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Here's the link for this guy.  His ad is a mess and I lost interest almost immediately.
https://rentmasseur.com/MagicHandsA
 
@azdr0710 FYI, you can better target your google search using:  magichandsa site:rentmasseur.com

That’s a tough ask @Italiano 
I understand your viewpoint but my income is higher than a few years back, my stock portfolio is valued more highly and my inflation-proofed bonds are more valuable too. Would it be reasonable for me to expect the price of personal services to be unchanged?
I hired regularly several years ago and rates quoted to me were sometimes higher, sometimes much lower than 300. I didn’t fixate on the rate but rather on my lust for the person and whether my desires would be met.
 
I often played with ‘amateurs’ such as guys from the gym and guys I met online who needed some help. I still have fond memories of a young muscleboy 21 who asked to come over to me. We played for a long afternoon; afterwards he told me how he loved being submissive to an older top, and he only asked me for $50. 
In my direct experience, the rate bears little correlation to the quality of the encounter.

When I started hiring in 2017 $300 was the going rate, and with the bodybuilder-types I see for sessions based on (but not limited to) muscle worship, that hasn’t changed much. In my area of interest, the higher fees ($400+) attach to what some on this forum have termed “Adonis worship”, i.e., some combo of super tall, super built, super hung, super gorgeous, etc. Fortunately for my pocketbook, my tastes run more to shorter, tank-like, muscle-bound palookas.

300 is normal if you let it be
when i'm quoted that i say thank  you but that's more than i'm willing to spend
a brief negotiation ensues ... or not ... all based on their interest
live in south florida, visit nyc and dc and chicago often ... know what you're willing to spend and walk away if youre feeling pressured ... but dont try to disparage the provider

I haven't tried Jim, Tin or Joshua as inquired about by OP.

My Dallas recommendations are

BrandonJ - high quality massage, very sensual, erotic beyond just HE - good looking, fit, skilled - don't let absence of a face pic stop you, he's just discreet b/c professional job
https://rentmasseur.com/BrandonJ

Tristan_James - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his skills, big muscles and hairy body add to the experience
https://rentmasseur.com/Tristan_James

Dann - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - older yet still good looking, fit - is also an esthetician
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37362/

Joe - good quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - short, bit of a dad bod, skilled
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28120/

Jayden - good quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his giant muscles add to the experience
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36767/

All of the above are skilled, dependable, clean, sane, safe and easy to communicate with.

I haven't tried Jim, Tin or Joshua as inquired about by OP.

My Dallas recommendations are

BrandonJ - high quality massage, very sensual, erotic beyond just HE - good looking, fit, skilled - don't let absence of a face pic stop you, he's just discreet b/c professional job
https://rentmasseur.com/BrandonJ

Tristan_James - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his skills, big muscles and hairy body add to the experience
https://rentmasseur.com/Tristan_James

Dann - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - older yet still good looking, fit - is also an esthetician
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37362/

Joe - good quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - short, bit of a dad bod, skilled
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28120/

Jayden - good quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his giant muscles add to the experience
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36767/

All of the above are skilled, dependable, clean, sane, safe and easy to communicate with.

I haven't tried Jim, Tin or Joshua as inquired about by OP.

My Dallas recommendations are

BrandonJ - high quality massage, very sensual, erotic beyond just HE - good looking, fit, skilled - don't let absence of a face pic stop you, he's just discreet b/c professional job
https://rentmasseur.com/BrandonJ

Tristan_James - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his skills, big muscles and hairy body add to the experience
https://rentmasseur.com/Tristan_James

Dann - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - older yet still good looking, fit - is also an esthetician
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37362/

Joe - good quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - short, bit of a dad bod, skilled
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28120/

Jayden - good quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his giant muscles add to the experience
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36767/

All of the above are skilled, dependable, clean, sane, safe and easy to communicate with.

Copy and paste of my previous comment on Tyler in another 2020 thread about him:
Hired him a few years ago. He is as hot in person as in his pics. He was disengaged, almost mechanical so if you're looking for a passionate connection, he's not for you. If you're obsessed with big muscles on a big good looking guy, big equipment and don't mind if he seems to just be going through the motions, then you'll have a great time with him. I do find it strange that he is constantly changing his name and hasn't built up a pile of positive reviews so that could be a red flag and he may be even less "into it" than a few years ago. When I hired him he was Riley and Nicki depending on website. I know he's also advertised as Tyler, TylerD, Tyler Durden, TylerDTX, Nick, Travis, and Travis Durden. Over the years he has mostly split his time between NYC, Florida and Dallas.

