Kris_Canada

And nowadays with the Grindr fatigue many young(er) truly in good shape men are hiring even if they are only an open relationship.

I remember how startled I was when an escort said he liked my kissing and was tired of so many clients immediately trying to eat his face. It’s been said that the best cock sucking is by one who is making love to the cock. Not chowing down, but starting out gently with lips caressing. Same goes for lip kissing.

One piece of advice for both escorts and clients: You may or may not be the best kisser, but do this beforehand--antiseptic mouthwash, so that your breath is fresh. A lot of guys don't follow this basic prep.

I always get nervous when I read something like this. How do I know whether I am a "good" kisser or not? It seems that kissing is sort of an ebb and flow sort of thing. I may not feel open and comfortable in the beginning but see how the other person does it. Then I adapt to what they do. I have a feeling they do the same thing so that we come to some sort of kissing compromise. But I don't know. It really is the thing that I am the most apprehensive about. Much more than sticking a cock in my mouth.

@hypothetically . Make sense it's hard to enjoy kissing when the other person not good at it. Plus I know alot of clients dont like to kiss maybe that's why alot of escorts dont kiss.
 
I talked to a escort yesterday. He told me he doesnt kiss. His clients dont ask to kiss just sex. Even though I feel like kissing is part of sex lol

It varies greatly from escort to escort. I personally enjoy kissing and always communicate “kissing is a must.” But truthfully, most of my clients cannot kiss and then I just feel like I’m being eaten. And that’s no fun.

@liubit right kissing is just an aphrodisiac for me lol.
 
Do you meet any escorts who are not open to kissing from the start,but if they are comfortable with you they will kiss?
 
Cause there are some guys who are nice,have a nice ass,but only kiss if they are comfortable with a client. Which makes me nervous that we meet and there is no kissing.

I am with you, @Choclate Cub. In my book, no kissing, no hiring.

I was wondering what are the stipulation for kissing for you guys?
 
I know some escorts dont do it at all,some dont mind kissing,and others are open to kissing after getting comfortable with a client.
 
I was just wondering cause kissing is a big one for me. I have a hard time maintaining a hard on with out kissing.

When I first meet an escort I like to have a brief chat that is open and honest. I hire based on rent men profile. If in our chat it appears I am not going to get want I am willing to pay for, I cant imagine an escort would want to proceed. Only once did I get a surprise: The escort stated up front, "I've got a really big cock." But that didn't become a deal breaker.

I did walk all the areas mentioned in this thread one night, just for fun, from about midnight until 2am. Even got some hankies (the blue one that signifies "top" and the green one that signifies "hustler") and hung 'em out my back pocket, for anyone who knows what the handkerchief code is (wiki it). I dunno how many people still recognize it, I did it more for the novelty of it, for my own self-amusement, than anything else.
 
This was a few weeks back, I think it was a Friday or Saturday when I tried. No luck, heh. Went up Church Street/The Village of course, as well. Spotted an acquiantance (who's a stripper at Remingtons) coming back from work, walked with him for a bit and caught up. We got stopped by a few guys that he knows, but no one wanted to have us back to their place for a paid session, they were nearing the end of their nights and saying goodbyes to friends outside of the clubs and had probably already gotten laid or were simply out for a night of drinks and laughs (I'm not personally into much of the Village's scene -- can't dance, but I can fuck, hah -- but I enjoy it peripherally from time to time).
 
It was a thrill to walk around specifically on the prowl for potential clients. Bit of danger to it. I'd have to think on my feet if someone picked me up in their car (text my fellow escort/safety-buddy what kind of car I was getting into, plate, plus address if client provided it).
 
Made sure to make eye contact with everyone I passed. Throw a smile/smirk (that ain't a put-on, since I'm pretty friendly in general, but making sure to do it for nearly everyone you pass becomes intentional).
 
I'll try it again some day, if I'm feeling restless and adventurous some hot summer night.
 
I wonder if you can go to places like Statlers (piano bar), Pegasus, Woody's, or The Eagle (the only Church Street bar I just haven't gotten around to going into yet, though me and a friend waited in line one night for 45 minutes before giving up) and have much of a chance of picking up. I see people on here talking about hanging around the bars/lounges in high end hotels as well, though that seems to be a technique employed less and less.

How old do you think I look ?
 
I'm 36, but play younger on TV. Info's in my RM profile.

NICE compromise, I like it.
 
One time a client asked me how many times I'm able to cum in an hour (he only wanted or perhaps could only afford a 1-hour session), I said 2 to 3 times within an hour (maybe I could do more, but that's the amount I know I can put out, so better not to raise expectations beyond a reasonable level). We were enjoying ourselves to the extent that we went past session time and I hadn't gotten off that third time yet. Wanted to make him happy, it's hot for me to give ya what you're craving (and the more times I cum, the better and deeper that post-session nap ends up being, so advantage both of us), so we went over by 20 or 30 minutes in order to do another full fuck session (to be fair, in this instance the first ejaculation was fucking and the second was us lazying around on our backs and touching and jacking each other off).
 
