FRyan22

I think I'm still a little young for the Department for the Aging. Ha.
 
Thrilled to say that I'm doing much better since I originally posted this nearly two years ago. I quit drinking in September of 2017, finally found an anti-depressant that works well for me, started a new career about 9 months ago, adopted a coonhound named Lewis who I love to pieces, currently remodeling my house so I can sell and move into a bigger place, and things have pretty much never been better.
 
Quitting drinking was key. It was a good move. I recommend it to everyone.

Getting back to the thread topic of meeting Fitness and Physique models, any other venues or forums that haven’t already been listed to reach out/facilitate meet ups?
 
It seems that Instagram is the most common, then sites like Seeking Arrangements or bestflex. Any other ideas or tips?

I like that dynamic as well , and I would like to try and play that out with a professional and willing participant from a voyeur perspective

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

He does indeed look like his pics! Handsome guy! ??

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

Flake parade continues across the country. NYC, I have openings now for tomorrow ?

well isn't this a frosty Friday......
 

I’m reading all what you and some of the other posters are saying, and it is good advice IF this was simply someone asking how to advertise themselves.
 
But in a nutshell, in this case you’re basically saying “it’s your fault they flaked on you”, and that’s a dangerous game to play. I recently spent 2 days of texts deliberating with a (non-escort/now ex friend) because whenever I (foolishly) go to him about a client who treated me LESS THAN what I FELT I deserved, his first reaction was to fault and blame me: “You’re always late, YOU did this, YOU shouldn’t have done that, etc.” He was so quick to judge, yet the mother foer hasn’t ever escorted a day in his life (except the couple times I invited him to a 3way with a client who requested it) to understand what all goes into the business. Especially when you’re traveling.
 
For example: I’ll even address one of the Palm Springs event late arrival. Now, @Epigonos was my “date” for the evening. Saturday I was the last person to show up for the dinner, but fortunately we were still all served at the same time. So what was the ROOT of the lateness? A degenerate who flaked on me earlier in the week (his excuse, fell asleep while waiting for his kids to go to sleep), on a TUESDAY. How? Because he completely no showed on the day I was scheduled to leave. I had it all planned out my road trip from Kansas City to Palm Springs. I ended up waiting for his lying FUCK ass so late, by the time it was evident he wasn’t going to show, it messed up the “timing” of my trip, which in turn caused me to have to leave the next day, a Wednesday. And I had to be in Palm Springs Saturday by 5 pm.
 
Regardless, I carried on...but the flop equated to less cash than expected (because I paid all my bills before the Palm Springs weekend so I wouldn’t have to worry about it while I’m out there, as I was confident I would meet clients along the way, and I had them booked). So, when it was looking like I wasn’t going to have enough cash to complete the trip, I had to end up taking a last minute client 1/3 of the way thru the trip. And it was an incall client, which meant I had to stop and get a hotel. By the time the session was over, it was late at night and I was too tired to continue on to my 2nd destination after having already rode 6 hours.
 
So, I ended up having to leave for my 2nd destination on Thursday, the day I had clients scheduled! Both clients could only meet before 5 pm, and my trip was 8 HOURS. Not to mention losing 1.5 hour due to a BS narcotics harassment along the way....which was a complete nothingburger of a situation and wasted tax payer money.
 
Fast forward, once I arrived, neither of the 2 clients could meet, and cancelled. That was $850 LOST...gained $100 in cancel fee because one of the clients said he reserved the whole day for me, but then changed it saying he had to work early the next morning...which was NOT mentioned prior.
 
So here it is Thursday, I done lost close to $1,000 in planned finances and only recovered $350...which ain’t shit when gas is $3+ a gallon, V8 engine takes premium at 21 gallons, and the trip is 1,500+ miles.
 
So Friday comes, things are looking not good. Fortunantely at the last minute, I get an outcall appointment Friday evening. 2 hour session. PERFECT! But mind you, I’m still 11 hours out from Palm Springs. Knowing I have Palm Springs dinner at 5 pm Saturday, I headed out that night after the session.
 
