Typical

So many things wrong with this rationale but since this is a massage forum and not JAMA or NEJM I’ll just let this be.

Agree. It's definitely a "going down a rabbit hole" post.

So "term" it however you want. The point is one should't come from a COVID hot spot and break the law by not only ignoring a rational quarantine, but provide a relatively intimate (transmission likely) service in the process.

Sheriff is coming!

The word "provider" is weird.

I personally dislike the term carriers wrt this disease. It suggests someone who has a chronic contagious condition like tuberculosis or HepC. They carry around this disease unless treated for years and can infect anyone they come in contact with depending on the disease and nature of the contact. Someone with Covid19 infection can only “carry“ the active disease for a couple of weeks. Then the body naturally overcomes it (unless you die of course) and you are no longer infectious. At least that is what the science is telling us now. You don’t call someone who has the regular flu a carrier. But they are also infectious during the active disease stage. The term vector to me is more accurate wrt all these diseases I have mentioned.

Then let's just call them grossly negligent.

It's August and Florida is a COVID "hot spot". There are few visitors down there. They are moving to fertile economic ground.

But they are breaking the law in a very flagrant manner.

It's appalling and pretty stupid. Maybe they need a friendly quarantine reminder from the local sheriff.

Thanks for sharing this. The fact that he doesn't mention what he's into is a big red flag. He's obviously handsome, but if I'm expected to pay $160 an hour in Atlanta for an erotic massage, I'll want the whole package. Most of the time, I won't pay over $85 excluding tip without knowing that there's something deep and meaningful involved.

You are looking for love in all the wrong places.

The least sensual therepuetic massage I have probably ever had. Way overpriced. Misleading. Not enjoyable.

Curious - did you ask for a "sensual" experience? Aside from the price, his ad doesn't convey anything more than therapeutic to me. I've seen him for a 90 minute session and it was a good massage, particularly the leg work and excellent foot reflexology. He's a nice, chill guy and, in my opinion, cute AF. But I can understand the frustration if you were led to believe the experience would include HE or MT. In my experience it has not, but he has no qualms about draping for touching erogenous zones.

after a little snooping, found his FB page, appears to be real but I didn't partake because he got a little pissy with me when asked about Covid 19 precautions.

Just curious - what would you like him to say?

We should take precautions, but that probably excludes getting a massage. And you already know that.

So what answer is correct? That he took a COVID test, which was useful until the moment he came with 10 feet of another person? That he mindlessly Clorox wipes things down? (surfaces are not a likely spreader).

Seriously, what answer does one expect that is sensible? If you are asking the question you have already answered it.

Do you want an answer that makes you feel good about getting a massage? Or do you want truth?

He can't give you both.

Because you guys speak sometimes negative things even you never met them and they read it and they change because they don't want their business to slow down because of palmistry you do here. Those guys has many good reviews and some of them also has positive comments here.

Whuuuuut?

Good grief.... ?

I really don't think his offer of a HE warrants all that much concern. Seems like a normal offer in these circumstances. No big deal on that.

He sounds like a lost soul trying to sort out some internal conflicts. His ad has a bit of a kook vibe if you ask me.

I am only 90 seconds in and I can’t stop laughing!

Ha. It's like two 90 year olds trying to operate their new remote. By the time they figure it out Hee Haw is going to be over.

There is plenty of financial desperation right now. That is obviously very sad. But with that kind of desperation comes schemes like this.

Be wary of handing over your credit card information. And be very wary of putting personal information at risk. It can be used for a variety of nefarious purposes, including extortion.

You don't have to provide credit card numbers or booking fees or photos or personal information to book a massage!

Maybe I'm missing something, but why? Just use the site that doesn't require registration and a fee. I would never put my personal information into a database such as this. They want to check you against sex offender registrations?

Sounds bizarre to me.

Not surprised. The ad reeks fake.

Put thinking caps on.......

I think it's unwise to ever send your photo to a stranger under these circumstances.

Who knows why they want it or how they might use it.

And the idea they might want to screen their clients in this manner is obnoxious to say the least. When they pay me, I'll send them a picture.

OMG, sometimes you act like teenagers. The guy is handsome, provides the service with his hands, and maybe some other thing. I don't care about his abs.

Obviously HE thinks it matters or he wouldn't go through the effort of photoshopping his pictures! It's a weird thing to do.

He's the one who made an issue of his abs with the fake photo, not the guy who pointed out the deception in this forum.

You think he is "handsome"....okay, but does he look like the photo provided or did he alter that, too? Would you care about that since he isn't using his face to provide the service? I simply don't get your logic.

Why bother including photos at all if they are misleading? Have a text only ad if looks don't matter.

He should use real photos or he shouldn't post pictures at all.

Sweet Turkish guy with above average massage skills. Cute and sexy.

Confirm his table situation if that is important to you. I will repeat.

ugh. I remember seeing him about two years ago at his place (then) in Hells Kitchen. The squalid housing keeping mentioned above is one memory. The fact that he was very, very high on something is another. I recall nothing about the massage itself. The scene was just too weird.

It's an appointment I regretted making the moment I walked in and I should have left immediately.

Scratch conjures up the idea of an injury. So it may not be the best word. But I know exactly what the OP is after and I agree...I like it, too. Some guys intuitively know when to do it.

Wish I could recall someone to recommend.

I saw him and his boyfriend/ partner in Miami Beach a few months ago. He's real and is they guy in the ad. The message was nothing to write home about, but the rest was.

In other words, the reason to go is not the massage itself.

Yep. That about sums it up.

If you are really bored and want a cheap, mediocre rub down from a not interesting chatterbox, he's your guy!

It's been a couple of years since I've seen him, but my recollection is that it's a B- massage and that he talks way too much, most of it mindless babble.

On the plus side he's relatively cheap and he is always available!

To compare an offhanded 'joke' like "he needs some sandwiches" to the ridicule and mocking of gay men is absurd. At most it deserves a bemused shrug.

You may not think the joke is funny or clever or even sensible. But to elevate it to this level of criticism is PC run amok. This is where the goofy term 'snowflake' may actually resonate.

For goodness sake, he even labels himself a "twink" in his ad!

The New York State Attorney General's Office has become quite interested in non essential business operations during this time.

I think anyone openly flouting the rules at this point is taking a gamble: personal, societal and legal.

It can't be said enough. This is not about YOU. If you and a therapist want to take a risk yourselves, whatever.... The issue is the transmission of the virus that is inevitable with close personal contact (i.e., the unsuspecting roommate, spouse, or grocery store clerk you later pass it on to.)

The risk is also that when you perhaps get sick you might take up a hospital bed and expose medical personnel needlessly.

I realize people need their incomes. But so do waiters and movie theatre clerks and taxi drivers and airport staff and bartenders and hotel maids and personnel trainers, and the list goes on and on and on. No one is special at this moment.

People need to think about the bigger picture, not just their immediate needs.

Please do make such incendiary, accusatory remarks on this Forum. They are unwarranted, offensive, and completely inappropriate.

What does it even mean? It's just word salad.

Too much stis with these erotic guys . Its more Like a sex session and catch std

Whaaaaat?

They NYT analyzed the bill fairly comprehensively this morning.

To receive the payment, in addition to meeting maximum historical income tests, the recipient must have a valid U.S. Social Security number (not a fake card ginned up on the sidewalk, lol), and must have filed a U.S. tax return as recently as the 2018 tax year.