venmos of a few grand and connections with new hot guys to hookup with, earn with, and the daddies and gents who scheduled dates, followed on social media, etc.
This is where things can get touchy.. the guys who are DL bi, "gay for pay", ambiguous, etc. often can continue to command multigrand prices if they are good at the game. The gay ones, being naturally more fluid and comfortable with the environment to party and play (and not infrequently, maybe, addendum erotic interest in cleancut successful gentlemen in a range of age and range of nerdiness to glamorousness), often end up maneuvering a range from multi hundreds ($500+, enough to be ~above~ an average escort via RM or porn, but selectively as coveted) to a few thousand when and where they can maintain the interest. Things like follower count/popularity/known exclusivity/ who you've shot with or modeled for/ if you're actually signed with an agency/ and where you're based etc. are all factors in effect for what you may negotiate or pay with these kinds of guys. This provider is Ivy educated it seems? Absolutely contributes to his expectations. There are very discreet "agents" or networkers who seek this out as well to groom the type of guy for professional or exclusive dates with all manner of successful and discreet guy some of whom may be on this forum but I deduce most are not. 
Like someone mentioned, they met this provider for less than $1000, didn't surprise me, but I'd bet it wasn't the $300 escort "standard". Similarly know a kept boy of a certain gay Hollywood bigshot still meeting interested parties for $500 dates despite presenting as the $1k+ type standard. The Brazilian babe surcharge NY-FL mentioned here on other threads is often because of this too. They're balancing interest via social media and, discreet or not, ads on RM.
This provider didn't get on RM delusionally expecting $1k, he was already groomed that way. I'm guessing the recent change in profile is because he's tired of the seedier enquiries via RM from guys maxing out at $400. Likely, one could reach him via IG DM for business but expect that $1k price tag in place or at least his starting point. It's not arrogance per se, mind you -it becomes something of a competition and discreet status game to be commanding the highest and most exotic offers, to be sought after for these parties... and subseqently presenting the most fabulous life online. None wants to be the one caught lowering their business to "whore" levels, and that often becomes an inside joke only for and among themselves.
Major extra caveat here is how this all works out when factoring international marketplace prices etc. but that's for a different tangent. 

guy asks for $1k
then says I’m good no more 
and some here want him more 
what a marketing case study 

I want foreign based airlines to be able to fly between U.S. cities so we can experience real First class domestically. Too often I think "this isn't really First class, it is just better than the ecomony seats behind me".

I think, as is often the case, it is “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”
A lot of guys on Rentmen try to sound a smidge smarter than they are, or distinguished, and it doesn’t always land correctly. 

Yup yup yup! 

I met a boy from seeking back in August as I often do. He’s 20 and gorgeous. He’s 6’1” with a giant Dick and beautiful ass. He’s on the row team for a top 20 University. He grew up poor.  What I asked from him was to help me be a better top.  His ask of me was to travel and learn how to make horizontal income. 

He spent the last two weeks of his Summer break in August at my house.  When we get together, we have the greatest time.  We go to sex shops and pick out toys that I can use to explore bringing pleasure to his prostrate.  
Our next trip together is to Paris in a few weeks.  We’re both really excited. 
I taught him how to identify products to sell on Amazon. He’s making $350 a week in profit and he just started before Labor Day. He’s really hungry to identify more products and his passion and ambition is a HUGE turn on. It’s also my first arrangement that isn’t transactional hour by hour, or meeting by meeting.  
 