Copy and paste of my previous comment on Tyler in another 2020 thread about him:
Hired him a few years ago. He is as hot in person as in his pics. He was disengaged, almost mechanical so if you're looking for a passionate connection, he's not for you. If you're obsessed with big muscles on a big good looking guy, big equipment and don't mind if he seems to just be going through the motions, then you'll have a great time with him. I do find it strange that he is constantly changing his name and hasn't built up a pile of positive reviews so that could be a red flag and he may be even less "into it" than a few years ago. When I hired him he was Riley and Nicki depending on website. I know he's also advertised as Tyler, TylerD, Tyler Durden, TylerDTX, Nick, Travis, and Travis Durden. Over the years he has mostly split his time between NYC, Florida and Dallas.

Copy and paste of my previous comment on Tyler in another 2020 thread about him:
Hired him a few years ago. He is as hot in person as in his pics. He was disengaged, almost mechanical so if you're looking for a passionate connection, he's not for you. If you're obsessed with big muscles on a big good looking guy, big equipment and don't mind if he seems to just be going through the motions, then you'll have a great time with him. I do find it strange that he is constantly changing his name and hasn't built up a pile of positive reviews so that could be a red flag and he may be even less "into it" than a few years ago. When I hired him he was Riley and Nicki depending on website. I know he's also advertised as Tyler, TylerD, Tyler Durden, TylerDTX, Nick, Travis, and Travis Durden. Over the years he has mostly split his time between NYC, Florida and Dallas.

Copy and paste of my previous comment on Tyler in another 2020 thread about him:
Hired him a few years ago. He is as hot in person as in his pics. He was disengaged, almost mechanical so if you're looking for a passionate connection, he's not for you. If you're obsessed with big muscles on a big good looking guy, big equipment and don't mind if he seems to just be going through the motions, then you'll have a great time with him. I do find it strange that he is constantly changing his name and hasn't built up a pile of positive reviews so that could be a red flag and he may be even less "into it" than a few years ago. When I hired him he was Riley and Nicki depending on website. I know he's also advertised as Tyler, TylerD, Tyler Durden, TylerDTX, Nick, Travis, and Travis Durden. Over the years he has mostly split his time between NYC, Florida and Dallas.

Dear HoleTrainer:
I also live in San Francisco.  I have hired a couple of plumbers and paid both when the job was finished.  I hired a couple of handymen; paid both when work was finished.  I have hired many, many masseurs over the period of 30+ years and never paid a deposit.  I do pay for medical services when I arrive for my appointments, but I don't have to send money before I even arrive.  You seem to be confusing sending money to an unknown person before even meeting with paying upon arrival.  A lot of people don't even want to pay upon arrival, but that request is at least in the ballpark of reasonability.  Your argument is that people should also be willing to just look for a plumber on Craigslist and then send money to someone they found there without any knowledge whether that person will show up and have the skills required to do the job.  That's just silly, but if you want to keep arguing that it's reasonable for people to send money to strangers in the hopes that person is not a scammer and then just be okay if they lose money here and there because it's the equivalent of spending money on restaurant food and not liking it then go ahead. I don't see how being disappointed in what was provided for the money is the equivalent of getting nothing for one's money.
I would suggest that you step away from the keyboard, at least from this thread.  This is a perfect example of a provider shooting himself in the foot because he has a strong opinion about something and won't just let the argument die.  I don't think your argumentative stance in this thread will win you any new clients and it very well might drive others away under the assumption that you aren't a reliable provider at best and perhaps someone who views his clients with contempt.

I’ve never treated any of the men I’ve hired as sex vending machines.  If you feel that you’ve been treated as one, maybe that’s because you’re treating your clients like an ATM.  
 
The top performing escorts who always deliver flawless service are those who don’t enter into the encounter thinking it’s going to fall apart.

If you have a good business reputation, deposits are fine.  It's just a way to ensure everyone is serious about the date, especially if it's for a longer engagement or involves complex travel arrangements.
While I don't like the response that Rose gave to the asshole would-be client, I understand where he's coming from.  
What he should have simply said is 'thank you for your message, have a great night' and blocked (or just ignored).
You cannot control what people say, but you can always control how you react.  Stay out of the mud.
 
 

I haven't tried Jim, Tin or Joshua as inquired about by OP.

