LaffingBear

Welcome to modern times. Devices have become so enmeshed in our lives, people have little regard for the time suck created. I am selling things online. And offering free stuff . Ebay, Letgo app, craigslist, Offerup app, sometimes my neighborhood Nextdoor. Furniture, new-with-tags clothing, etc. Id estimate 95% of the inquiries I get are thoughtless. They just inquire "is it available?" but dont even acknowledge my positive reply. Worse, people ask questions regarding details in the ad, assure me they want to purchase it. Ive even had people beg me... inundate me with messages "please please please hold it for me.. I cant pick it up before Tuesday" then never follow-up. In my work, I will often help clients recruit employees; its a similar experience. Candidates click apply on the job board apps with little thought. Im reviewing resumes, checking for skills, making calls... and when I reach the applicant, they dont recall the opportunity. They often have auto-apply set up in their profiles based on keywords... and the keyword might be a very generic term, or even a locale. I attribute the new, disrespectful communications norms to the age we live in, and the ever present devices. When people are texting and messaging all day... when apps have predetermined phrases as replies so that only one-click is required, we create a whole lotta worthless noise and, when it comes in a big wave, it can be irritating.

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I would find it awkward to ask specifically "will you be able.....?" But Id probably try making it about me, as in "I particularly enjoy......" At least that way, its a bit less of a challenge regarding what he CAN do Amazing the life circumstances when I apply the stuff I scoffed and yawned at during the dozens of management seminars I was forced to attend..... I'd like to send an anonymous text to everyone sitting in a seminar on communucations this week...."hey, dont laugh. I use these techniques when negotiating with hookers."

Contacted him a few months ago when he was in LA, added that SF was his next stop. He was responsive with me, both in RM messaging and texting. I came very close to setting an appointment. Saw a live twitter feed during same time... at Andrew Christian underwear photo shoots... that verified his RM ad pics were accurate for me Same timeframe: His was my first and only OnlyFans attempt, and I subscribed to find very VERY little content, few updates, followed by his complaint online that onlyfans wasnt paying him... so he was inactivating. There's a fine line for me.... not always rational. I know its about the money. But the onlyfans experience soured me, as too blatantly mercenary. So I never finalized an appointment.

LOL I have never done that. Its never even been an urge. I have been known to take a seat at a table, and notice a goodlooking guy at another nearby table. Might allow the eye candy to be an intermittent distraction. And my wishdar is generally on high receptivity when just walking around. But its never affected table or machine selection. Proof Im getting old... Walking around LV last week... 95° day I arrived... couldnt help musing how times have changed. While men dressed for attention in historic times, they dressed conservatively most of my life. I enjoyed guys obviously dressed and groomed for attention. Worked out and exhibiting the results. Openly comparing and commenting about clothes, physique, on the Strip. Maybe Im just a dirty-old-man, but it really felt like the guys were every bit as fashion-conscious and on-display as the women. I appreciated it.

Thanks... but that's not the info I wanted to ask about.

Anyone here know much about NV gaming ins and outs? Specifically DICE? If yes, I'll ask my question in a private, so as not to bore the 98% who would't be interested at all. Thanks

Now that is the stuff of what could be a very interesting thread.....

Mostly, I simply wasnt in the right frame of mind to hire. No one on RM appealed to me... a bad indicator given that there were plenty of choices. Previous LV visits, all 12+ years ago: My only agency experience was in LV. Bad. My wackiest experience ever... combining some elements that were my best rentguy ever, with awful planning, scheduling and a bizarre ending.... Vegas. Even non-rentguy meetups have gone badly for me in LV, compared to other cities. I'm not the least bit spiritual, but maybe it's written in the stars that I shouldn't rent from LV. One of the benefits of getting older.... I knew better than to do it. 10 years ago, I'd have let my crotch overrule my brain, and made bad decisions. I considered flying-in someone I know... I might do that next time.

I was on the strip. The guys I interpreted as likely rentguys were either in casinos or the many shopping centers lining the strip. Or out on the strip sidewalks. I went to no bars, not even in a casino. I cant say for certain anyone was a rentguy... no one approached me in person. But when you walk past a shredded guy and hear him say "three hundred" or "5'10, 170...." into his phone... given my experiences, there is higher likelihood....

I think there are many possible reasons. Prior responses include some. To add a darker view... There are predators out there. They recognize that the hiring community includes inexperienced guys. Guys terrified of exposure. Perhaps physically intimidated. And... its human nature for people to be polite, avoid offensive behavior, even when they're being treated badly. If no one ever got flummoxed, if no client ever paid for ripoff service or fakes arriving... theyd stop doing it. There is, apparently, an adequate supply of victims to make the scams financially worthwhile. Consider a parallel: EVERYONE knows to never give out personal data to phone inquiries... or that the IRS never telephones. Except... not really.... there are enough people falling prey to scams to justify the scammers' efforts. Add that with anything online... theres always potential for some societal moron who gets his jollies disrupting others' lives. Another parallel: theres nothing to be gained by many of the attacks on our computers... they simply disrupt so some pimply-faced dropout can giggle about it, living in his mom's basement. Id bet a few of the fake rentguy ads are placed by two 14 year old boys just goofing around.

