matt842

I took the plunge and scheduled an appointment with Troy, and I am glad I did. Yes, some of his pictures are not recent, but he is still very handsome with a hot body, but what I really liked was his personality. I think that the following quote from @Capitano sums up my experience quite nicely!
 

It means he hasn't logged on in a while. Either he doesn't log in often, or he has another account that he checks more frequently.

Gronk would probably be a lot more fun to spend an hour with, too. I can imagine Brady being aloof. Then again, I wouldn't kick him out of bed either!

Gronk would probably be a lot more fun to spend an hour with, too. I can imagine Brady being aloof. Then again, I wouldn't kick him out of bed either!

Who wouldn't choose Rob Gronkowski over Tom Brady? Rob is so much hotter.
 
Myself, I definitely go for the everyday guys. Even when I watch porn I prefer them. The guys on porn sites like Corbin Fisher and Sean Cody are way too pretty and perfect looking for me.

Reading through so far, this thread says more about the person responding than the original topic. Very interesting.
 
There is room for 'regular' and 'model' types in this business... And both are perfectly capable of being great escorts

I got a massage from this guy years ago in San Diego. He was strictly theraputic and said a few body shaming things to me at the time. I was very nice and let them go but he was very arrogant and full of his own grandeur. I am also not a bad looking man but he hated guys that had any weight on them. It is interesting to see his developments after a few years. I think he is still very picky about who he sees. Not really a gay affirming man and should not be in this business.

Short answer: Yes. It is kinda unprofessional for him to express his frustrations to you and to cut short your session. Sounds like the guy had a bad day. It happens. The question you have to answer for yourself: was the (short) session you had good enough to give him a second chance??

This is a great question, @rvwnsd. There was no indication in our pre-session correspondence that things might go wrong. He was willing to be flexible in our meeting time based on my availability, and he seemed to be very accommodating.
 

Amen. I have to say that I can also see this from an escort's side. They also have to worry about violent clients, as well as members of law enforcement agencies trying to entrap them. This can be a very risky profession for them, too.

I’m sorry this happened to you. I sent you a PM. I went into a massage recently and had a similar experience. A lot of folks are commenting on what you should’ve done to prevent it from getting this far... I won’t share my experience since I don’t want the criticism but wanted to at least mention that I was in a similar situation... hopefully this isn’t weighing down on you a lot.

@rainyday, I'm sorry this situation happened. I hope you have someone you can speak with about it or some way to express your thoughts and feelings about it. Don't bottle it up and don't be too hard on yourself. You trusted this guy and he went way too far.
 
To all of you who complain rainy should've just "said no" or "stopped it," please stop. It sounds and feels like victim blaming and shaming.
 
Rainy just had an incredible massage from someone he thought he could trust. He was fully relaxed and had "massage brain." It's completely likely he was mentally "slowed" enough to not be fully engaged and he was also in a very vulnerable position with someone who was "in control" and possibly bigger and stronger. The masseur raped him. Period. Unless there was prior conversation about being topped and Rainy expressed consent, then the masseur raped him. There's no gray area here. The masseur failed in the most fundamental professional way: he assumed he knew what the client wanted and didn't confirm with the client before proceeding. There are many ways to easily & sexily gain consent. The masseur failed to communicate and also engaged in activity that was unsafe and dangerous. That's a clear violation of the power dynamic of the interaction.
 
Rainy, I hope you continue to be completely clean of all STDs and STIs. Given your prior comments, I'm sure you know the testing schedules and when "all clear signs" will happen for the potential infectious agents.
 
Lastly, as some of you may recall, I was drugged and essentially raped during my very first escort hiring experience. I had expressly said no to all drugs and insisted on condoms for safety while also clearly communicating that I was nervous and needed a slow and careful experience. The escort slipped a drug into my beer that resulted in my blacking out for 7 hours, during which time he fucked me at least once. I have no memories from the blacked out time and only know I was fucked because there was blood and pain when I regained consciousness. I bring all of this up, only to say, @rainyday, if you want someone to talk to that may have a similar cluster of thoughts and feelings, then please know you're welcome to privately message me.

The word 'no' does not have to be used for a rape to have occurred. For sex not to be rape the receptive partner must consent. That consent can be implied, but not simply assumed. The other person doesn't need to be psychic; he can ask!

That -- literally -- is what a rapist is.

Hi Matt,
Unlike others, I like to praise ur "stand ur ground" help u to avoid being robbed or worse..
 
There are too many signs added togetger.
- order wine (easy to slip something)
- offer drug(so u got knocked out str8)
- getting a 3rd one (probably his helper waiting outside)
- now plus want to get u outside, to ATM...(so the helper can jump u..)
 
Congratulation on dodging a bullets!! And being wise to say NO!!
 
Rhicks408

This is a very scary story.
I have had one or two scary escort incidents as well, imlcudng being physically assualted by a scam escort.
While we have many positive experiences, we must always remember that this can be a very risky hobby.
One escort away from tragedy perhaps...
 
That’s why this site is so valuable!

Apologies for being late to the party, but it’s been a weekend full of relaxing and unplugging. You mentioned, @matt842, that you have had successful hires in the past. Thinking back to your pre-playdate interactions with the escort, did he say anything that in hindsight could have tipped you off to potential bad behavior? You can’t unring this bell, but some reflection might help you when planning future encounters.

Once more, thank you to everyone who replied. Your comments and advice, along with writing the incident out and rereading it, have made this a learning experience for me. Specifically, I needed to keep track of time and confirm my expectation for how long the session would last once we met in person. Having a visible clock in the room would have helped, because I never looked at my phone during the session. This was my first truly bad experience with an escort, but I acknowledge that I could have taken steps that would have resulted in a different outcome.
 
