Typical

Wow. Kind gestures combined with top makeup brands. How can we resist?  🤣. I can’t wait to have my makeup applied by Chuck!  

“Ale” is back with his fake ad and fake photos on Massuerfinder.  He is relentless.   And Masseurfinder can’t seem to stop him. 

On 4/24/2024 at 8:26 PM, d.anders said:

LOL. I managed to see it this time before it disappeared. Whoever the photos belong to, the guy is hot. But this here now/gone in 5 minutes, I've never seen anything like that before. What a waste of time and money.

The photos in the ad have absolutely no connection whatsoever to the person you will meet. None. 

14 hours ago, Lewis H said:

Don't know if you even need to bother posting a link, because it will likely be deleted before we get to it!

Yeah, the ad is gone again. He is staying one step ahead of the law! Beware. Masseurfinder is failing in its due diligence department. 

He’s back on the massage site. The photos are of someone else. Very, very sketchy. Avoid. 

His studio is a rental. The rental fee is incorporated into his charge. 

Scam. Avoid. 

We are being punked. Not sure if this is a goofy spa promotion attempt or just entertainment for some bored spa employees. Lol.  

22 minutes ago, Rand said:

Does he have any online presence? Any links?

There is no online presence. This is just typical self promotion by a spa operator. Nothing to see here. 

Nice guy, but very expensive for…not much. The $250 “sensual” option probably isn’t what you think it might be. For that, you apparently need to bring in the “partner” starting at $400. Also, his MF ad has a photo of a massage table in room that does not exist in his apartment. What is the point of that?  

The massage itself is amateur. No obvious training. Just some light pinching. 

On 2/25/2024 at 7:04 PM, pubic_assistance said:

Stay paranoid and assume everyone is riddled with disease.

THAT will prevent you from regretting thst you believed what a rent-boy told you about his STI status.

Haha. 
 

Go to your doctor. Get all advised shots. Use basic common sense and enjoy yourself. No one, or almost no one, offering massage or more is going to be honest about what communicable disease they may have. They aren’t going to say: “I have x, y and Z, guys - come and get it!”  Lol. 

And one last thought: You big tippers produce price pressures that will eventually bring about hyperinflation and destroy world order. So stop it!  

56 minutes ago, Lohengrin1979 said:

In response to your last paragraph, no, all of those work related expenses(overhead) should not warrant an automatic tip. As the sole proprietor of their enterprise, independent masseurs should be baking the cost of those expenses into their primary fee. Relying on tips to offset overhead is a recipe for disaster and not a client’s responsibility. We are paying for a product, not operations. I trust the masseurs I hire to charge a fee that allows them to operate their business and tip them if they’ve gone above and beyond the promised deliverable. As others have said though, to each their own.

Ha. Exactly.  When I buy bread I don’t think, gee, I should pay more because they had to build an oven. That implicit in the price. 

My doctor must rent an office and pay a staff. Should I tip him?  No: He charges for that in his fee. And so does your masseur. 

But, again, it’s your money. Give as much of it away as you like.   

Jason makes a bed massage work on so many levels. 

1 hour ago, MmM said:

Agree. Do what works for you. 

And that should be the final word on the topic. It’s your money. Use it as you wish. Is it a tip? Is it payment for extra service?  It’s what ever you want it to be!  Enjoy. 

5 hours ago, newdad said:

 

I think this goes back to the comment above by @OZP on whether the masseur and business owner are the same person. Traditionally in the USA, tips go to the waiters as their wages (sadly) and the business owners get the payment for food. Similarly for local masseurs who don't own their businesses, they get tips while their employers the the full payment for the massage. Now for those Masseurs on RentMasseurs or RentMen, that would be different because they're both the business owner and masseur. And if they're trying to provide bad service because you didn't tip them last time despite them getting the full advertised payment, I'd be happy to switch masseurs.

Right. The comparison to restaurant servers to justify tipping private masseurs is wrong. Waiters often get paid minimum wage by their employers because tipping is expected in the business model. And waiters aren’t getting a cut of the restaurant revenue. And waiters don’t set their own schedules. And waiters aren’t generally being paid $150-$200 an hour. It’s not a legitimate comparison.
 

If you “tip” because you get additional services or hope to get additional services in the future, that is a different matter. That’s less of a tip and more of a payment for the additional service!

Anyway, people should do with their money as they wish. It’s no one else’s business, but I believe most clients don’t tip private masseurs for the advertised service at the advertised price. 

Independent masseurs should ask the price they wish to be paid for the services rendered. If the services exceed the advertised labor, a “tip” may very well be warranted. If not, the advertised fee is sufficient. This approach has always worked very well for me. 
 

Let’s not play games. 

I believe MMX on West 14th Street specializes in this desire. 

It wouldn’t bother me at all. But if it diminishes your experience then by all means reschedule. You are spending your money and you should be totally comfortable with the situation.  

That’s called marketing. 😉

OMG. I just noticed he now charges $250 for his silly, bizarre and totally awful “service”. It’s like a prank!  To be clear, the photos are the best he has ever looked in his history. He’s not all that. Whatever….but he (if true to form) will sit you down like a child and go over the “rules” for 10 minutes (which is part of your “massage” time, BTW), and those rules include no touching him (no one who meets him will want to touch him, trust me) and that he does not want to touch or see your privates in any way shape or form (fine with me!) and that if you want to view his flabby belly from a distance it’s going to cost you (no thanks!). I can’t believe I stayed for that freak show. Live and learn. AVOID even if he is offering his “massage” for free. 

Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Unless you like to be lectured and quizzed before receiving a lousy “massage” on a hard mat. And this doesn’t even begin to cover all the oddities and idiocy experienced while visiting this guy. 

9 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Why would he do that? Why do your friends and family believe him? Why not think he just grabbed your pic of LinkedIn?

Why not just avoid the situation and not send a photo?  Why put your photo in a text exchange? It all seems harmless and low risk until it isn’t. 

It’s for screening. I wouldn’t participate in that or help start a trend. 
 

Next. 

Don’t send a deposit!