Monarchy79

You make an excellent point, and this further delves into the social aspect of human beings overall and how groups who are marginalized will marginalize the next group they believe is beneath them on the social “hierarchy”. 
Although gay men have endured a lot of marginalization, this community created its  own microcosm of internal discrimination to further continue this pathetic cycle. 
 
 

That may be a fact. 
But the truth is that out of the thousands of members on this site, there’s going to be someone who looks like that guy, is his weight, and has been insulted with such comments, and your posting is going to trigger their past trauma. 
 
I know how you roll, but I have a preference for forum posts that are honest, but also are less vitriolic. We endure enough of that outside of this forum in real life, so let’s try to be civil here and create a safe space for opinions and even debate. 

Agreed. 
and my opinion is that you’re mean. 
what’s the issue here? 

...fuckin' fabulous!  I am all yours!

It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings….
One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be:
1.) Young
2.) Fit
3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom.
4.) Masculine presenting 
5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. 
This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. 

Once  I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. 
 

It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings….
One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be:
1.) Young
2.) Fit
3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom.
4.) Masculine presenting 
5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. 
This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. 

Once  I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. 
 

Gay porno will never embrace body positivity for the same reason why body positivity has never been embraced in the gay community overall:
ALL Men are shallow.  This includes “victims” of body positivity. 
Men of all body types want the same range of physical aesthetics (lean, righted, muscled, athletic)  in a man and are very discerning about it too. 
Men in general (of all sexual orientations), have a sense of hipocrisy when it comes to the requirements they have for others’ appearance…. A straight man will judge women’s faces and bodies with hard  critiques as he hasn’t seen a gym since middle school and can’t find his penis because his apron beer belly has been obstructing it’s view for the past 20 years. 

And with gay men, it’s just about the same. I remember being in a social setting when this guy was whining about his inability to find a man….. when he told me what he was looking for, I figured out why he’s having problems…. He’s searching for 10s and he’s a universal 3 at best. 
 

Agreed. 
and my opinion is that you’re mean. 
what’s the issue here? 

These pharmaceutical companies have a demonic sense of humor. 
 
It seems like any drug that has a convenient benefit to the consumer always has terrible side effects.

I’m not “limp wristed” either. I’m more like “iron fisted”.
I’m the guy who:
1.) Shuts smart mouth “limp wrists” up, 
2.) Neutralizes cattiness
3.) Beats up bullies, and 
4.) Stops traffic to let a family of ducks walk by. 
 

Just because people agree with your antics doesn’t make it “just”. 
It just means that they are just like you. 
And any grown man who thinks it’s cute to crack fat jokes on someone, calling them such juvenile names as “whale of a man” leave a lot to be desired when it comes to class, maturity and overall decency. 
 
You may not proclaim yourself to be limp wristed, but if your comments could be personified;  a pink, patent-leathered Chanel purse would fall right out of your mouth… 
Now I am going to gift you the rare gift of having the last word, as I don’t want this forum to be closed by the moderator…. 
 
You’re Welcome. 
 

I’m not “limp wristed” either. I’m more like “iron fisted”.
I’m the guy who:
1.) Shuts smart mouth “limp wrists” up, 
2.) Neutralizes cattiness
3.) Beats up bullies, and 
4.) Stops traffic to let a family of ducks walk by. 
 

That may be a fact. 
But the truth is that out of the thousands of members on this site, there’s going to be someone who looks like that guy, is his weight, and has been insulted with such comments, and your posting is going to trigger their past trauma. 
 
I know how you roll, but I have a preference for forum posts that are honest, but also are less vitriolic. We endure enough of that outside of this forum in real life, so let’s try to be civil here and create a safe space for opinions and even debate. 

I respect what you call yourself, but from your posts, you are at least the “B” or “Q” in LGBTQ…. So you’re a member… lol…
And your quips, commentary, sharp responses may not be done with a “limp wrist”, but they are in -par with most gay men I’ve encountered. 
Futher, I never said anything bad about your comments. I clearly stated that your comments aren’t shocking or unexpected, and it’s the “normal” sentiment, in this community. 
And yes, you are “mean”, and we’ve debated about this before 😂
And you can’t help yourself, and you enjoy it. 
 

Your "truth" is in your head. Not mine.
Like I said ..the guy isn't on the site.
So no one should feel insulted.
You're reaching.

Just because people agree with your antics doesn’t make it “just”. 
It just means that they are just like you. 
And any grown man who thinks it’s cute to crack fat jokes on someone, calling them such juvenile names as “whale of a man” leave a lot to be desired when it comes to class, maturity and overall decency. 
 
You may not proclaim yourself to be limp wristed, but if your comments could be personified;  a pink, patent-leathered Chanel purse would fall right out of your mouth… 
Now I am going to gift you the rare gift of having the last word, as I don’t want this forum to be closed by the moderator…. 
 
You’re Welcome. 
 

That may be a fact. 
But the truth is that out of the thousands of members on this site, there’s going to be someone who looks like that guy, is his weight, and has been insulted with such comments, and your posting is going to trigger their past trauma. 
 
I know how you roll, but I have a preference for forum posts that are honest, but also are less vitriolic. We endure enough of that outside of this forum in real life, so let’s try to be civil here and create a safe space for opinions and even debate. 

Well...I'm not "gay" (maybe half)..so I don't speak for that community.
As far as "being mean". I'm pretty sure that obese whale of a human isnt here on the site.  So there is no one to be mean to. I am sharing an honest opinion on a forum designed to share opinions.  We aren't at a lady's tea party where I am restricted to complimenting your dress and talk about the weather. So my opinion stands.

I enjoy being myself. Always have.
Maybe the "limpwristed" crowd don't enjoy my frankness, but enough of the gentlemen here do...So I refute this accusation that any opinion about physical appearance on a site that frequently discusses physical appearance is "mean" if it's not pretending to be kind.
No victim/ no crime.

Agreed. 
and my opinion is that you’re mean. 
what’s the issue here? 

It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings….
One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be:
1.) Young
2.) Fit
3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom.
4.) Masculine presenting 
5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. 
This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. 

Once  I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. 
 

You make an excellent point, and this further delves into the social aspect of human beings overall and how groups who are marginalized will marginalize the next group they believe is beneath them on the social “hierarchy”. 
Although gay men have endured a lot of marginalization, this community created its  own microcosm of internal discrimination to further continue this pathetic cycle. 
 
 

It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings….
One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be:
1.) Young
2.) Fit
3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom.
4.) Masculine presenting 
5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. 
This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. 

Once  I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. 
 

What he  @pubic_assistancesaid reflects the actual reality of what gay men say to themselves and to each other when they see images like this. 
Hard Truth: Gay men (for the most part) are mean to each other. In fact, so mean, that there are tons of social media posts, Reddit threads and discussion points on the topic. 

Gay porno will never embrace body positivity for the same reason why body positivity has never been embraced in the gay community overall:
ALL Men are shallow.  This includes “victims” of body positivity. 
Men of all body types want the same range of physical aesthetics (lean, righted, muscled, athletic)  in a man and are very discerning about it too. 
Men in general (of all sexual orientations), have a sense of hipocrisy when it comes to the requirements they have for others’ appearance…. A straight man will judge women’s faces and bodies with hard  critiques as he hasn’t seen a gym since middle school and can’t find his penis because his apron beer belly has been obstructing it’s view for the past 20 years. 

And with gay men, it’s just about the same. I remember being in a social setting when this guy was whining about his inability to find a man….. when he told me what he was looking for, I figured out why he’s having problems…. He’s searching for 10s and he’s a universal 3 at best.