Guys who can't perform

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

A prayer before I begin writing this post:

Dear sweet baby Jebus and all of the angels in escort heaven, Please watch over this thread and protect it from devolving into random rants and basic ass bitchslap fights that go on for years and have nothing to do with the original query. Gaymen

 

So, what I wanna know is how do you handle a provider who can't get hard, stay hard or have an orgasm when you're with them?

I've been with providers ( in this case, mostly gay for pay dudes) who brag in their profiles how hung they are, but couldn't even get it up. Some who could get it up but only for a moment. Or other guys who couldn't cross the finish line and were unable to get off. This was AFTER my specifying what I wanted (which generally requires them having an erection and an orgasm) and AFTER them telling me "yeah I can do that".

I totally get that YMMV and that it's a matter of chemistry.

But my stance is, if I am ponying up $250+ and you've ALREADY told me you can do what I've requested, and then you're unable to deliver, then I shouldn't be required to pay the full rate. Or is it just "buyer beware" and I'm out of luck?

I understand the delicacy of this industry and that these guys are real people with lives outside of what they do in this context. I don't expect a mindless robot who blindly obeys my commands. Yet when I am paying out a premium I expect to get what I was promised. Seems to me that if a provider is making promises that they can't deliver on, then its on them to make it right. Especially since its been explicitly confirmed that they can and will do what you're asking for.

These aren't fly by night catfish dimestore hookers either. These are guys who have been discussed at GREAT length in many threads on here and have quite a few people regularly gagging (no pun intended) on how hot, great, amazing they are. Men who also charge a hefty chunk of change for the honor of being in their flaccid presence. I am not trying to play with what amounts to a handful of silly putty. If you can't get it up, take a pill or take the day off. If you're really that uninterested in doing what you've previously said you would do then either take an acting class and learn how to fake it, or stop making promises that you're unable to deliver on.

/end rant/

[+ freecahill1965]

A prayer before I begin writing this post:

Dear sweet baby Jebus and all of the angels in escort heaven, Please watch over this thread and protect it from devolving into random rants and basic ass bitchslap fights that go on for years and have nothing to do with the original query. In your gay I pray, Gaymen

 

So, what I wanna know is how do you handle a provider who can't get hard, stay hard or have an orgasm when you're with them?

I've been with providers (mostly gay for pay dudes) who brag in their profiles how hung they are, but couldn't even get it up. Some who could get it up but only for a moment. Or other guys who couldn't cross the finish line and were unable to get off. This was AFTER my specifying what I wanted (which generally requires them having an erection and an orgasm) and AFTER them telling me "yeah I can do that".

I totally get that YMMV and that it's a matter of chemistry.

But my stance is, if I am ponying up $250+ and you've ALREADY told me you can do what I've requested, and then you're unable to deliver, then I shouldn't be required to pay the full rate. Or is it just "buyer beware" and I'm out of luck?

I understand the delicacy of this industry and that these guys are real people with lives outside of what they do in this context. I don't expect a mindless robot who blindly obeys my commands. Yet when I am paying out a premium I expect to get what I was promised. Seems to me that if a provider is making promises that they can't deliver on, then its on them to make it right. Especially since its been explicitly confirmed that they can and will do what you're asking for.

These aren't fly by night catfish dimestore hookers either. These are guys who have been discussed at GREAT length in many threads on here and have quite a few people regularly gagging (no pun intended) on how hot, great, amazing they are. Men who also charge a hefty chunk of change for the honor of being in their flaccid presence. I am not trying to play with what amounts to a handful of silly putty. If you can't get it up, take a pill or take the day off. If you're really that uninterested in doing what you've previously said you would do then either take an acting class and learn how to fake it, or stop making promises that you're unable to deliver on.

/end rant/

I can't say that has ever happened to me. Would you say this has happened to all age ranges. I usually hire 25 and under. They are mostly 20-22. They tend to be able to maintain I am sure because of their youth. Just curious as to your experience!

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

I can't say that has ever happened to me. Would you say this has happened to all age ranges. I usually hire 25 and under. They are mostly 20-22. They tend to be able to maintain I am sure because of their youth. Just curious as to your experience!

 

I realize that the tone of my post might give the impression that this ALWAYS happens with every guy I hire. LOL. Not the case.

I am speaking specifically of a few dates with high profile guys. I generally always hire 30 and under so age shouldn't be the issue. It might be the "gear" that many of these guys take to stay hugely ripped and shredded. That can sometimes cause issues. But even then, there's a pill for that

[N13]

If they can't perform why should they be paid? An erection is an absolutely expected part of the encounter.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

If they can't perform why should they be paid? An erection is an absolutely expected part of the encounter.

