BtmBearDad

Personally, I don’t understand people who continue to work well past retirement. Unless there’s a financial necessity, I can’t see a reason to continue working if you don’t have to. If you need something to fill your days, there are plenty of volunteer opportunities. I know in corporate settings, it can be painful dealing with someone in their 70’s who is not open to change/innovation, and in fairness, is usually just not up to it anymore. Just look at our politicians - 30% of the population is 55+, yet 70% of congress is 55+ -and half of them are over 65. There is no reason beyond the power of incumbency for having politicians (I’m including judges) in their 70’s, 80’s, 90’s holding office. Same for the private sector. As for me - I had planned to be retired at 52, but the two years before Covid, and the year and a half with Covid, saw a lot of deaths, medical issues, family issues that had to be sorted/are being sorted. My new goal retirement age is 55 - about 4 years away. If I could go now, or earlier, believe me I will. Life is too hard, and too short as it is, why spend anymore time than is necessary working?

It’s quite slow today work wise, thank you bank holiday Monday, so my mind has been wandering as I read through some forum posts. I wanted to ask if I was the only one who did either/both of the following: 1.) does anyone else assign voices to different members, so when you read their posts it’s in the voice you imagine they have? 2.) does anyone else develop a picture in your head of what members look like*? Just curious if I’m the odd man out on either/both of these, or if anyone else does it ? BBD * = this would obviously not include those members who use their own pics as their avatar - that’s another topic for some discussion ?

Me too!! lol ??????

You’re probably right - his second pic just had me thinking “didn’t he used to show his face”? Who knows! Maybe I saw it somewhere else ??‍♂️

Great choices, @Dwalker! The first link didn’t work for me - does he have an ad? Just curious, is it just me or didn’t Dino used to have face pics with his public pics? ?

It can come off as dismissive, bordering on insulting depending on how it’s used, the context. Wasn’t there at one point a website for providers using “scort” in the name?

That is a hot vid! Love that he’s caged up. He’s definitely a hot bottom boy. The top - “FitnessPapi”- would be more my speed, wonder if he’s a working gent too?

Damn he’s a cutie! That smile, those eyes! I’m also interested in any feedback on this one ??

Damn! I’m well jealous! Mike Buffalari ?

It’s been a few years, but I found Fabian to be quite enjoyable ? https://rentmen.eu/Musclefabian As an aside, if you do get together with HungMusclJock, I’d be very interested in your feedback.

Yes! Thank you, @kingsley88 - I believe they are the same gent. Universal negative feedback, so despite his looks, it’s a pass.

Did he used to have a pic of him sitting on the edge of a big truck?? ?

Yes - I’m recalling the Turkish but too. Just can’t recall the actual name ??‍♂️

I’m sure this gent advertised under another name(s) in the past. I want to say he did not have good reviews, but cannot recall his other name(s) to search. Anyone have any intel? https://rentmen.eu/Flaviojoseph

Congratulations to you, @Smurof on embarking on this new fitness program!! ?? Covid has not been kind to either my waistline or my motivation to do something about it, so I applaud you ?? As far as kid athletics today - it is an entirely different concept from what I experienced in my teens (the 80’s). I’ve played rugby since I was 12, and of course there was training, conditioning, etc., but it was nothing like what kids are doing now. I can look back on my memories, and at pictures from then thru college, and yes we were big, muscley, beefy ruggers - but we weren’t cut, ripped, 6-pack guys at all. When I was playing in a recreational league after college, you would notice the new, younger guys joining were 9 times out of 10 cut, jacked, guys. One of the older ruggers, tho he was probably younger than I am now, would joke it was because of all the hormones in milk, chicken, beef. ? I agree with everything @HotWhiteThirties said, too. I know from my nieces, nephews, godchildren in addition to what HWT said, athletic prowess means scholarship money. Much more, and much more diverse, than what I remember. None have gotten full rides, but given tuition costs, every bit helps. I am a firm believer, and supporter, of youth sports. I’ve volunteered, and coached, and supported teams with the old checkbook too. They teach discipline, responsibility, sportsmanship, and it’s FUN!! I suppose part of me just worries all this takes away the fun, because that’s what it should be about.