I literally drove until I couldn’t anymore...5:30 am, when the sun started rising and the animals started running across the road...and stopped at some rural Route 66 motel for 4 hours of sleep.
 
Ultimately, I still made it to Palm Springs at 3:50 pm. Over an hour before the dinner. However, time flies when you have deadlines, and by the time I waited at traffic lights, waited for people to cross the street, checked into my resort and meet and greet with the owner for 20 minutes, shower, get ready...it’s almost 6 pm! Still not bad, but people without a conscious like my now DEAD (to me atleast) ex-friend, will paint me as the “inconsiderate late person”...not realizing all the effort I make to make these encounters a reality.
 
I was late to one of the other gatherings, but some people didn’t show up at all. I attended each planned gathering because I respected each one as if it were school, church, or work. When you’re in a new city, new surroundings, doing it all on your own, and trying to meet the schedules of others that may be different from your own “routine” (I generally eat dinner between 8 and 10 pm) people who are a little OCD like me end up running late. But I still respect it and SHOW UP. I almost didn’t show up, but out of respect to @Oliver who counted the attendance for Sunday and the restaurant who expected all people to show up, I went despite being late and braved any sort of embarrassment or criticism that may have arose from that.
 
People who don’t appreciate others will only call out their shortcomings: “you were late”, but not seeing behind the scenes to see WHY a person may be late.
 
But as you can see...what created a distraction in my plans, was the fact that 3 different clients “fell thru”. I initially didn’t want to rely on @Epigonos to send me a deposit because I didn’t want to touch the “contribution”, as I didn’t want it being used up along the way. I wanted to be able to “earn” the honorarium and fortunantely I was able to accomplish that.
 
That said: I know some would think the whole trip (and me) sounds crazy and why didn’t I just fly to Palm Springs. Well, PS was just the MAIN destination. But I turned it into a whole 3 week “exploration”. Despite the cancellations and frustrations, I met an Oscar winner client in New Mexico’s filming industry, met several amazing people in Palm Springs and brought some cool accessories, made 3 new friends in West Hollywood, found my boyfriend in Las Vegas, finally ended my trip by treating myself to a nice leather coat and spa (it just snowed yesterday where I am)
 
Despite the disposable connotation of the gay man, I wish people would look within themselves and have a little more compassion for those who step out of their way to accommodate them. One of the clients who cancelled, normally gives me $600 each session. He wouldn’t even give me a dime for cancellation fee. When I tried to reschedule, he was busy. Sometimes people need to compensate the “preparation” and not just the “action”. It’s like if a horse breeder (or whatever it’s called when people drive horses around the country) was delivering horses, and the “client” says “sorry, too late I can’t make it”. Well, who’s going to pay the gas and feed and transportation costs for these horses, if that person has to then turn back around?
 
But that probably wouldn’t happen because the average person treats their animals with more respect. Some consider “us” lower than dogs (watch Black Klansman). That’s one reason I’ll be escorting for as long as my reproductive system allows. I refuse to be treated like someone’s sex puppet. I met people who’ll spend $1,000 to fly their dog, but can’t even give me a extra $100 to offset my hotel costs. I want to tell them to get the Fuck out of here!
 
Or I may just quit without notice because sometimes the money isn’t always worth dealing with such hierarchical minded males who think you should only be paid if you perform for them when they want it, and anything outside of that “doesn’t work for them”. As if airlines don’t occasionally get delayed, cancel flights, or experience turbulence. They just finessed the art of getting paid upfront, so regardless of what happens, they’ve got you by the balls. You can get sick, get placed next to crying baby, get your ass beat and dragged by TSA, but they still get your money upfront. Yet, ME who has nude photos and simply providing a good time, has to argue and fight for a measly $100 deposit?
 
Goddammit I’m tired of being disrespected and taken for granted. I just hope one day, people will be judged for how they treated others who went out of their way to accommodate them. Until then, I just have to do my best to stand up for what I deserve.

Flake parade continues across the country. NYC, I have openings now for tomorrow ?