I agree! I assumed so too, but apparently it's not the case. I mean, do I now also have to specifically ask when contacting a provider that they can indeed get hard, stay hard, and get off? Sheesh! It's like a fricking spread sheet of questions I have to ask just to confirm that the basic requirements can and will be met.

[MartyB]

A prayer before I begin writing this post:

Dear sweet baby Jebus and all of the angels in escort heaven, Please watch over this thread and protect it from devolving into random rants and basic ass bitchslap fights that go on for years and have nothing to do with the original query. In your gay I pray, Gaymen

 

So, what I wanna know is how do you handle a provider who can't get hard, stay hard or have an orgasm when you're with them?

I've been with providers ( in this case, mostly gay for pay dudes) who brag in their profiles how hung they are, but couldn't even get it up. Some who could get it up but only for a moment. Or other guys who couldn't cross the finish line and were unable to get off. This was AFTER my specifying what I wanted (which generally requires them having an erection and an orgasm) and AFTER them telling me "yeah I can do that".

I totally get that YMMV and that it's a matter of chemistry.

But my stance is, if I am ponying up $250+ and you've ALREADY told me you can do what I've requested, and then you're unable to deliver, then I shouldn't be required to pay the full rate. Or is it just "buyer beware" and I'm out of luck?

I understand the delicacy of this industry and that these guys are real people with lives outside of what they do in this context. I don't expect a mindless robot who blindly obeys my commands. Yet when I am paying out a premium I expect to get what I was promised. Seems to me that if a provider is making promises that they can't deliver on, then its on them to make it right. Especially since its been explicitly confirmed that they can and will do what you're asking for.

These aren't fly by night catfish dimestore hookers either. These are guys who have been discussed at GREAT length in many threads on here and have quite a few people regularly gagging (no pun intended) on how hot, great, amazing they are. Men who also charge a hefty chunk of change for the honor of being in their flaccid presence. I am not trying to play with what amounts to a handful of silly putty. If you can't get it up, take a pill or take the day off. If you're really that uninterested in doing what you've previously said you would do then either take an acting class and learn how to fake it, or stop making promises that you're unable to deliver on.

/end rant/

On Friday I had the first experience where an escort could not perform. He tried but for me off through other means but could not top me and he did exaggerate his dick size as well. Nice guy but won't repeat. I guess I've been lucky or maybe it was chemistry. He did apologize later .

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

On Friday I had the first experience where an escort could not perform. He tried but for me off through other means but could not top me and he did exaggerate his dick size as well. Nice guy but won't repeat. I guess I've been lucky or maybe it was chemistry. He did apologize later .

I just had this happen a couple of nights ago and so that's why I bring it up now. I didn't say anything at the time and so I didn't expect anything because I didn't speak up. Today however I am thinking that if and when it happens again that I will say something. Mostly I just want to get feedback on what other's have done. Maybe I should have posted this in Ask an Escort, because I genuinely would love to know how to approach this subject with a provider.

[OccassionalHire]

If the guy is supposed to bottom, I am not sure I care that much if they are hard the whole time. But if they are supposed to top, it's an issue. I cannot say that I am 100% reliable on this front (but then I am not the one being paid).

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

If the guy is supposed to bottom, I am not sure I care that much if they are hard the whole time. But if they are supposed to top, it's an issue. I cannot say that I am 100% reliable on this front (but then I am not the one being paid).

I've done straight muscle worship sessions where I wasn't interested in whether or not they had a hard on since that's not what I was hiring for. So, if I was topping, I don't think I'd mind if they got fully hard or not. But yeah, when a hard-on is part of the package, it's pretty significant when that doesn't happen

[N13]

On Friday I had the first experience where an escort could not perform. He tried but for me off through other means but could not top me and he did exaggerate his dick size as well. Nice guy but won't repeat. I guess I've been lucky or maybe it was chemistry. He did apologize later .

 

Did his apology include a refund or rate reduction?

[+ freecahill1965]

I realize that the tone of my post might give the impression that this ALWAYS happens with every guy I hire. LOL. Not the case.

I am speaking specifically of a few dates with high profile guys. I generally always hire 30 and under so age shouldn't be the issue. It might be the "gear" that many of these guys take to stay hugely ripped and shredded. That can sometimes cause issues. But even then, there's a pill for that

I agree. You for sure should put a similar question up on ask an escort. They should be able to give you some rock hard advice.

[N13]

I agree. You for sure should put a similar question up on ask an escort. They should be able to give you some rock hard advice.