I have friends like that too! Thru the years, we’d have “guess what I did last night...” conversations all the time. There are still a few of us who continue these conversations ?

Thanks for sharing all these stories, gents!! Nice to know I’m not the only tramp whilst traveling! ? Here are my offerings - the first, and the most recent. Only the names have been changed to protect the not so innocent: 1.) Cambridge MA circa 1993 - my team traveled to a college rugby tournament over Columbus Day weekend. I was already playing with guys, but it was a “secret” to everyone, especially my teammates except for the two guys I had played with on the team. I had been hoping I’d room with one of them, but that was not to be. Anyway fast forward, after two days of playing, and more importantly viewing all sorts in the locker room and shower, this rugger was horny. The Sunday night, the host rugby team had a party at their house. It was as you imagine - lots of drink, lots of dirty rugby songs, lots of dares, etc.. I got chatting with another rugger who was also from NYC. Mind you, at the time I was a nice bit of stuff - 6’2” hairy, with a nice thick muscley rugby jock build. The guy I was chatting with was similar in stature - about 6’ with a thick muscley rugby build. He was also a ginger - and the first ginger I had seen who was also quite hairy. We chat, there’s definitely a vibe, and knowing looks, and finally subtle touching and gropes that made it clear we were on the same page. He suggests going back to his hotel room for a drink, I ask about his roommate, he smiles and says he has a single. There was no uber back then, and I hadn’t a notion where we were (we had taken cabs from our hotel), but Ginger knew the way so after about 20-30 minutes walking, talking, I found myself slammed against his hotel room wall as we began making out, feeling each other up. Clothes scattered as we made our way to his bed all the while kissing, feeling, touching. I loved his hairy ginger body, and he had a great thick cock on him. He seemed to like what I was offering too. We’re both horny animals - making out, sucking nipples, make out some more, licking pits, more make out, 69’g, make out, eating ass, make out, giving each other handy j’s as we make out. Then his hand is playing with my balls, then his fingers are going further south, then he says “I want to be in you” just as his fingertips are playing in my furry trench. ? My mind was going 500mph at this point. That was my other secret - I really wanted to bottom, but had not at this point, yet here I was with this hot hairy ginger rugger who wanted to top me. His fingers felt good teasing me back there, he was kissing my neck, kissing my ear telling me how hot he thought I was, how hard I made him, pointing out how much I was leaking, but damn it all to hell, I just couldn’t say yes! ? He was entirely cool with that, if disappointed, but we managed to get two nuts each without anal that night. I remember the bus ride back on Monday, most were hungover, but I was both cursing myself, and congratulating myself for saying no. It was about 3 weeks later I finally gave it up to the hockey jock, which made me think why did I ever say no to the ginger rugger??? Fast forward about 6 years, I’m playing in a recreational rugby league in NYC, and who do I meet at a match? Ginger rugger! Or more properly, now he’s Dr Ginger Rugger. Needless to say, I didn’t say no that time, or any of the subsequent times we got together. He’s still hot even today - but now we’re both more bear than jock. He’s married, but even so, I’d take a ride on Dr Ginger Rugger anytime - hell, his husband is cute enough so he could join too! ? 2.) Dublin, Ireland 2019 - I had to go to Ireland for a family wedding down the country. It was a bit of a posh wedding - my family had rented the entire hotel (a great historic country hotel) so you only ever saw family and wedding guests for the weekend. Anyway, after spending a week and a half down the country, I was ready for some “me time”. Knowing this would be the case, I had booked myself into a hotel on the quays in Dublin, so up on the train I went. After checking in, I just wanted to wander around, see what had changed, get my bearings - normal things when you find yourself in a city you haven’t been to in a while. Hand to God, I’m walking past Trinity making my way to Dawson Street, and I hear my name shouted, I turn and see smiling and waving across the road a fellow I knew in NYC. He had been a bartender in the local near the office, but had returned to Ireland about 5 years prior. I was shocked, but delighted! He came across the road, and after hellos, we made our way to the pub I was heading for on Dawson Street. We catch up over a few pints - since returning to Ireland, he completed his Masters, was a partner in a boutique accounting firm, bought a house on the Southside - so life was good for him. And yes, he still looked very good! I will confess, I had a bit of a crush on him as my bartender. Picture a 5’9” Tim Tebow lookalike, and there you have it - though he was hairier than Tim. Anyway, sitting next to me in his suit, he was looking dishy to say the least. He couldn’t do anything that night, but promised to meet me at my hotel the next night for a night out. We met at the hotel bar, he looked great in his casual/going out gear. A few drinks there, he says he took the following day off so we could have a proper night, and we were off. A bit of a pub crawl, and many pints later, back at the hotel having drinks in the residents lounge, and he suggests we take the drinks to my room. We do - I’m not thinking anything is in the cards honestly, just a more relaxing atmosphere. Plus my room had a terrace he wanted to see. We’re still just catching up, talking about who we knew back in the day, what they’re up to now, our lives, normal BS. We’re both on the terrace smoking, and I feel his hand on my ass ? and he squeezed he said “you always had a great arse, I bet it’s hairy like your chest too, right?” The little voice in my head is screaming “OMG THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING!!” Before I could reply, he says, “come inside and show me”. We come inside, he hugs me to him, I can feel his erect cock thru his pants, he tells me I’ve gotten better with age, how he always loved how furry my chest was, and tonight he was going to find out just how furry the rest of me was - and he did. God he was a powerful ride. Very skilled, and had tremendous stamina. This then 49yo was very proud to have orgasmed 4 times with him in our session. Obviously he stayed the night - more properly morning by the time he shot his last. We woke up around noon, had a session, ordered room service, had another session, then he had to take off as he was heading to Belfast the next day for work. I did get some local talent the next two nights out on my own, but they’re another story - or two. I was able to get together with my mate my last night for another sleepover - and he drove me to the airport the next day. If not for the damn rona I would have been back for some more. We are in regular contact - nearly every day - and we’re both looking forward to the end of all the travel restrictions ??