I understand bargaining for a weekend or overnight, or if you see someone weekly but for a $20 discount.... it's just annoying.
 
I'm passionate in the defense of escorts. Some threads on here have become a race to the bottom and I have to remind myself we're talking about persons.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

Thanks all for the kind/honest words.
 
Will leave it at that - I’m not commenting on the specific situations or the merits of my own escapades, however I’ll quietly scrutinize those ‘gentlemen’ when they post in the forum about ‘flakes’ in the future ?
 
And yes, that’s my photo ? PM me for more/ contact info.

Thanks all for the kind/honest words.
 
Will leave it at that - I’m not commenting on the specific situations or the merits of my own escapades, however I’ll quietly scrutinize those ‘gentlemen’ when they post in the forum about ‘flakes’ in the future ?
 
And yes, that’s my photo ? PM me for more/ contact info.

Perhaps you could adopt the policy we had at our clinic: if you No Show for your appointment you will be "double-booked" with another No Show client for the same time period for your next appointment - whoever shows up first gets the appointment. It greatly improved our productivity and taught the clients that "time is money." If you do adopt some type of "No Show policy" it would be important for clients to know about it before their first appointment (e.g. double-booking, cancellation fee, no future bookings, small deposit to reschedule, etc). Bottom line: you're running a business, not a hobby.
 
I suspect that there are lots of No Shows on both sides of the business b/c there are rarely consequences, except for getting bad-mouthed occasionally on these forums.
 
Good luck, and welcome.

If you resemble your profile picture, i can’t imagine anyone wanting to cancel on you

Respect for others is a problem in society as a whole and not just the escort-client business. Ask any restaurant owner about no shows for reservations. Ask any business person about problem customers (where I worked, we joked that every year we had to “fire” one or two customers by telling them to go elsewhere).
 
In social situations, I have noticed old fashioned manners and standards no longer apply including respect for others. Obnoxious cell phone stories are legendary and illustrate today’s rude culture.
 
Welcome to the forum. You will find some posters still have old fashioned ways but others will leave much to be desired in their treatment of fellow posters, it will be just like the real world.

Some places in the US do as well. Just a reflection on the lack of decency of people not to call and cancel when they can not make it.
 
My dentist put in a no-show charge last year due to many people not making their appointments.
 
If you can not make a reservation or appointment, how hard is it to make a call? Apparently, that simple gesture of decency is too much for some people.

Welcome! I am sorry to hear that you had this experience. It is disrespectful of clients to treat a provider this way. The golden rule should always apply: treat others as you would want to be treated.
 
Only once over the past 3 years have I cancelled an appointment on short notice. I sent the provider his fee via Google Pay because it was the right thing to do. He has since become a repeat provider.
 
There is no real way for you to call out these members here on the forum as they will likely report you for “attacking a member of the forum”. So my advice is “let it go”. Now if they ask for a 2nd chance to meet, you would be within your rights to ask for a deposit. They can 1. Agree. 2. Decline and skulk off - you dodged a bullet in that case or 3. Decline and post about it here on the forum. In case of 3. you can private message them and remind them that they cancelled on you thus the deposit request - ask them to include that info in their post or if they dont, reply to their post stating your policy of deposit after a cancellation, do it in such a way that it is factual and cant be seen as attacking a member.
 
Reality is that it will take you some time to build up a customer base of repeat customers. They are worth having! ?

Thank you for the input ??
 
While a little charged, I am actually interested in hearing the perspectives/ reasoning/ experiences.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.

New(ish) to the forum. I’ve read a lot here about clients announcing providers who are ‘flakey’ or who ‘cancel last minute’ and the providers are subsequently shamed and poorly reviewed.
 
Fast-forward to today... I’ve been canceled on 3x (three!) in the last 12 hours (by members of this forum). While they may have semi-reasonable excuses, the info only came to light when pressed last-minute.
 
Why the difference in standards? We’re all human trying to move through this life comfortably. Please try to respect everyone’s time, no matter the dynamic.