I just returned from LV. Hiring depends on frame of mind... and I simply wasnt in the mood while there. I had reloaded Grindr, Scruff and other apps for the trip. Ive commented in other threads that Id never once been contacted via an app by a potential rentguy. Not so this time. It was actually encouraging to see the prevalence of gay guys around me on the strip. There were always 5-10 guys within 200 feet, and dozens within 1500 feet. Thats just app-users! (When Grindr reports a hot guy is 34 or 56 feet away from your hotel room.... gotta remember that gps doesnt report altitude. Nice to think theyre one door-down....but they could be sitting at a bar directly beneath your room down in the casino.) At least three-four guys contacted me nightly as escorts. Maybe its a vegas thing... maybe FOSTA... or.??? First ever contacts to buy drugs via app too. I wasnt in the market... had a few brief chats, but no other contacts. I also saw a few guys out and about that triggered my "rentguy-radar"... shredded, tanktops, trying to discretely converse on their phones, but I could hear them describing themselves, or even mention money. Maybe my "wishdar" Overall, it felt like LV wouldnt be too challenging to arrange a rentguy... even as the playing field changes

Its a good idea.. clear, informative thread titles. Might work in a very heavily moderated environment. As a general observation... regulating or standardizing anything online that involves human compliant behavior.... is futile.

I get those. But only from a fairly small percentage of the ads I view. And, since I dont visit any one rentguy's ad with any frequency, the volume of replies from those who follow-up is no bother or cause for concern.

I'm reminded of the advice of seasoned political neighborhood canvassers. To newbies. "The people who support our cause will tell you - quickly. The people who demonstrate significant interest, take up your time.... they support the opposition. They're intentionally wasting your time, to keep you from accomplishing your goals."

Our phones are not the problem when it comes to gadget addiction. (Good read) http://flip.it/DPE6xp

A little frustrating. A healthy sense of skepticism is a good thing. But the need to be ever-vigilant, or on-guard, has a cost. Hence the title of the thread.

I only went to Universe once. Only night of my life I slept in my car.

There are several potential triggers... could be any one of them. The inability to sleep through the night without getting up to take a leak First purchase of denture paste or powder Recognizing the need to trim nose and/or ear hair more frequently than hair on any other body part. Having joints that work better after a few hours' activity... or heat. Lunching with an old friend and realizing a good portion of conversation was about medical ailments. Increasingly frequent reactions to the world around you that can be categorized as judgements starting with "kids today....." Rising from a chair, hearing a groan, looking around, and realizing your father's nowhere near.

Ive never had a session then refused to pay for unsatisfactory services. I can remember complaining once... to no tangible benefit . But Ive arrived and found guys entirely unmatched to advertisements and departed without paying. And had a couple of appointments take a disgusting turn very early into the session, and left... once no payment, once minimal. Ive paid a little to end sessions quickly on my turf... once in my home, once in my car. I can't state I havent been nervous or afraid... but I have some internal control that refuses to actively participate in being scammed or victimized. So, there have been a few occasions when Ive insisted a bad egg leave my hotel room. Always at the beginning based on false ads. Took a breath, held my ground. Picked up phone and asked for security once - guy bolted. I'm admittedly bolder in a hotel room. I tried remembering all of my experiences shortly after joining the forum. Just a personal curiosity version of "what's your number? " As best I can recall, my rentguy number is under 40. 6-8 total fall somewhere in the unsatisfactory category. I think I paid full amount twice.

I have nothing helpful to add. But I will share a wry observation, triggered by the topic. Because it was patronized by an older crowd, Twin Peaks (famous as the first gay bar with windows in an era when such bars were dark, minimally advertised, often basements) in the San Francisco Castro neighborhood was known as "the glass coffin." Ive never been inside. Decades ago, I once told my buds, as we walked by..." if you ever see me in there... start planning my funeral." Still never been, but these days, I'm considering checking it out. The things 25-30 years can do to attitude and perspective .....

Well... maybe its the Surge app... or ??.. But its happened 3 more times since I created this post. I asked one guy directly.... and he said "they wanna catfish. Use fake profiles." Weird, he was sort of admitting.... although he wasnt claiming to be military. The tipoff is that he went from profile saying he was 15 miles away... to 2300 miles away, within 10 minutes. Apparently, they can manipulate reported location on Surge. I assume the request for my email is for ID theft initiation.

Tired of most of the Grindr and copycat apps... I'm trying one called Surge. Overall, I'm finding its much less about immediate hookups. But I'm experiencing one thing that makes me wonder. Most of the replies are locals. Looks: its an eye-of-beholder thing... but all across the range. Surge works by showing pics and profiles based on geography, and communication is possible only when both guys swipe-right and match. Lately, there are guys who are initially in my area in whom I indicate interest. They are younger, nice-looking, but not model-looks. Not the look we would associate with fake rentguys. Often have pics with children. They all eventually have profile changes indicating they're thousands of miles away. They say they're in the military, working through internet proxies because of military location-info restrictions. They want to come home to a relationship. Eventually, after some chat, they provide an email address and ask for mine, citing military restrictions on e*communications. My question: Is this a known scam? One I've just never heard or read about? Or something new? I haven't given and won't give my email contact. Im 99.9% certain they're not legit. Although it's disappointing to see military-service exploited, and to be presented with evidence that I'm so jaded that I won't believe some guys in military just want contact back home. Anyone know about this particular scam, of pretend military service to gain access to ?????

... watching.... also LV bound.

Tried finding it on video... cant. There was a great roleplay scene in WKRP In Cincinnati. All the guys try picking up Loni Anderson. Quotes Jennifer Elizabeth Marlowe : Hi guys! Andy Travis : Oh, what's your sign? Venus Flytrap : You live around here, mama? Johnny 'Dr. Fever' Caravella : Want a little action, sugar? Jennifer Elizabeth Marlowe : Well, Les, don't you have an opening line? Les Nessman : [Looks uneasy, then sits down and picks up a drink] Hi, I'm extremely wealthy. Jennifer Elizabeth Marlowe : Ooh.