I’m no Anderson Cooper, but I first started going grey/silver when I was 16 ? It was a good mix of silver and blond thru my 30’s and most of my 40’s. Now though, at 50, it’s majority silver - but my beard is still blond with some silver, and my mustache still all blond. Ah well! At least it’s still on my head! ?

He was indeed!! He still looks fantastic - no sign of a BF but whoever lands him is going to be one lucky, and happy fellow!

You are correct, the overwhelming majority of Arab men are circumcised as a result of being Muslim. A small percentage of Arabs are uncircumcised as they are not Muslim. I have known both. There was a piece in the British press a few years ago about how with more mixed marriages, and with more Muslims becoming/living a secular/culturally Muslim life, it was becoming more important to “fit in” vs adhering to being circumcised. This gent is quite hot, ticks all my boxes, but part of me wonders if he really is Arab, or if it’s a marketing thing. He brings to mind how porn companies in the past used to use Latin performers, and pass them off as Arab. ? At the end of the day though, I’m really not concerned with a gent’s religion - especially one that looks as good as him. ? Very common! It’s viewed as “haram” or forbidden to shave their beards. Even with non-Muslims, it’s a cultural thing with the majority. His listed RM age of 30, probably means he’s closer to 35 - the silver may make him look older to some ??‍♂️

I agree 100% on that. Much easier to filter a search. Tho I will admit for certain none anal activities, when I first started using SB years ago, the whole “give” and “receive” did cause a moment’s confusion lol

I concur - that there is a certain (purposeful?) level of ambiguity, and that the pre-booking conversation is key. I’ve seen posts where clients complain nothing/not enough is ticked; I’ve also seen posts where the complaints are everything/too much is ticked. To me, if everything else still retains one’s interest, that’s where there pre-booking conversation really matters in nailing down specifics/expectations. As I’ve said, I’ve never had misses in terms of activities to be expected - my misses have normally been about chemistry, feeling it’s “a fit” more than anything else. I created the thread as I was just curious how much weight others give to the “into” when deciding, and whether or not I was potentially missing something. I think that can be tricky. I know two well reviewed providers who do not drink, smoke, or otherwise indulge, yet they either check PNP or have something like “you can party, but I don’t” in their text. Again, it’s the individual call of the hobbyist, but that wouldn’t be an automatic red card for me depending on the pre-booking conversation.