Escort might not wanna refund any of what he's been paid at the start of the session, but if things don't go as planned for whatever reason, one way to make it up to the client instead of partial refund is with a bit of extra time (if the client is receptive to this and the escort doesn't have another appointment he's gotta get to -- shouldn't book things hour-to-hour anyway, IMO). You can always bargain with extra time and fulfill expectations within that extension. Doesn't work if your client is a businessman on his strict 1-hour lunch break, but with everyone else, it's a possible save.
 
What another forum member said up above, about it being time to retire if you can't get it up and how you should use Viagara or Cialis if you can't get and maintain an erection with every client...to each his own, but if I have to start taking a drug just to do a job, it's quitting time. If/when this happens, though, I'll look up the pros and cons (potential side effects or any documented effects of longterm use) before I take a hard line against them, to be fair. I dunno, I'm sort of a health nut, to a degree (unless I'm being taken out to eat, then all bets are off). There was talk about wanting drug-free escorts earlier who aren't burnt out after a weekend of partying ? This is gonna make me more appealing to some and seem like a lot less fun to others, but completely drug-free here. No PnP. Guaranteed. I'm smoke-sensitive, I can't even share a joint with ya.

Prefer to know (out of curiosity, if nothing else), but wouldn't expect the client to tell me why. Probably wouldn't enquire as to why if we're talking cancellation-after-much-communication, unless some planning went into it and/or they were a regular who suddenly soured on me. But sure, feedback can only help. You can't offend me, so say whatever you like.
 
I understand folks are shopping around.

How old do you think I look ?
 
I'm 36, but play younger on TV. Info's in my RM profile.

Grrr, I love doing this to a guy. Already got him moanin' and groanin' while I'm poundin' him and then if the mood strikes, to grab one of his feet and start licking and sucking and kissing and worshipping (while also using that grabbing hand to massage at the same time) while continuing to nail him...just...new heights of pleasure for him and me. The ultimate.
 
Ya gotta clip those toenails, though. Hard on my teeth and mouth, otherwise. Not into that kind of punishment, heh.

Grrr, I love doing this to a guy. Already got him moanin' and groanin' while I'm poundin' him and then if the mood strikes, to grab one of his feet and start licking and sucking and kissing and worshipping (while also using that grabbing hand to massage at the same time) while continuing to nail him...just...new heights of pleasure for him and me. The ultimate.
 
Ya gotta clip those toenails, though. Hard on my teeth and mouth, otherwise. Not into that kind of punishment, heh.

I did walk all the areas mentioned in this thread one night, just for fun, from about midnight until 2am. Even got some hankies (the blue one that signifies "top" and the green one that signifies "hustler") and hung 'em out my back pocket, for anyone who knows what the handkerchief code is (wiki it). I dunno how many people still recognize it, I did it more for the novelty of it, for my own self-amusement, than anything else.
 
This was a few weeks back, I think it was a Friday or Saturday when I tried. No luck, heh. Went up Church Street/The Village of course, as well. Spotted an acquiantance (who's a stripper at Remingtons) coming back from work, walked with him for a bit and caught up. We got stopped by a few guys that he knows, but no one wanted to have us back to their place for a paid session, they were nearing the end of their nights and saying goodbyes to friends outside of the clubs and had probably already gotten laid or were simply out for a night of drinks and laughs (I'm not personally into much of the Village's scene -- can't dance, but I can fuck, hah -- but I enjoy it peripherally from time to time).
 
It was a thrill to walk around specifically on the prowl for potential clients. Bit of danger to it. I'd have to think on my feet if someone picked me up in their car (text my fellow escort/safety-buddy what kind of car I was getting into, plate, plus address if client provided it).
 
Made sure to make eye contact with everyone I passed. Throw a smile/smirk (that ain't a put-on, since I'm pretty friendly in general, but making sure to do it for nearly everyone you pass becomes intentional).
 
I'll try it again some day, if I'm feeling restless and adventurous some hot summer night.
 
I wonder if you can go to places like Statlers (piano bar), Pegasus, Woody's, or The Eagle (the only Church Street bar I just haven't gotten around to going into yet, though me and a friend waited in line one night for 45 minutes before giving up) and have much of a chance of picking up. I see people on here talking about hanging around the bars/lounges in high end hotels as well, though that seems to be a technique employed less and less.

I did walk all the areas mentioned in this thread one night, just for fun, from about midnight until 2am. Even got some hankies (the blue one that signifies "top" and the green one that signifies "hustler") and hung 'em out my back pocket, for anyone who knows what the handkerchief code is (wiki it). I dunno how many people still recognize it, I did it more for the novelty of it, for my own self-amusement, than anything else.
 