For example; his compensation for Paris, per his proposal, is the travel itself. This is the first boy that I’m taking on a trip that isn’t being compensated for his time outside of the trip’s expenses. I’m worried that it’s a recipe for disaster but I agreed to it. He has a seeking mindset, not a rentmen mind set and it’s been very challenging for me to learn the difference.  When he spent the two weeks at my house, his compensation was a Prada wallet, some designer sunglasses, upgraded tech for his dorm room and a new iPad. It amounted to less than $2k for having his company in and out of the bedroom for two weeks. He was ecstatic but I had a hard time because I felt like I had taken advantage of him. This seeking thing really is a different world and a serious game changer to the traditional hiring experience. 
 
https://mega.nz/file/g41mGTpB#GVHSeKweGKsHAw72LN3v4ZY0Zrt1mWfUXvU_pGha9Rk
 

I think findom is less about sex and more about power. If I was into it, I think I’d want to be findommed by someone feminine, perceived to have less power than me, perceived to be remorseless and exploitive etc. I’m not, but I could see why this dude checks the boxes. 

We went to Paris. It was amazing. I know I wrote about the whole trip here somewhere. He was the guy. I feel ok identifying him now that he’s on RM. 
We spent a lot of time together over the course of a year I think. We had some crazy sexual adventures with another provider and some really fun club nights. 
 
Of all the paid providers I’ve enjoyed over the past decade, he’s the only one I miss and it feels unfinished. 
 
I realize I have a distorted view of money because I have it in abundance so I can’t really weigh in on whether a thousand for a session is worth it for a first timer. Sorry. 😕

many gay men share a history of being bullied & mocked as children/teens when they didn’t fit-in, looking & acting different.
funny how some haven’t learned as adults how to extend grace when someone looks/acts different
i guarantee there are people in all of our lives that don’t understand our choices - and they don’t need to.  same thing 
 
 

Not to say that some people don't understand the meaning of words, but if you you say you're not doing something -- and then you do it, you have actually done what you've said you weren't going to do. It's true!

Interesting that there’s SO MUCH discussion here.  My two cents 
Paying more doesn’t mean it’s better 
a provider maximizing his price is his right 
for me I could I would I have done $1000 - 1x - it was amazing 
very few that I would do that for 
I’d prefer a flight somewhere nice lol 

Even if I had unlimited funds, I would not give a 22-year-old thousands of dollars. Not to yuck anyone's yum, but I don't find this kid remotely desirable. 
If he can get that sum, good for him, but I know plenty of wealthy people who would look askance at the idea that just because they have money, they should throw it at anyone with abs. 

I have paid thousands and I have paid hundreds. The thousands have been pretty much outstanding. The hundreds, not so much. Can't say I have an abundance, but thousand is not a scary number and I know how gortunate I am. Just because you chose not to spend for whatever reason does not make the product a rip off or the provider a jerk, just not your choice for one reason or the other. And a positive word from Cool Wave,  very convincing. I have unknowingly followed in his footsteps a few times and never been dissapointed. 

You got scammed dude, it happens to the best of us. Move on and don’t make the same mistake again. Sorry he got one over on you. It sucks. 

As my father once said to me when I asked for a loan, "Son, if the bank doesn’t think you’re a good risk, why the fuck should I?"
He had a point and I learned a lesson.
Whenever someone asks me for a loan, I either say "no" or I give them the money and never expect it back. I will not ask nor hint to be repaid. I will however, never make another "loan" until the first one is repaid. 
So far that has worked for me. I’m not an ass about helping others. But I’m also not a sucker. And in general our friendships have remained intact. Whether or not they repaid me.

You got scammed dude, it happens to the best of us. Move on and don’t make the same mistake again. Sorry he got one over on you. It sucks. 

I almost never lend any money, but I did lend my roommate some money a year ago on a very short term basis and got repaid within two weeks (I made him sign a note which promised repayment within that time frame).  We watch Judge Judy reruns together so having a formal acknowledgement of the loan and repayment terms seemed sensible even though we trust each other.  Speaking of which, forty years ago I lent another roommate money so she could put down her share of the security deposit on the apartment we were renting.  I had to hound her for that money for several weeks even though she told me she'd repay me the week after I lent the money to her.  It is kind of surprising, but even among people who seem to be nice, ethical people there are those who have no qualms about taking financial advantage of someone else if they can get away with it.