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If they count it before the session and pocket it, it means you're in for a lousy session. n=4, 1.0 correlation.

If they count it before the session and pocket it, it means you're in for a lousy session. n=4, 1.0 correlation.

If they count it before the session and pocket it, it means you're in for a lousy session. n=4, 1.0 correlation.

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I can take about $350 worth. 😉

My thoughts exactly, and the main reason I’ve only had two hookups in the last year (one escort, one via Grindr).  I have become increasingly terrified of STIs since the pandemic, and despite having never barebacked in my life (and barely fucked at all), I’m reluctant to start using condoms for oral.  And on top of things, I’m a makeout monster (can’t fathom having a hookup without heavy kissing), and back when I was hooking up with slightly more regularity, I would get strep throat at least once a year… lord knows what I would get now.

Dude I think you got the cause and effect mixed up there. 😄
I only reached out to one guy who ended up charging 500 an hour. He was a quicktalking, narcissistic, greedy bullsh!tter. Not a guy I'd spend 5 minutes with, let alone an hour.

I was in Amsterdam last year during its gay pride weekend.  I visited Boysclub 21, the local gay brothel, but the selection of boys for hire was limited.  The owner said that he gave most of his boys the weekend off to watch and enjoy the gay pride festivities, since most of the boys were from foreign countries and hadn't ever experienced Amsterdam gay pride.

If you're only measuring by escort donations, I guess Chicago is a "second-tier" city. Which is fine because we're always been the "Second City"....

A distinction is missing from this conversation: what one is willing to pay for the quality of an interaction. First, there are definitely escorts who command $500 or more an hour. Most of them don't advertise very often and work based on referrals. The reasons they can command that price are probably a combination of looks, personality, niche services, and—most of all—real discretion. 
Second, there is a pool of younger guys who look great, have OnlyFans/do porn, and want to charge $500 or more an hour but are not worth the price, in my opinion, because they're rarely actually good at sex,  connection, etc. I don't fuck with these guys but many do, and that's fine. 
Then there are the guys we tend to hire who are older (35-55 range), have made this their career (or long-time side hustle), genuinely enjoy sex in many forms, get off on providing pleasure rather than receiving it, like meeting new people, forming ongoing (business) relationships with their clients, and tend to be in the $300-$400 an hour range. 
It's a market with varying price points, and people should pay what they're comfortable with. 

right - because I’ve lived here for years, I’m not stupid & understand there is no need to overpay for same services that can be had for less
advice to people visiting nyc - pick your top 5 and compare rates & availability. $300-$350 is the going one hour rate.  It should be less per hour if booking multiples. Look for providers that have lived in ny for years, not the visiting providers or new arrivals. If quoted more than $350, buyer beware. If they ask for Uber after the negotiations are finalized, cancel & move on to the next. There are many options & you don’t need to overpay. Dont pay a deposit & tip only for superior service.  if you can avoid letting the provider know you’re a tourist, that’s advisable
*if you’re a celebrity, politician or member of the 1% - disregard 

this is true.  and nyc is the most expensive city in the world in 2023.  
my experience is people that live here are generally savvy consumers who suss out the value vs wildly overpriced goods & services
the point is that some of the provider rates being tossed around here aren’t realistic & are not typical.  a very few may pay those high rates and they’re probably tourists. 
someone was using the term “premium” providers - there’s no such thing.
just some w overly inflated egos living in a fantasy world. nobody is getting $500hr on a routine basis.  not happening 
just got a quote from a known & well reviewed provider today - $300 & no Uber.  

You can’t even qualify for a 1 bed apt in manhattan for less than about 150k, most of these escorts live in midtown where the rent is at least 4K + a month. 

Only if you hire the wrong guy!

Did you adjust that for 50 years of inflation 😄
 
EDIT: Awww @Charlie just yanking your chain.

If you want someone who speaks the language of love in an understandable way, try an English speaker.

The UN and US say escorting is unskilled labor .
The highest hourly legal minimum wage, I think, is $20 in California somewhere. 
Interesting comparison. 

The UN and US say escorting is unskilled labor .
The highest hourly legal minimum wage, I think, is $20 in California somewhere. 
Interesting comparison. 

Consider this: Both gay escorts and fast food workers get paid to stuff meat into a bun.  😜

The UN and US say escorting is unskilled labor .
The highest hourly legal minimum wage, I think, is $20 in California somewhere. 
Interesting comparison. 

you’ve got it backwards - in NY, people with real money think others have the privilege of working with them.  It’s discounted tickets to shows, games, private gallery openings, discounts in stores & reservations nobody can get -  if you’re connected.  they all know how to cultivate their best clients & keep them coming back. the rich don’t get rich by paying market rates.
 

 

if we’re talking about hourly rates in NYC, this is the fallacy - the elite don’t pay top rate for anything.  those prices are for American tourists visiting NY. Europeans certainly won’t pay those rates either.  
price has no guarantee of quality in provider context & certainly doesn’t signal an “elite” experience. and yes, providers can charge whatever they want and clients can overpay too.  it’s just not necessary.  it’s all smoke & mirrors 

New York is an expensive city by any measure.  But, expensive doesn’t equal value or good quality.  It’s also insanely overpriced for certain things targeted for tourists.  nobody living in NY since before 2019 is paying $500 hour because they either know providers from before & have a rate, or they know when/how to look.
the best strategy is daytime weekday hires when demand is lower & guys prefer working.  and don’t fall for paying for Ubers - if the guy hasn’t figured out public transportation, then there’s a lot of other things they haven’t figured out either
lots of these high rates are quoted by guys that don’t live here & passing through, thinking it’s unlimited money. when those same guys are in Europe, they’re quoting half of the rate, if that.  and most clients in Europe aren’t tipping either 
hint - don’t ever try to do things when everyone else wants to do that same thing bc then you will pay.  so, don’t come for ny Pride & think you’ll get reasonable rates for providers.  
and if the price quoted is too high, just say no thank you & move on - someone else will be reasonable at a non-peak time.  
$300/350 is really the most I’d pay for an hour in ny & that would be someone established & reviewed, not an unknown. for 2 hours, I’d expect less per hr

This is where I live.