 

I just put the question on "Ask an Escort"

[Yeahman]

I hired a guy in 2010 when he was only 24. He got really hard, but didn’t cum and wanted to leave. I hired him again in 2013. Not easy to get him hard. He did reach orgasm and said he cummed, but I didn’t feel any cum in my mouth. Then I hired him again in 2016, he could not get hard. Then last year I hired him and his gf and watched them fuck. His cock was semi hard fucking his gf. He did cum inside her, cock still semi hard like those we sometimes see in porn movies. Kinda disappointed. Really handsome dude. But i am disappointed at his cock. Not sure why. Makes me think he can’t get truly hard after 25 years old.

[MartyB]

Did his apology include a refund or rate reduction?

No he did not. I felt he did give his best.

[N13]

No he did not. I felt he did give his best.

 

Wouldn't his best have been what was contracted for. If his best was acceptable shouldn't half his fee have been acceptable as your best? There seems to be a double standard here.

[caliguy]

A prayer before I begin writing this post:

Dear sweet baby Jebus and all of the angels in escort heaven, Please watch over this thread and protect it from devolving into random rants and basic ass bitchslap fights that go on for years and have nothing to do with the original query. Gaymen

 

So, what I wanna know is how do you handle a provider who can't get hard, stay hard or have an orgasm when you're with them?

I've been with providers ( in this case, mostly gay for pay dudes) who brag in their profiles how hung they are, but couldn't even get it up. Some who could get it up but only for a moment. Or other guys who couldn't cross the finish line and were unable to get off. This was AFTER my specifying what I wanted (which generally requires them having an erection and an orgasm) and AFTER them telling me "yeah I can do that".

I totally get that YMMV and that it's a matter of chemistry.

But my stance is, if I am ponying up $250+ and you've ALREADY told me you can do what I've requested, and then you're unable to deliver, then I shouldn't be required to pay the full rate. Or is it just "buyer beware" and I'm out of luck?

I understand the delicacy of this industry and that these guys are real people with lives outside of what they do in this context. I don't expect a mindless robot who blindly obeys my commands. Yet when I am paying out a premium I expect to get what I was promised. Seems to me that if a provider is making promises that they can't deliver on, then its on them to make it right. Especially since its been explicitly confirmed that they can and will do what you're asking for.

These aren't fly by night catfish dimestore hookers either. These are guys who have been discussed at GREAT length in many threads on here and have quite a few people regularly gagging (no pun intended) on how hot, great, amazing they are. Men who also charge a hefty chunk of change for the honor of being in their flaccid presence. I am not trying to play with what amounts to a handful of silly putty. If you can't get it up, take a pill or take the day off. If you're really that uninterested in doing what you've previously said you would do then either take an acting class and learn how to fake it, or stop making promises that you're unable to deliver on.

/end rant/

This is why I defend the escorts here that post their limits. Age, race, weight, etc. You get a guy who doesn't give a shit other the how much you got then you'll get the experience you deserve. That or some that just think putting the quarter in the machine and expect the dancing monkey. Not thinking that maybe those other reviews had something you didn't. Lastly, maybe everything was right but you just caught them on a bad day. Not much you can do about that. That shouldn't be a continuing problem though.

[caliguy]

I can't say that has ever happened to me. Would you say this has happened to all age ranges. I usually hire 25 and under. They are mostly 20-22. They tend to be able to maintain I am sure because of their youth. Just curious as to your experience!

As long as their into old men. At least from that age. Lol

[N13]

This is why I defend the escorts here that post their limits. Age, race, weight, etc. You get a guy who doesn't give a shit other the how much you got then you'll get the experience you deserve. That or some that just think putting the quarter in the machine and expect the dancing monkey. Not thinking that maybe those other reviews had something you didn't. Lastly, maybe everything was right but you just caught them on a bad day. Not much you can do about that. That shouldn't be a continuing problem though.

 

As long as you pay attention to their limits why should YOU have to pay for their not living up to what they say they are?

[caliguy]

As long as you pay attention to their limits why should YOU have to pay for their not living up to what they say they are?

Ha. This is why selecting my exact quote helps. I'm kind of befuddled where I said you should have to pay no matter what.

 

However, if the experience is as bad as the OP described then you shouldn't pay full price. Not being able to get hard should be a deal breaker. Not cumming shouldn't be a deal breaker unless it was specifically asked for.

[MartyB]

Wouldn't his best have been what was contracted for. If his best was acceptable shouldn't half his fee have been acceptable as your best? There seems to be a double standard here.

I don't think this was a black and white case. This escort had really good reviews both on this site and rentmen. If I felt he was just going through the motions or was trying to take advantage I would have stood my ground and paid him accordingly. In this case I thought I did the appropriate thing. He did provide a lot of erotic elements and I certainly took advantage of him. I would not use him again.