I know that some of you still have difficulty understanding how someone can let four hours pass without realizing it, but I want to clarify something: I never thought or said I thought the session had only lasted an hour. I knew we had surely gone over an hour and that’s why I told him I wanted to finish up and get to sleep. I thought maybe it was midnight but was shocked to see it was after 2 a.m. I lose track of time easily, especially when talking to someone, and we did talk a lot. Still, a few days later, I have no idea how more than 4 hours passed so quickly, and I realize I should have taken more responsibility when it came to monitoring that.
 
Thanks again, everyone.

Once more, thank you to everyone who replied. Your comments and advice, along with writing the incident out and rereading it, have made this a learning experience for me. Specifically, I needed to keep track of time and confirm my expectation for how long the session would last once we met in person. Having a visible clock in the room would have helped, because I never looked at my phone during the session. This was my first truly bad experience with an escort, but I acknowledge that I could have taken steps that would have resulted in a different outcome.
 
I know that some of you still have difficulty understanding how someone can let four hours pass without realizing it, but I want to clarify something: I never thought or said I thought the session had only lasted an hour. I knew we had surely gone over an hour and that’s why I told him I wanted to finish up and get to sleep. I thought maybe it was midnight but was shocked to see it was after 2 a.m. I lose track of time easily, especially when talking to someone, and we did talk a lot. Still, a few days later, I have no idea how more than 4 hours passed so quickly, and I realize I should have taken more responsibility when it came to monitoring that.
 
Thanks again, everyone.

I agree, the dude is a scam artist, and don’t let those giving you doubt on how the time passed by get to you. It does happen and we are not all perfect. Glad you stood up for yourself. I’m a big dude and if they threaten me, I would say really? Might want to rethink that.

I'm shocked that some folks put the responsibility on you. It's pretty clear to me that there was no keeping him to an hour. He was there for a big payday and he was going to get it through any means, up to and including threats. If an escort wants to trick you and be deceptive to get more time out of you, then the breach of the contract was his. As far as going to the ATM, my lord....no telling what would have happened had you done that. You should count your personal safety on the fact that you didn't.
 
I, personally think that drugs are bad news and the folks that do them are bad news. If you're after learnings from this experience, I would consider reviewing your own standards as far as escorts who use drugs, and/or what your response will be in the future if drugs come up again. But that's me projecting my own concerns. Everyone reacts differently to PnP.

I understand what you’re saying. However, that would have involved going with him to an ATM, a risk I was not willing to take. If anything, I’ve learned to clearly state the length of session I want AND get the escort to confirm it. Then, we can negotiate a longer session before comes to something like this.
 
As for not being aware of how long the session went, between the requests to shower, the repeated efforts on his part to get me to join him at a sexclub or get a third to join us, his requests for wine, his attempts to get me to take his pills, talking about what HE would like to do, etc., yeah, the time did escape me. I know it might be tough to believe, but a few Heineken’s earlier that night and not having had a decent night’s sleep since I arrived, along with getting lost in the moment during the session can make that happen. I thought maybe it was almost midnight, but had no idea it was as late as it was.

Once more, thank you to everyone who replied. Your comments and advice, along with writing the incident out and rereading it, have made this a learning experience for me. Specifically, I needed to keep track of time and confirm my expectation for how long the session would last once we met in person. Having a visible clock in the room would have helped, because I never looked at my phone during the session. This was my first truly bad experience with an escort, but I acknowledge that I could have taken steps that would have resulted in a different outcome.
 
I know that some of you still have difficulty understanding how someone can let four hours pass without realizing it, but I want to clarify something: I never thought or said I thought the session had only lasted an hour. I knew we had surely gone over an hour and that’s why I told him I wanted to finish up and get to sleep. I thought maybe it was midnight but was shocked to see it was after 2 a.m. I lose track of time easily, especially when talking to someone, and we did talk a lot. Still, a few days later, I have no idea how more than 4 hours passed so quickly, and I realize I should have taken more responsibility when it came to monitoring that.
 
Thanks again, everyone.

The only "advice" I can add is if you call Hotel Security, make sure to put the call ON SPEAKERPHONE. I once called Hotel Security on a provider but didn't put the call on speakerphone. Hotel Security offered to call the Police for me but then the guy calmed down a little so I told them no and it's OK. After a few minutes, the MANIAC probably think I FAKED calling Hotel Security and started acting up again. When I call Hotel Security the second time, I was so shaken up I couldn't hold the phone to my ear and had to put the call on speaker phone, he realized Hotel Security was about to call the Police and finally left.
 
So PUT YOUR CALL ON SPEAKERPHONE so the CREEP can hear you're actually calling the authority! I mean it's maybe obvious to some but it never occured to me so I thought I'm adding my 2cents

The violent behavior is inexcusable, period
 
That said, there is shared responsibility to
- keep track of time
- discuss how will be handled if you go over time
- you did agree to an hourly rate
 
I doubt you have a legal issue here, even with the threats to call your wife and aggressive (though not violent) behavior.
Going to the police will surely put this "on the record" and possible in the public eye, which I assume you don't want?
 
I liken this experience getting mugged (which thankfully I never have but my apartment has been robbed) .... you feel completely violated and like someone kicked you in the gut.
 
I'd chalk this up to a naive mistake (on your part) and feel fortunate the guy did not get violent or call your wife.
 
We're tinkering at times with the underbelly here guys, do your homework and even then "shit can happen"
 
JC

matt842, at best you are one lucky guy. at worst you are an idiot....a guy 4 hours in your room!