Drained Empty

These bullies are often self aggrandizing types that always need to get the last word in.
 
Their tactic is to send you a string of nasty PMs, then declare they are ignoring you as one final jab (and self aggrandizing move).
 
Unfortunately, there isn't a big valley between criticism and harrassment, only a thin line.

These bullies are often self aggrandizing types that always need to get the last word in.
 
Their tactic is to send you a string of nasty PMs, then declare they are ignoring you as one final jab (and self aggrandizing move).
 
Unfortunately, there isn't a big valley between criticism and harrassment, only a thin line.

Canyon Club is generally busier on the weekends, and from what I hear, also on Wednesdays, when they have discounted day passes.
 
Blackbook is a great bar/restaurant on Arenas; they recently celebrated their one-year anniversary there. I recommend their street tacos!
 
Rob

I'm in PS this weekend staying at one of the clothing optional resorts.
 
Would love recommendations on fun things to do and places to eat.
 
I already stopped by Canyon Club (had a few hours to kill before checking into my different resort) and it was pretty dead. I'm also pretty awful at initiating stuff lol.
 
Maybe I'll see some of you around!

Well there was definitely a straight guy that didn't mind some admiration earlier this week; his wife was getting a treatment on the women's side. Tall, blond and clean-cut.
 
Then during the same visit, a guy started doing yoga in the hot room, muscled, tattooed, and about six inches soft.
 
Saw him again today.
 
If anyone is up for a spa meeting, let me know.

For lack of a better description he "looked" and "dressed" straight.
 
Had a very muscular and heavily tattooed Latino at the Sherman Oaks location a few months back that also "looked" straight. But he was all about showing off his uncut member. Going there this weekend and looking for a facial of another kind lol.

Two out of my last three visits to Santa Monica I've had guys stroking in the steamroom.
 
One was straight and didn't want me to give him a hand, but he was very into watching me and shot an enormous load on himself.
 
I'll have to try Pasadena sometime.

I'm a member at Burke Williams Santa Monica and every visit there is at least one super hot guy there.
 
Yesterday was no exception: a beautiful tan and toned guy who was very hung, and a dancer from Sweden I struck up a conversation with.
 
Oh, not to mention the four-way jerk fest in the steam room. But that's only happened once before. It's usually more miss than hit, but I've had a few hot sessions.
 
Maybe we should try to meet up sometime.

I've never seen such enthusiastic support for one provider!
 
He's so lucky to have such an ardent fan.
 
Doesn't seem to busy though as his profile has been toggled "available now" all weekend.
 
Maybe you can have brunch and do some shopping with him and see a movie since he's so free.

Perhaps try framing it like nycnsa did and stating what you ARE looking for instead of putting down an entire race.
 
If you want a masseur that you know you're attracted to why don't you use MF or RM and that way you can pick and choose.
 
Even if you go to a facility with non-Asian therapists, unless you book an appointment specifically you may (gasp!) end up with one due to scheduling conflicts (he's with another client, it's his day off), etc.
 
God forbid we wouldn't want you to be subjected to being near an Asian if you don't like them

Perhaps try framing it like nycnsa did and stating what you ARE looking for instead of putting down an entire race.
 
If you want a masseur that you know you're attracted to why don't you use MF or RM and that way you can pick and choose.
 
Even if you go to a facility with non-Asian therapists, unless you book an appointment specifically you may (gasp!) end up with one due to scheduling conflicts (he's with another client, it's his day off), etc.
 
God forbid we wouldn't want you to be subjected to being near an Asian if you don't like them

Perhaps try framing it like nycnsa did and stating what you ARE looking for instead of putting down an entire race.
 
If you want a masseur that you know you're attracted to why don't you use MF or RM and that way you can pick and choose.
 
Even if you go to a facility with non-Asian therapists, unless you book an appointment specifically you may (gasp!) end up with one due to scheduling conflicts (he's with another client, it's his day off), etc.
 
God forbid we wouldn't want you to be subjected to being near an Asian if you don't like them

You beat me to this.
 
20 minutes of rushed Chipotle "dining" and you're going to incur some other penalties during "private time."
 
Especially if one orders the sofritas.

You beat me to this.
 
20 minutes of rushed Chipotle "dining" and you're going to incur some other penalties during "private time."
 
Especially if one orders the sofritas.

Just do the Chipotle part of the evening at the end. All those onions and beans could prove problematic.

Well if your going for the best products that aren’t that expensive look for Korean brands. Korean beauty products are light years ahead of our own beauty products
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/opinion/sunday/korean-beauty-products-america.html

I don't think that is Korean.

I don't think that is Korean.

I don't think that is Korean.

I don't think that is Korean.

Great, good for you both.
 
I generally don't like rejection/offending. If I'm at the spa and a guy walks out when I enter, I avoid going into the room he's in. If I'm at the gym and inadvertently lock eyes with a guy who's not into "my type," I make sure I don't work out near him or enter the locker room while he's there lest he thinks I'm stalking him.
 
Let's face it. A lot of guys aren't into Asians (Asians included). A lot of Asians don't do other Asians any favors by acting a fool or throwing themselves at white guys. I purposely don't act that way.
 
I see some providers at the gym or around town. They hang out with guys that look like them and move/shoo away guys that don't. I know they're doing a job, but if a provider isn't into "my type" I don't want him to be miserable nor do I want to feel undesirable or miserable. So I don't hire them. And I always let them know my race ahead of time.
 
Yes, you can tell from one look if someone is cool with you/being in their presence or not. It happens all the time. I remember one visit to Midtown (a local sex club), one white guy actual stuck his hand in my face (the way you would if someone where pointing a gun at you) and waved NO. Keep in mind I didn't know him, didn't get close to him, I was just walking in his general direction. That reaction really stayed with me and made me feel really worthless. I don't want to feel that way again so if I can avoid it I do.
 
Oh and jdjd46, don't criticize me for making assumptions when you did the exact same thing.

Well that makes sense. Thanks.

looking for a professional massage. What is a good reco? Burke Williams, exhale? Or is there a guy on masseur finder who is a good goto?
 
Thanks guys.

Had an strictly therapeutic very chatty massage with him. Not sure I'd repeat.

Just a reminder that Grant does not take (or begrudgingly takes) massage clients of size or color (Asian in particular).