Gents, Just curious about how much attention you give to what a provider ticks off under his “Into” on his profile. When weighed with whatever text is given, some read like what the provider likes, while others can read like how the provider sees himself. For example, does ticking off “daddy” mean the provider sees himself as one, or likes daddies? Same with “smoking” - does he smoke? Tolerant of clients who smoke? Or does this mean cigar play? Or how about how they, the provider, define certain “intos” they tick off - I see some describe themselves as a “bear” in their text, yet they’re just hairy. So do they consider a bear as someone who is just hairy, not the usual gay-finition of bear. When I reach out to a gent, I’m upfront about me physically, and what I’m lookin for, and usually refer them to my RM profile. So far, no misses, but I’m wondering if I’m viewing the “Into” correctly as a search option ? Any input is always appreciated! Thanks! BBD

I agree with everything that has been said here. In my own experience it wasn’t something I took to automatically, and with fervor. Rather, it was more of an evolution - both physically and mentally. When I first started playing with guys, I swore up and down that I would *never* bottom. Not because I wasn’t curious (that was my secret), but I think because I was all caught up in the whole tops are the “guys”, and bottoms are the “girls” BS. Stupid I know. But to me at that time -the big, hairy, rugby jock- it made sense. In reality it just gave me an excuse to not dip my toe in those bottoming waters regardless of how much I wanted to. The first time I did give in, and give it up, it was to another jock (hockey) which I think helped me to think it was ok. But, what freaked me out was I liked it - I mean *really* liked it. So much so, I didn’t go back down that path again until I was in my late 20’s when a FWB flipped the script on me, and there I was in bliss again. After that, it became a “secret”- I dated guys as a top, but hooked up or engaged gents as a bottom. I was about 32 when I finally gave up the ghost, and just accepted my preferred role. Have I topped since? Absolutely - but those times have been organic, in the moment times - nothing was ever planned. As others have said, much MUCH of you enjoying being a bottom has to do with the skill of your top. If your top doesn’t know how to captain his ship, it probably won’t be enjoyable. Skill, size, patience all come into play literally when you’re a bottom. There is also a mental aspect - getting over whatever preconceived notions you may in your head about what it may mean to be a bottom. Some of that can be countered by playing back there on your own - fingers, toys, massagers. But to really get past those mental notions, you will need the real thing. Who knows? Maybe you’ll try it, (I’d recommend a few times), and realise bottoming really isn’t for you - the fantasy is better than the reality. That’s great too. I know a few friends who have tried the bottom role, but don’t enjoy it at all. Same way, I have other friends that don’t get any pleasure from topping. There’s a lid for every pot, and all that. When you do decide to bottom, just remember three golden rules: 1. Cleanliness is next to godliness 2. Slow and steady wins the race 3. Lube (and more lube) is your best friend Good luck to you, @nycboi! Let us know how it goes, and if a provider, who you’re considering ?

I haven’t fallen in love with any of the gents I’ve engaged, but I have become very fond, and very comfortable with a few thru the years. We socialise, speak over phone and text, been to each other’s homes - all off the clock. Two of the gents are a couple, and are retired from this vocation, the others are still active. I will say, I think it can be easy to fall for or think you have fallen for a gent. Especially if they are skilled in their vocation. Have I ever found myself laying there after they’ve left, letting my mind wander to all sorts of scenarios where it’s he and I as a proper couple? Sure. But then I catch myself, shake my head, laugh, and roll over. I believe there are a few fellow hobbyists on this board that have stated they are in intimate, romantic relationships with gents they originally engaged, so it does happen. Hopefully they’ll contribute their two cents here. As far as your gent not replying - that may be down to a variety of factors -> he may be in a relationship already, what you wrote may have given him pause, especially if it was your first booking with him, he may have no interest in anything beyond the transactional with any hobbyist, etc..