My Dallas recommendations are

BrandonJ - high quality massage, very sensual, erotic beyond just HE - good looking, fit, skilled - don't let absence of a face pic stop you, he's just discreet b/c professional job
https://rentmasseur.com/BrandonJ

Tristan_James - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his skills, big muscles and hairy body add to the experience
https://rentmasseur.com/Tristan_James

Dann - hiqh quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - older yet still good looking, fit - is also an esthetician
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37362/

Joe - good quality massage, sensual, erotic beyond just HE - short, bit of a dad bod, skilled
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28120/

Jayden - good quality massage, sensual, erotic limited to HE - while erotic is limited, for me his giant muscles add to the experience
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36767/

All of the above are skilled, dependable, clean, sane, safe and easy to communicate with.

In principle, I would not be opposed to paying an "appointment confirmation fee" but, yeah, it's the logistics that introduce all kinds of problems: non-anonymous payment mechanisms; inconsistency as to whether the deposit is part of the appointment fee or on top of it; the actual amount of the deposit; no mechanism for when the provider does the ghosting... I will say that I have considered such a fee when the gent adds a caveat like "for first-time clients" because that seems both reasonable and responsible (and like it's not a hustle). But even then it's the anonymity of the payment mechanism that remains my primary sticking point.
And can you imagine how many fakers would glom onto "advance deposits" as their primary grift were they to become the norm?
 

Ok guys thanks for the tidbits. I had actually found urbanmonktherapy.com linked to his yelp page (which I found by googling his number).  The content posted there made me think Paul might be a welcome addition to the languishing Houston market ... legit MT who focuses on male massages.  However,  I'm going to pass on this one.  Seems he's more interested in potential hookups than providing the experience described on his site. Not opposed to a massage turning into more but that's not my main goal when hiring MTs.  I don't know why but the pre-emptive pic policing is a turn off for me, regardless of whether I make the cut.  

Maybe he drives super slow.

The single incall price and single outcall price on a RentMasseur profile is usually the base price for respective one hour.
I often find that masseurs on RentMasseur put additional pricing details in their ad text, usually under the “About Me” heading. The price often varies based on massage length and or type — such as non-erotic or erotic.
And those that specify base price as “Ask Me” are usually more of an escort than a masseur and usually don’t have any other pricing details. Many/most of these can also be found on escort site Rent.Men.

The single incall price and single outcall price on a RentMasseur profile is usually the base price for respective one hour.
I often find that masseurs on RentMasseur put additional pricing details in their ad text, usually under the “About Me” heading. The price often varies based on massage length and or type — such as non-erotic or erotic.
And those that specify base price as “Ask Me” are usually more of an escort than a masseur and usually don’t have any other pricing details. Many/most of these can also be found on escort site Rent.Men.

The single incall price and single outcall price on a RentMasseur profile is usually the base price for respective one hour.
I often find that masseurs on RentMasseur put additional pricing details in their ad text, usually under the “About Me” heading. The price often varies based on massage length and or type — such as non-erotic or erotic.
And those that specify base price as “Ask Me” are usually more of an escort than a masseur and usually don’t have any other pricing details. Many/most of these can also be found on escort site Rent.Men.

Thanks @BeefyDude and @Firestarter for taking a hit for the team. You saved me and likely others from spending money on these two. I hope Karma brings each of you an exceptionally delightful surprise in a future hire.

Sean is not straight. He is sexually attracted to men. His boyfriend is Grant/Hogan/DTX_guynectdoor and he is also an escort. Yes, boyfriend. A mutual friend confirmed this last year as they’ve been together for awhile.
 
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/dtx_guynectdoor-now-in-new-york.164663/#post-2115741
 
Sean was only doing erotic massage and had strict limits but he seems to have decided to go full service for those willing to pay. His bf Grant started out as escort and then tried massage after getting with Sean.

He’s changed his name several times over the past 15 plus years. Used to go by Chad, Gavin, Gavin Black, and others. I hired him in early 2000s in San Antonio and he he was in his 30s then. I didn’t repeat. His massage ad has pics that include his face.
 
https://rentmasseur.com/Smoothmuscle
 
I haven’t had a massage with him. Maybe he’s better at massage than he was at escorting. Good luck to you @bordeauxfan
 
Here’s a couple of old threads that mention him. Mixed reviews but feedback is more negative than positive.
 
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/chad-in-la.151398/#post-2023348
 
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-chad-visiting-nyc-from-ca.99488/#post-1546241

Re that same pic #3 — definitely not a pic of the guy in other photos — guy has dark hair, dark eyebrows and dark body hair — yet pic #3 shows body hair as very lite or blonde. Fake. At least that pic is not of him — would be great if the rest of the pics were accurate and he was just too shy/private to use his own dick pic and thought that one resembled his. Oh yah, that would be nice.