[Chuckball]

I think a lot of it depends on how well you know the escort. One escort I know has been a regular call for over a year. We have developed a friendhip as well as a business relationship. On two occasions now neither of us has cum. But the time spent was so intimate and intellectually stimulating that I feel like I got my money's worth. If I didn't know the guy or if the hire was simply for a particular sexual act and the escort broke his promise of performance, there is good reason to reduce payment. I know it is advertised that money is for time spent only but if a new escort takes that position he should expect no return visits.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

I think a lot of it depends on how well you know the escort. One escort I know has been a regular call for over a year. We have developed a friendhip as well as a business relationship. On two occasions now neither of us has cum. But the time spent was so intimate and intellectually stimulating that I feel like I got my money's worth. If I didn't know the guy or if the hire was simply for a particular sexual act and the escort broke his promise of performance, there is good reason to reduce payment. I know it is advertised that money is for time spent only but if a new escort takes that position he should expect no return visits.

Agreed. There have been times where the "other stuff" we did in the session more than made up for anything that didn't go as planned. The experiences I spoke of here were very specific requests with guys I had never been with before that I pretty explicitly outlined. I'm really grateful for this forum! Not only has it helped me avoid being burned numerous times, it's really nice to hear of other's experiences. Thank you!

[josh282282]

A true "professional" can keep an erection when asked. One to two experiences with not being able to top with his client (one would think) would instruct any real professional to be prepared next time and get Viagra (or Cialis or Levitra) and have handy when necessary. Age, body size, looks of the client has nothing to do with giving an escort a pass on maintaining an erection. If the escort has difficulty with a consistent erection, they shouldn't be in the business of prostitution (or at least not advertising their penis size or that they top).

 

 

FOR THE PROVIDERS READING THIS: Viagra, although expensive here in the US, is quite cheap from a Canadian pharmacy. First, go to your primary care doctor get a prescription for Viagra. Simply tell him/her that although young and seemingly shouldn't have this problem, once the condom goes on you lose sensitivity and lose the erection. Physicians (like me) prescribe Viagra for this problem all the time. Then find an online Canadian pharmacy where you will set up an account, and scan and email your prescription. They will mail you the medication and you're set to perform within 15-30 minutes as the onset of action of Viagra is just about that time. Twenty four 50 mg pills costs $53.39. That's $2.23/pill (yes, I looked it up on the online pharmacy website). Small overhead cost given you are being paid between $200-$300/hr. Just like you, I'm a professional and I'm expected to have my tools, my skills, my fund of knowledge and compassion ready when I am standing before my patient. And I assure you that I'm ready and prepared to meet my patients needs. You be ready, too, when being paid to perform. Otherwise, I'm having a challenging time calling you a professional but rather a joker.

 

Here is the link to one Canadian pharmacy I have sent my patients to (yes, I'm a physician). I have never had a patient report to me a bad experience with this pharmacy.

https://www.northwestpharmacy.com

 

 

ALL my love to the professional escorts out there. You are very much loved and appreciated.

Edited May 21, 2018 by josh282282

[sexymonk]

I realize that the tone of my post might give the impression that this ALWAYS happens with every guy I hire. LOL. Not the case.

I am speaking specifically of a few dates with high profile guys. I generally always hire 30 and under so age shouldn't be the issue. It might be the "gear" that many of these guys take to stay hugely ripped and shredded. That can sometimes cause issues. But even then, there's a pill for that

I agree with you. Most of these guys take pills or Aas steroid to look shredded and that can cause the erection problem. Also, another thing is to note that it is impossible to maintain libido at high each day and time! Sometimes the irregular sleep pattern may affect erection and most of these guys due to this service industry have irregular sleep pattern. Accept or not another part is chemistry! That plays huge role in erection, maintaining erection. I do understand these things and it is better to get confirmation from the provider if they can deliver what they say! Atleast money can't build up the libido for erection and chemistry!

Edited May 20, 2018 by sexymonk

[caliguy]

A true "professional" can keep an erection when asked. One to two experiences with not being able to top with his client (one would think) would instruct any real professional to be prepared next time and get Viagra (or Cialis or Levitra) and have handy when necessary. Age, body size, looks of the client has nothing to do with giving an escort a pass on maintaining an erection. If the escort has difficulty with a consistent erection, they shouldn't be in the business of prostitution (or at least not advertising their penis size or that they top)..

I respectfully disagree. These guys aren't machines. All kinds of things can haywire an erection even with ED drugs. Chemistry and attitude can play a big role on how successful a session goes and lets face it. Some people are just erection killers.