This was a few weeks back, I think it was a Friday or Saturday when I tried. No luck, heh. Went up Church Street/The Village of course, as well. Spotted an acquiantance (who's a stripper at Remingtons) coming back from work, walked with him for a bit and caught up. We got stopped by a few guys that he knows, but no one wanted to have us back to their place for a paid session, they were nearing the end of their nights and saying goodbyes to friends outside of the clubs and had probably already gotten laid or were simply out for a night of drinks and laughs (I'm not personally into much of the Village's scene -- can't dance, but I can fuck, hah -- but I enjoy it peripherally from time to time).
 
It was a thrill to walk around specifically on the prowl for potential clients. Bit of danger to it. I'd have to think on my feet if someone picked me up in their car (text my fellow escort/safety-buddy what kind of car I was getting into, plate, plus address if client provided it).
 
Made sure to make eye contact with everyone I passed. Throw a smile/smirk (that ain't a put-on, since I'm pretty friendly in general, but making sure to do it for nearly everyone you pass becomes intentional).
 
I'll try it again some day, if I'm feeling restless and adventurous some hot summer night.
 
I wonder if you can go to places like Statlers (piano bar), Pegasus, Woody's, or The Eagle (the only Church Street bar I just haven't gotten around to going into yet, though me and a friend waited in line one night for 45 minutes before giving up) and have much of a chance of picking up. I see people on here talking about hanging around the bars/lounges in high end hotels as well, though that seems to be a technique employed less and less.

Grrr, I love doing this to a guy. Already got him moanin' and groanin' while I'm poundin' him and then if the mood strikes, to grab one of his feet and start licking and sucking and kissing and worshipping (while also using that grabbing hand to massage at the same time) while continuing to nail him...just...new heights of pleasure for him and me. The ultimate.
 
Ya gotta clip those toenails, though. Hard on my teeth and mouth, otherwise. Not into that kind of punishment, heh.

Grrr, I love doing this to a guy. Already got him moanin' and groanin' while I'm poundin' him and then if the mood strikes, to grab one of his feet and start licking and sucking and kissing and worshipping (while also using that grabbing hand to massage at the same time) while continuing to nail him...just...new heights of pleasure for him and me. The ultimate.
 
Ya gotta clip those toenails, though. Hard on my teeth and mouth, otherwise. Not into that kind of punishment, heh.

I did walk all the areas mentioned in this thread one night, just for fun, from about midnight until 2am. Even got some hankies (the blue one that signifies "top" and the green one that signifies "hustler") and hung 'em out my back pocket, for anyone who knows what the handkerchief code is (wiki it). I dunno how many people still recognize it, I did it more for the novelty of it, for my own self-amusement, than anything else.
 
This was a few weeks back, I think it was a Friday or Saturday when I tried. No luck, heh. Went up Church Street/The Village of course, as well. Spotted an acquiantance (who's a stripper at Remingtons) coming back from work, walked with him for a bit and caught up. We got stopped by a few guys that he knows, but no one wanted to have us back to their place for a paid session, they were nearing the end of their nights and saying goodbyes to friends outside of the clubs and had probably already gotten laid or were simply out for a night of drinks and laughs (I'm not personally into much of the Village's scene -- can't dance, but I can fuck, hah -- but I enjoy it peripherally from time to time).
 
It was a thrill to walk around specifically on the prowl for potential clients. Bit of danger to it. I'd have to think on my feet if someone picked me up in their car (text my fellow escort/safety-buddy what kind of car I was getting into, plate, plus address if client provided it).
 
Made sure to make eye contact with everyone I passed. Throw a smile/smirk (that ain't a put-on, since I'm pretty friendly in general, but making sure to do it for nearly everyone you pass becomes intentional).
 
I'll try it again some day, if I'm feeling restless and adventurous some hot summer night.
 
I wonder if you can go to places like Statlers (piano bar), Pegasus, Woody's, or The Eagle (the only Church Street bar I just haven't gotten around to going into yet, though me and a friend waited in line one night for 45 minutes before giving up) and have much of a chance of picking up. I see people on here talking about hanging around the bars/lounges in high end hotels as well, though that seems to be a technique employed less and less.

I went to school in Toronto and Breadalbane St near the university was notorious for hustlers. Wish I had more pocket money at the time.

Off topic, since I was a wee lad I can remember travelling through the village of Breadalbane in the NSW southern tablelands, but had never thought to check on the origin of the name. Turns out it's in the Scottish highlands and amongst other things it is the name of a street in Toronto and one in Hamilton in Ontario.

Like @Kris_Canada said, there has been very little discussion of where to spot hustlers in Toronto. Years ago when I lived There, a bar on T
Yonge called Sneakers was generally regarded as a hustler bar. There were always a number of great looking guys willing to strike a deal to go home with you. But the bar no longer exists.
My suspicion is that Craigslist and Back Page ended the run. It was easier to answer an ad than take the chance of being spotted in a notorious joint especially if one was leading a double life.
Unfortunately CL and BP don' seem to recognize a border line and follow American law shutting down their personal ads.
Will this lead to the revival of hustler bars in Toronto. Let's hope so!